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FODMAPS, autoimmune protocol, and zero starch...what's left to eat?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 06, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Currently I am eating the following:

meats (everything except chicken--allergy), bok choy, carrots, chives/green onion (tops only), olive oil, coconut oil, spaghetti squash (I might tolerate this...waiting to see), lettuce, berries (strawberry, blueberry, raspberry, blackberry), carrot juice, green tea

That's all I can stomach at the moment (otherwise, I trigger ankylosing spondylitis autoimmune condition and GI symptoms). No broth since that includes lots of onions. Anyone else been in these shoes? If so, I'd love to know what other foods I might be able to add since I'm currently 5'11" and down to 110 lbs (again). :(

Thanks!

E12ead3bf63c94b5b619b03722ef554f

on May 07, 2012
at 07:55 AM

Have you considered making homemade bone broth WITHOUT onions? Use the veggies you tolerate if you like, but you really need to get the gut-healing compounds found in bone broth to get better.

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on May 07, 2012
at 02:37 AM

My suggestion, and this is extremely well thought out and completely serious. Go a 3 months eating nothing but grass fed beef and see how you feel. You can eat 3x a day for a month and not have the same meal twice, however, I suggest eating 2x a day and most certainly having the same meal at least 2x. Any chance your doc can give you 12 weeks of moxi ???

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on May 07, 2012
at 12:16 AM

Yes, "until your condition gets better." Unfortunately, I've been struggling for an entire year this way. Getting exhausted...and just want to increase food soon.

B1076248dde479773e75044818e1878c

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on May 07, 2012
at 12:16 AM

Meats are all fine!

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on May 07, 2012
at 12:05 AM

I agree. I never make broth with onions, just carrots, celery and a small bunch of thyme and it's perfectly tasty.

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on May 06, 2012
at 10:42 PM

yikes. You can eat beef though still, right?

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on May 06, 2012
at 10:15 PM

...but since you are eating carrots, I would make my own and add carrots for the last few hours of simmering. The carrots can be pulled out and eaten too. Can you handle celery? If I had to make bone broth without onions, I would definitely use a couple stalks of celery. The broth might help with the gut healing, and would open up the "soup" category for you... even if it's just beef and carrot soup in beef and carrot broth. Bok choy is good in soup too. :)

B1076248dde479773e75044818e1878c

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on May 06, 2012
at 10:04 PM

No broccoli...causes gastro bloating and pressure. :(

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on May 06, 2012
at 10:03 PM

Zero starch for spondylitis. For some reason, starch triggers spinal arthritis symptoms. This may be due to "feeding" a type of bacteria in our gut that is triggering autoimmune (still being debated).

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Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

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on May 06, 2012
at 09:14 PM

Informationally, you can make broths with no onions at all -- in fact, with no SEASONINGS at all -- just bones simmered in water. You can season as you can tolerate, but no reason to eschew broths just to avoid onions.

07c86972a3bea0b0dc17752e9d2f5642

(3162)

on May 07, 2012
at 12:05 AM

I agree. I never make broth with onions, just carrots, celery and a small bunch of thyme and it's perfectly tasty.

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(1614)

on May 06, 2012
at 10:15 PM

...but since you are eating carrots, I would make my own and add carrots for the last few hours of simmering. The carrots can be pulled out and eaten too. Can you handle celery? If I had to make bone broth without onions, I would definitely use a couple stalks of celery. The broth might help with the gut healing, and would open up the "soup" category for you... even if it's just beef and carrot soup in beef and carrot broth. Bok choy is good in soup too. :)

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E12ead3bf63c94b5b619b03722ef554f

on May 07, 2012
at 08:00 AM

I was on a very restrictive diet for a few months (similar to yours as you can see on my blog). By using homemade bone broth and controlling my symptoms for a few months, I was able to increase my food tolerance. I could barely eat 1/2 cup of only a few specific vegetables at first. NOw I can eat almost any vegetables in larger amounts!

Healing takes time, but I really encourage you to do homemade bone broth. Probiotics and fermented cod liver oil could also help.

In the meantime, try increasing your calorie intake by adding safe fats. You should tolerate them fine if you introduce them gradually. Your best options are coconut oil, ghee (and eventually butter if you tolerate it well), olive oil, avocado oil and homemade mayonnaise made with these healthy fats. Add lots of these fats each time your eat to get enough calories and put on some weight. ;)

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on May 06, 2012
at 10:16 PM

You're not actually supposed to stay on a restrictive autoimmune/anti-allergenic diet for the rest of your life. Only until your condition gets better and your body can tolerate those foods in small amounts.

B1076248dde479773e75044818e1878c

(458)

on May 07, 2012
at 12:16 AM

Yes, "until your condition gets better." Unfortunately, I've been struggling for an entire year this way. Getting exhausted...and just want to increase food soon.

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on May 06, 2012
at 09:47 PM

Is grass fed ground beef and broccoli still on the menu? I could eat that forever!

B1076248dde479773e75044818e1878c

(458)

on May 06, 2012
at 10:04 PM

No broccoli...causes gastro bloating and pressure. :(

B1076248dde479773e75044818e1878c

(458)

on May 07, 2012
at 12:16 AM

Meats are all fine!

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on May 06, 2012
at 10:42 PM

yikes. You can eat beef though still, right?

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on May 06, 2012
at 08:36 PM

Why are you doing zero starch? And what are your primary GI symptoms?

Everyone is different in terms of what they can tolerate. I don't have your auto-immune condition so I don't know the protocol for it, but I do have IBS. Some other foods I find tolerable: - citrus fruits, bananas - white rice - spinach (every day I eat a big spinach salad with tomato, cucumber, avocado, berries, toated pumpkin seeds and a protein source) - bone broth made without onions, just herbs - carrots, beets - fish - eggs (although I am thinking they might be gassy for me), bacon - small quantities of nuts - some fermented veg (pickles) - kefir, plain yoghurt

B1076248dde479773e75044818e1878c

(458)

on May 06, 2012
at 10:03 PM

Zero starch for spondylitis. For some reason, starch triggers spinal arthritis symptoms. This may be due to "feeding" a type of bacteria in our gut that is triggering autoimmune (still being debated).

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E8b11ac80464cc79aa51e486422378c2

on October 04, 2012
at 06:48 PM

I have your same condition and am nightshade free, nut free, coconut free(intolerance). After a year of doing my own rotation/elimination diet, i took the alcat food intolerance test, and its been helpful. I still dont do well with starch but i am getting better. I empathize b/c its terribly frustrating

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on May 07, 2012
at 01:34 PM

Have you looked into GAPS, and specifically a GAPS practitioner in your area? You are on a modified GAPS type diet, and GAPS might provide a structure for adding in additional foods, probiotics, fermented vegetables, and such. Have you tried fermented carrots?

Bone broth is going to be the most helpful for you. I dont ever use vegetables in my broths (bones and filtered water only), but I do make soups out of them with whatever vegetables.

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on May 07, 2012
at 09:44 AM

Hi, not sure if my answer is going to be helpful but...

I discovered I cannot eat RAW veggies but steamed - fine. Try STEAMED onions and other steamed things:

pumpkin

Chinese cabbage

parsnips (baked)

beets (I bake them)

red cabbage

fennel

chicory plant

TRY STEAMING, really!

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