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Autoimmune issues

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 13, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Hey everyone. I recently tried paleo for a month to really get to the bottom of the issues I've been having the past few years and I'm so overwhelmed. I have reactions to every little thing I put in my body. Anyways I had great results with the paleo plan. I lost weight, had energy and was a lot happier. Although I have a hard time breaking my habit of eating thinkthin bars. It sounds crazy but I'm addicted to them because I constantly crave chocolate and I also crave tortilla chips. It was hard for me to stick to the plan perfectly and I need to get back on the wagon. I'm swollen everywhere and I'm miserable. Anyone have any similar issues? I had a hair analysis done 5 months ago and they Saudi had a slow metabolism type 2 and my thyroid was sluggish..

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on July 30, 2012
at 03:35 PM

My preference is Carlson's Solar D Gems (in a CLO base). Best price is on iherb.

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on July 30, 2012
at 02:55 PM

Dragonfly, is there a D3 supplement you would recommend?

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on May 15, 2012
at 01:28 AM

If I seem too paranoid about carbs, it's just that I went way too low carb my first 2 months without meaning to, and it reawakened serious depression in me. I was having panic attacks on the street, literally collapsing on the sidewalk in tears -- which has NEVER happened to me before. I started eating a large sweet potato every day and my mood has been 100% better.

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on May 15, 2012
at 01:26 AM

That doesn't sound like a lot of carbs to me. I don't know what health issues you are dealing with, but have you entered what you're eating into a nutrition calculator like cronometer? Might help you identify some nutrients you are missing.

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on May 15, 2012
at 01:23 AM

Hmm that's a good question. I don't feel qualified to answer it, but I'm sure someone more knowledgeable would be able to address that concern. My biggest piece of advice would just be to be patient. I'm almost three months in on super-strict paleo and I've barely seen any progress yet. (My little bit of cellulite is totally gone though!) From what I hear, a lot of people need 6 to 9 months to see real improvement.

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on May 14, 2012
at 10:04 PM

To be perfectly honest what has worked for me is cutting everything out except a few times a week throw in 1/2 a sweet potato to replenish after workouts. I also developed a recipe for a cookie that helps with the chocolate craving while still being paleo. It's just hard when everyone around you has no restrictions, but I know what works so I need to buckle down and create new habits. Thank u for the feedback.

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at 03:28 AM

I deal with vitiligo, which is also autoimmune, and have the greatest sympathy, but honestly, I am wary of making recommendations to people over the internet. I would find a good naturopath and consult ...

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on May 14, 2012
at 01:58 AM

Thank you I really appreciate the feedback. I do exercise frequently and I feel the need to add sweet potatoes to make me feel better as my starchy carb choice. One of my other issues is my calcium levels are dangerously high so I was afraid to supplement with vitamin D not knowing if this would cause issues or not.

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on May 14, 2012
at 01:01 AM

Yes I do agree with the magnesium. What supplement would you prefer? Also although I've had no known issues with brown rice protein, would u recommend me still cutting it out along with dairy and even gluten free oatmeal? Sorry so many questions I'm just desperate for some feedback that I haven't been able to get anywhere

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E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

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on May 14, 2012
at 01:41 AM

If you have a sluggish thyroid, it might not be great to go too low-carb. My thyroid tends toward the hypo side of things and low-carb destroys me.

I hear you on the struggles with autoimmune issues. Try to relax a little and be gentle with yourself --- these sorts of health issues take a LONG time to sort out. It's great that you're already noticing some positive feedback from one month of paleo, but it is going to take longer than that to heal completely. You can search for other threads on here about the same autoimmune disorder that you have to get more specific information.

I went through a similar phase of reacting to everything when I started, and I think it's the combination of various vitamin/nutrient deficiencies and leaky gut on top of the stress of such a drastic dietary change that will make the transition period difficult. Hang in there, be patient, get tons of sleep, find paleo foods that you enjoy, take vitamin D, go for long walks and find healthy ways to relax. I can tell you that it gets much easier to stick to the plan. I never have the desire to "cheat" any more. Especially when you start to notice more health benefits. Good luck.

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

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on May 15, 2012
at 01:23 AM

Hmm that's a good question. I don't feel qualified to answer it, but I'm sure someone more knowledgeable would be able to address that concern. My biggest piece of advice would just be to be patient. I'm almost three months in on super-strict paleo and I've barely seen any progress yet. (My little bit of cellulite is totally gone though!) From what I hear, a lot of people need 6 to 9 months to see real improvement.

D576f84e8964a72d05478e9822b36db1

(20)

on May 14, 2012
at 01:58 AM

Thank you I really appreciate the feedback. I do exercise frequently and I feel the need to add sweet potatoes to make me feel better as my starchy carb choice. One of my other issues is my calcium levels are dangerously high so I was afraid to supplement with vitamin D not knowing if this would cause issues or not.

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on May 14, 2012
at 09:51 AM

I agree with everything Violet9 has said. Identify>plan>commit>retrace>heal. And through it all, chill!

Going from SAD to strict is a huge stressor. Some people work best with cold turkey and others with slow change and slow improvements. I would recommend developing a plan - with a naturopath - on combining GAPS and autoimmune paleo into a medium-carb diet for YOU. The two go well together, but are both significant (often seen as restrictive) changes from mainstream eating and can both drift into VLC quite easily which you don't want in your case.

Your concern about calcium and vitD is valid, but unlikely. Was your vitD level tested? At any rate, the CAUSE of the hypercalcimia is unlikely to be vitD, but more about your parathyroid function or your autoimmune reactions generally. Deal with the source and the rest should fall into place.

Your cravings may be for texture or hyperpalatability. Can you handle coconut flour crackers? Would (salted!) kale chips help? Look up AIP-friendly "granola" bars or fruit leathers. I crave chocolate when I haven't had enough fat; make sure you're eating enough good food and the desire for fast fixes will fade as your appetite gets more sensitive.

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on May 14, 2012
at 12:55 AM

I am by no means an expert, but it seems to me that if you're craving chocolate and tortilla chips, you may be mineral deficient. I crave chocolate when my magnesium levels are low. Or rather, I should say that I can nip the chocolate cravings by taking magnesium. :) I don't know about the tortilla chips, unless it's just the salt?

1398eff69b192c35de5e0dbaad59052a

(2024)

on May 14, 2012
at 03:28 AM

I deal with vitiligo, which is also autoimmune, and have the greatest sympathy, but honestly, I am wary of making recommendations to people over the internet. I would find a good naturopath and consult ...

D576f84e8964a72d05478e9822b36db1

(20)

on May 14, 2012
at 01:01 AM

Yes I do agree with the magnesium. What supplement would you prefer? Also although I've had no known issues with brown rice protein, would u recommend me still cutting it out along with dairy and even gluten free oatmeal? Sorry so many questions I'm just desperate for some feedback that I haven't been able to get anywhere

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on May 14, 2012
at 12:18 PM

My experience is very similar: I have autoimmune Hashi's - hypothyroid - it takes my body a long time to adjust to changes I make. I'm just starting Paleo (been slow-carb for a year and half) and I've often craved plain tortilla chips and chocolate. I'm working to balance Calcium/Magnesium and that's helped the chocolate craving a lot. I can tell I miss the salty, crunchy texture of chips; wondered if it's emotional eating or if it's a sensory thing. (Thanks for the kale chip and coconut flour cracker ideas LaurenM).

I need some starch and sweet potatoes work best for me, I'm avoiding rice cakes for a while to see if those are a problem for me.

I used Natural Calm for a Magnesium supplement before getting my current prescription for Magnesium. Do you have a good holistic doc? I've muddled through a lot of this on my own, but a good doc would be able to do some testing to help figure these things out quicker.

I'd be interested knowing what works for you, Tiffaney.

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

(2063)

on May 15, 2012
at 01:28 AM

If I seem too paranoid about carbs, it's just that I went way too low carb my first 2 months without meaning to, and it reawakened serious depression in me. I was having panic attacks on the street, literally collapsing on the sidewalk in tears -- which has NEVER happened to me before. I started eating a large sweet potato every day and my mood has been 100% better.

D576f84e8964a72d05478e9822b36db1

(20)

on May 14, 2012
at 10:04 PM

To be perfectly honest what has worked for me is cutting everything out except a few times a week throw in 1/2 a sweet potato to replenish after workouts. I also developed a recipe for a cookie that helps with the chocolate craving while still being paleo. It's just hard when everyone around you has no restrictions, but I know what works so I need to buckle down and create new habits. Thank u for the feedback.

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

(2063)

on May 15, 2012
at 01:26 AM

That doesn't sound like a lot of carbs to me. I don't know what health issues you are dealing with, but have you entered what you're eating into a nutrition calculator like cronometer? Might help you identify some nutrients you are missing.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on May 14, 2012
at 01:17 AM

Get your Vitamin D tested & sun or supplement to 50-60 ng/ml. More info at www.vitamindcouncil.org

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 30, 2012
at 02:55 PM

Dragonfly, is there a D3 supplement you would recommend?

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on July 30, 2012
at 03:35 PM

My preference is Carlson's Solar D Gems (in a CLO base). Best price is on iherb.

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