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Did anyone get worse before getting better when starting paleo?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 24, 2011 at 3:40 AM

Hi ~ just wondering if anyone began paleo to support heath, perhaps help resolve a health problem, and encountered a sort of got worse before I got better sort of scenario.

I wrote in at the beginning of the month, looking for direction, information and so on. I started paleo, began feeling better. Then, I had a flare up of my autoimmune disease (AS); sort of a bad flare within the flare I was still in.

I don't know how to describe it, but I just felt as though I were improving, that the flare was just somehow working its way out. Finally, I got iritis/uveitis. I'm improving. I just feel that I'm on the right path.

To me, it would have kind of made sense if I'd said, well look, here I am feeling worse, I'll go back to my old way of eating: whole foods, plant based, gluten free.

But it wasn't that way, I just felt as though things were cooling down, inflammation wise, in the larger scheme of my health.

Fingers crossed, I'm keeping on keeping on, and just wanted to know if this was an individual thing or if anyone else here went through something similar?

Thanks!

4145b36f1488224964edac6258b75aff

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on September 19, 2011
at 05:00 PM

I have Crohn's and went through a ~3month flare when switching diets. It's going to vary wildly based on the individual and the disease, so unfortunately people can't really give you a set timeframe or specifics. It's possible that your particular condition won't heal with only dietary intervention, or may never fully heal. I can say this: three weeks is way too short a time to tell if it's going to work. Months to years is the mental timeframe you should be working with. It's a marathon, not a sprint. good luck! :)

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on September 19, 2011
at 04:47 PM

What if its something in the diet that you didn't eat much of before giving you trouble? Maybe you're eating WAY more eggs than you used to and a mild allergy is turning in to a big allergy.... pork? night shades?

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on March 19, 2011
at 08:02 PM

Oh...I should read more carefully. Thanks for replying, nonetheless. I down a boat load of fish oil and eat it in its unprocessed animal form. If I'm honest, I think I'm just playing too hard.

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on March 19, 2011
at 06:33 PM

I've never had an iritis attack; that's L.S. who was the original poster (I just edited and re-tagged). Hopefully we'll get a re-post. But how's your 3:6 ratio? That seems to be the thing that triggers my pain.

07ad8e05f734cb1deec5479dc0e4a194

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on January 25, 2011
at 12:41 AM

Hi Cynarin, thanks so much for helping me trouble shoot. I love beets, I did not think to sub, what a great idea, thanks! I've been eating lots of wild caught alaskan salmon, and also supplementing with omega 3 fish oil. I've been watching my fruit intake carefully and sticking for the most part with berries, but yes, I did have some apples and applesauce so I'm going to put those on hold for now. Thanks so much my spondy-sister! : )

1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

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on January 24, 2011
at 08:14 PM

I don't have an issue with sweet potatoes but I hear a lot of people do with a number of autoimmune conditions. Try out an elimination protocol, and maybe sub in something like turnips or beets (starchy, but Old World, and so, theoretically, more adapted). I have noticed that too much fructose can be a trigger, and lots of dairy, too. How are your omega-3s? Are you supplementing or eating oily fish? That made a huge difference for me. (Also, it's funny...your initials are the same as mine!)

07ad8e05f734cb1deec5479dc0e4a194

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on January 24, 2011
at 07:46 PM

Excellent point, thank so much!

07ad8e05f734cb1deec5479dc0e4a194

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on January 24, 2011
at 07:45 PM

"flare of activity at first" wow, that's exactly what I'm experiencing. Yes, I am under the care of specialists and am tapering my steroid eye drops now under supervision, and feeling better. Thanks!

07ad8e05f734cb1deec5479dc0e4a194

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on January 24, 2011
at 07:45 PM

Well thank you so much! Sweet potatoes. They are starchy (going with the whole reduce or eliminate starch for AS), but I've been having about one or two every few days or so. Have you eliminated them? Apples: I know some say they are starchy, but I guess I've just been focusing on eliminating all grains, all legumes, all soy products right now and have been strict with that. I do still have some dairy and eggs in my diet which I know can be problematic for some. Thanks again, and I am feeling better, hoping so fervently it will last! : )

07ad8e05f734cb1deec5479dc0e4a194

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on January 24, 2011
at 04:58 PM

Oh, man, sorry to hear that! Best wishes. : )

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on January 24, 2011
at 06:13 PM

Read Wofgang Lutz - "Life WIhout Bread"

He describes how those with true autoimmune diseases can experience a flare of activity at first. See your PHYSICIAN if you think you might need some corticosteroids or other medication temporarily for this...

I assume you have Reiter's or something similar?

07ad8e05f734cb1deec5479dc0e4a194

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on January 24, 2011
at 07:45 PM

"flare of activity at first" wow, that's exactly what I'm experiencing. Yes, I am under the care of specialists and am tapering my steroid eye drops now under supervision, and feeling better. Thanks!

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on January 24, 2011
at 11:26 AM

There could be specific foods on a paleo diet that are making it worse.

Not everyone reacts the same to the same foods.

Most people kind of preach that if you have an autoimmune disease you should avoid Night Shades and eggs.

So if you are still consuming those foods I would recommend you remove them and see if you improve.

07ad8e05f734cb1deec5479dc0e4a194

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on January 24, 2011
at 07:46 PM

Excellent point, thank so much!

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on March 19, 2011
at 09:19 AM

Cynarin...I realize this is an old question, but it came up when I searched "iritis". I'm a paleo guy with AS and have had one iritis attack maybe 8 years ago. I think I feel another coming on and it coincides with a switch to super-strict (VLC) paleo.

Just wondering how the attack you describe above resolved and if you see any links to diet. My last (and only) bout of "hot f***ing dagger through the eye" was intense for a week and lasted about a month. It required heavy doses of steroid drops - hoping there's a more bacon-oriented solution...

Any thoughts?

1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

(6550)

on March 19, 2011
at 06:33 PM

I've never had an iritis attack; that's L.S. who was the original poster (I just edited and re-tagged). Hopefully we'll get a re-post. But how's your 3:6 ratio? That seems to be the thing that triggers my pain.

Medium avatar

(3259)

on March 19, 2011
at 08:02 PM

Oh...I should read more carefully. Thanks for replying, nonetheless. I down a boat load of fish oil and eat it in its unprocessed animal form. If I'm honest, I think I'm just playing too hard.

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0e1f7e14caba1404e8bfa56384c4125b

on June 10, 2013
at 04:56 AM

Yes, I think I'm feeling worse before better in re to the rheumatoid arthritis pain, which is making me freak out and question the whole 30 day challenge I'm currently on (in day 12). To the point where I think I may have to go back on my meds, at least temporarily, because I can barely function int he mornings. So many conflicting reports! Will stick with it for the 30 days and see if there's any improvement in the joint pain. The bloating went in around 3 days, which was fab! :)

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on September 19, 2011
at 04:03 PM

Hi, I just stumbled across this post as I was looking to see if any one else had experienced a "getworse" before better when on Paleo. I have been on the Paleo diet for about three weeks so far to see if it will relieve my psoriatic arthritis. So far Ive noticed that my psoriasis has gotten about 30% better but my arthritis has gotten a bit worse. I was hoping this was all part of the healing process, but Im beginning to wonder how long to put up with it before deciding if I should call it quits. Ive stopped eating nightshades, but I can't quit the eggs as they are a staple in my diet. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

4145b36f1488224964edac6258b75aff

(7821)

on September 19, 2011
at 05:00 PM

I have Crohn's and went through a ~3month flare when switching diets. It's going to vary wildly based on the individual and the disease, so unfortunately people can't really give you a set timeframe or specifics. It's possible that your particular condition won't heal with only dietary intervention, or may never fully heal. I can say this: three weeks is way too short a time to tell if it's going to work. Months to years is the mental timeframe you should be working with. It's a marathon, not a sprint. good luck! :)

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1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

on January 24, 2011
at 06:23 PM

I'm so sorry to hear that you're having issues, sugar.

Maybe toss up a few sample meals...I can let you know if anything you're eating has been a problem for my spondylarthropathy.

1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

(6550)

on January 24, 2011
at 08:14 PM

I don't have an issue with sweet potatoes but I hear a lot of people do with a number of autoimmune conditions. Try out an elimination protocol, and maybe sub in something like turnips or beets (starchy, but Old World, and so, theoretically, more adapted). I have noticed that too much fructose can be a trigger, and lots of dairy, too. How are your omega-3s? Are you supplementing or eating oily fish? That made a huge difference for me. (Also, it's funny...your initials are the same as mine!)

07ad8e05f734cb1deec5479dc0e4a194

(315)

on January 25, 2011
at 12:41 AM

Hi Cynarin, thanks so much for helping me trouble shoot. I love beets, I did not think to sub, what a great idea, thanks! I've been eating lots of wild caught alaskan salmon, and also supplementing with omega 3 fish oil. I've been watching my fruit intake carefully and sticking for the most part with berries, but yes, I did have some apples and applesauce so I'm going to put those on hold for now. Thanks so much my spondy-sister! : )

07ad8e05f734cb1deec5479dc0e4a194

(315)

on January 24, 2011
at 07:45 PM

Well thank you so much! Sweet potatoes. They are starchy (going with the whole reduce or eliminate starch for AS), but I've been having about one or two every few days or so. Have you eliminated them? Apples: I know some say they are starchy, but I guess I've just been focusing on eliminating all grains, all legumes, all soy products right now and have been strict with that. I do still have some dairy and eggs in my diet which I know can be problematic for some. Thanks again, and I am feeling better, hoping so fervently it will last! : )

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on January 24, 2011
at 04:19 AM

Yes, I started Robb Wolf's 30 day challenge. I felt OKAY for awhile, then crashed. It seems my adrenals may have died. The timing may have had nothing to do with going Paleo; but it came on right after my diet change. I am no longer on Paleo, but I do not eat much grain and a only a little dairy.

I am getting some adrenal tests tomorrow. Once that gets sorted out, I will try Paleo again; but, I expect to ease into it over a few weeks.

07ad8e05f734cb1deec5479dc0e4a194

(315)

on January 24, 2011
at 04:58 PM

Oh, man, sorry to hear that! Best wishes. : )

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