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Trigeminal Neuralgia

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 13, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Has anyone suffered from trigeminal neuralgia and seen a difference in lessening of pain or elimination of it with a paleo diet? And if so, what "type" of paleo...dairy, no dairy, etc.

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on February 16, 2013
at 12:24 PM

Robb Wolf's autoimmune protocol is also the first thing that came to my mind. And it will take time. Lots of time.

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on September 16, 2011
at 07:00 PM

Dr. K. is such a great asset to the community. What dosage are we talking about here for K2?

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on September 14, 2011
at 01:59 PM

Cool. I will have to read more about this.

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on September 14, 2011
at 02:24 AM

The artery is not often enlarged......they are always calcified.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on September 14, 2011
at 02:24 AM

in all my years of opening up the CP angle for this condition I have never seen a patient with Tic not have calicification. The interesting part is about ten yrs ago I did a tic case and found the fifth nerve to be split by a aberant vein running thru the nerve. I bipolared the vessel and got rid of it and once it was taken down a branch of the AICA artery fell on top of the nerve from below and it was also calcified. I place a sponge in between the nerve and AICA branch because I was concerned about what might happen. I also added K2 to his post op routine. He had no reoccurance of pain

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on September 14, 2011
at 01:32 AM

Interesting. Do you know offhand what rough proportion of cases are due to calcification? Do cases of an enlarged artery go together with calcification?

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on September 14, 2011
at 12:37 AM

http://jackkruse.com/what-is-peripheral-neuropathy/ Tell him to add these things and I bet it comes back quicker!

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on September 13, 2011
at 11:49 PM

Wow after I looked this up, I realized this isn't what I thought it was. I'm sorry you're in so much pain and I hope you find some relief!

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on September 13, 2011
at 11:38 PM

Find a experienced nueromuscular therapist. They can "fix" it in just a few sessions doing the TMJ routine.

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on September 13, 2011
at 10:22 PM

Thank you Kamal, I would certainly be interested in seeing your website when you get it up...all input is definetly welcome. I will check on the elimination diet, thanks.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on September 14, 2011
at 12:35 AM

I put all my tic patients on high dose K2. The main cause of tic is compression of the fifth cranial nerve by the superior. Cerebellar artery that usually is calcified. As the heart beats the movement is transmitted to the vessels recoil and it hits the nerve and causes a short circuit activity. Epiphatic nerve damage. The k2 decreases the calcification after six months. I also optimized D when doing this because it works quicker

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on September 14, 2011
at 01:59 PM

Cool. I will have to read more about this.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 14, 2011
at 01:32 AM

Interesting. Do you know offhand what rough proportion of cases are due to calcification? Do cases of an enlarged artery go together with calcification?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on September 14, 2011
at 02:24 AM

in all my years of opening up the CP angle for this condition I have never seen a patient with Tic not have calicification. The interesting part is about ten yrs ago I did a tic case and found the fifth nerve to be split by a aberant vein running thru the nerve. I bipolared the vessel and got rid of it and once it was taken down a branch of the AICA artery fell on top of the nerve from below and it was also calcified. I place a sponge in between the nerve and AICA branch because I was concerned about what might happen. I also added K2 to his post op routine. He had no reoccurance of pain

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on September 14, 2011
at 02:24 AM

The artery is not often enlarged......they are always calcified.

Medium avatar

(39821)

on September 16, 2011
at 07:00 PM

Dr. K. is such a great asset to the community. What dosage are we talking about here for K2?

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21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on September 13, 2011
at 10:16 PM

Agh! I feel for you, Karin. I don't have trigeminal neuralgia, but I do run the Boston Chronic Pain Meetup group, and see lots of different stuff.

Have you considered an elimination diet? Close to Robb Wolf's autoimmune protocol, that is.

In addition, I am developing a website, not to be self-promoted here, that addresses non-surgical treatments for different chronic pain issues. It'll go up...sometime?

A65499f2f8c65602881550fe309cd48c

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on September 13, 2011
at 10:22 PM

Thank you Kamal, I would certainly be interested in seeing your website when you get it up...all input is definetly welcome. I will check on the elimination diet, thanks.

A402a961303d312055dc0b253f29deac

(320)

on February 16, 2013
at 12:24 PM

Robb Wolf's autoimmune protocol is also the first thing that came to my mind. And it will take time. Lots of time.

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on September 16, 2011
at 06:43 PM

My ATN (or something) actually started after I went Paleo and lost most of the weight. I've had pain over a year and a half, and I've been on K2 most of that time (D3, Mg too). Obviously, I the diet (and K2) are good things to do in themselves, but these things at best moderate my pain. I noticed the last time I got exposed to wheat things got worse. I also noticed kelp makes it pretty bad for some strange reason.
What is really frustrating is that doctors tend to assume nutritional deficiency after they hear you've lost 113 lbs.

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on February 16, 2013
at 04:34 AM

to the with the fiance who is 42 and diabetic can you please tell me the eating plan he/she did as I have the same and trigeminal nueralgia to trow it in the mix with the pain.

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on September 13, 2011
at 10:54 PM

My fiance is 42 was type 2 diabetic and in chronic pain. Popped Alleve like candy. Also was on at least 5 prescription meds. He went paleo but with limited dairy and lost 50 lbs, all the meds, and is no longer in pain nor does he suffer from diabetes any longer. He has neuropathy in his feet but they don't bother him anymore and he is slowly regaining feeling after nearly 2 yrs.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on September 14, 2011
at 12:37 AM

http://jackkruse.com/what-is-peripheral-neuropathy/ Tell him to add these things and I bet it comes back quicker!

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