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Autimmune Issues - Chronic Stuffy/Runny Nose

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 04, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Hey Guys,

I have been Paleo for a few months solid now and have had chronic stuffy/ runny nose. I went to the doc a few years ago and he told me I have overactive turbinates, which are the balloon like things in your nose that swell up around allergens and then secrete mucous (basically what gives you a runny/ stuffy nose). He suggested a reduction (small 15 minute procedure), but I would prefer to find out what is causing it since that won't solve the problem, just reduce the symptoms.

This is has been the case since I can remember, I don't know if I've ever been able to breathe normally through both nostrils- If I do it's like 2 minutes and still some restriction in either nostril.

I know for sure I react to gluten and dairy (my eyes swell up and I break out in eczema) and just had exposure to prove it in the last 2 months for both, so far nothing has come from white rice and legumes (mild tummy ache, but nothing horrible) and I don't really care to keep them on the menu anyway.

Is there anything else I'm missing? Should I be looking into eliminating anything else? Thanks in advance.

24 Female 160 lbs, mildly active

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

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on October 03, 2012
at 08:59 AM

I bought some separately and don't use it much. The eggs don't seem to be working but then again the wait staff could be complacent when they tell me the food had no eggs. I'll try cutting out ghee tho too just in case

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on September 06, 2012
at 09:55 AM

could also be mold, but then again, it might not be the issue at all. Still, might be something to look into.

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

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on September 05, 2012
at 11:00 PM

Hm, I do notice it gets worse when I'm in public places with AC (ESPECIALLY on airplanes ugh), but at home we do not have AC and usually have the windows open all the time now. I have lived in Seattle, Northern California, and Southern California- AC, Heater, None of the above in all- and noticed no difference except major sneezing during allergy season. I haven't had steady enough work to really notice any major changes, though (working from home now). I'll keep it in mind, though, cleaning AC filters isn't on the top of anyone's To Do List, right? haha

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 05, 2012
at 04:49 PM

Sort of like a neti pot, but more efficient in my opinion, and less likely to cause ear issues because you tip your head straight forward instead of sideways and forward. I tried neti pots, and the slow trickling action drove me batty. This squeeze bottle thing is "high volume, low pressure" and only has to take a few seconds on each side if I'm pressed for time. Here's link: http://www.neilmed.com/usa/sinusrinse.php

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

(3979)

on September 05, 2012
at 03:04 PM

Wait, like a neti pot?

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on September 05, 2012
at 03:02 AM

It may or may not mask getting to the root of things. It is a very temporary fix, 8-12 hours max. I just think of it as a non-drug version of taking a decongestant before bed so I can sleep, and breath through my nose at the same time. You could do it at night, and then not do it during the day if you are tracking symptoms. I just know how miserable I get when I can't breath well.

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

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on September 04, 2012
at 11:04 PM

Yeah going out seems to cause it to get worse in spite of how strictly I order "Paleo-friendly" foods. Frustrating. We are social creatures, though, going out may just have to require temporary symptom-fixers like the NeilMed suggested above rather than worrying so much about the tiniest ingredients they add to it that may be causing the problem...

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

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on September 04, 2012
at 10:09 PM

Right, I've found the major offenders (gluten and dairy), I'm just trying to figure out something that is less immediate in reaction, which seems to be harder to pinpoint. Thanks for the input :)

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

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on September 04, 2012
at 10:07 PM

Oh and my allergies got worse in Chico, if anyone develops allergies, it's Nor Cal >_< I feel your pain!

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

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on September 04, 2012
at 10:06 PM

I do eat both of those, maybe I'll do a 30 day cleanse of those soon... Thanks for your input :)

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

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on September 04, 2012
at 10:04 PM

I have never heard of this! Although I'm worried that if I make it easier to breathe, I won't be able to pinpoint a specific food if I did happen to have symptoms? Maybe it will be a temp thing for the future? Thanks!

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

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on September 04, 2012
at 10:01 PM

Yeah I use Ghee and Coconut oil- no butter- no protein powder, heavy cream, etc. I could also look into a better source of ghee. Also, when I ask for something with no cheese, it's possible there is some exposure (they put it on, and wipe it off because they forgot). I will look into eggs though, thanks for the suggestions!

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on September 04, 2012
at 07:23 PM

Have you eliminated all dairy, including protein powder and heavy cream/butter? Even little bits of lactose, casein, or whey can cause quite noticeable symptoms. As mentioned below, eggs are also a very common allergen. Sometimes it's just the whites, sometimes the yolks, sometimes the cooking method.

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245cbe47a4a092c07f494233c4c28a5c

(269)

on October 02, 2012
at 07:18 PM

Re: Ghee

I'm a lactard and tried using ghee- I made it myself from organic/free range milk and double cooked it to make absolutely certain it was pure fat.

My body still can't handle it; my reaction isn't even digestive but I get cystic acne, which I think is more an immune response than anything else.

So if you are lactose-sensitive then try going ghee-less. I only use coconut & olive oil now (just started in with red palm oil, too) and that works for me.

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

(260)

on October 03, 2012
at 08:59 AM

I bought some separately and don't use it much. The eggs don't seem to be working but then again the wait staff could be complacent when they tell me the food had no eggs. I'll try cutting out ghee tho too just in case

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D474002cf9816a783b81b5ffc403b2b0

on October 09, 2012
at 01:00 AM

It sound as though you have a good bit of detoxing to do. Definitely avoid all soy, gluten and lactose. Make sure you are getting enough saturated fats in the diet, almost 1/2 of your calories should be from fat, about 30% from protein (grass fed meat, eggs) and lots of low glycemic vegetables, especially green leafy veggies. You want 2000 calories a day to meet your nutrient needs.

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on September 05, 2012
at 02:20 PM

Might not be what you think, might be you have a dirty A/C unit that needs a filter cleaning. Might not even be at your home, the air conditioner at work, or your gym might be problematic, etc.

Is it all the time, or just weekdays? This might point out home vs work. Just a thought, might be completely off, but might be worth checking.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on September 06, 2012
at 09:55 AM

could also be mold, but then again, it might not be the issue at all. Still, might be something to look into.

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

(260)

on September 05, 2012
at 11:00 PM

Hm, I do notice it gets worse when I'm in public places with AC (ESPECIALLY on airplanes ugh), but at home we do not have AC and usually have the windows open all the time now. I have lived in Seattle, Northern California, and Southern California- AC, Heater, None of the above in all- and noticed no difference except major sneezing during allergy season. I haven't had steady enough work to really notice any major changes, though (working from home now). I'll keep it in mind, though, cleaning AC filters isn't on the top of anyone's To Do List, right? haha

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on September 04, 2012
at 10:59 PM

I have the same problems with dairy and gluten too and just about anything processed. If I eat anything store bought that is processed in any way or eat out I almost always get a sinus problem. Mine tends to be more of a post nasal drip that causes my tonsils and uvula swell up. I don't know what is in stuff that causes it but I think there is more whey and gluten in small amounts in just about everything than we know. It's really frustrating because so long as I start with all raw ingredients I do fine but eating out is an automatic night of nasal issues. I am thinking maybe it's stuff in seasonings?

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

(260)

on September 04, 2012
at 11:04 PM

Yeah going out seems to cause it to get worse in spite of how strictly I order "Paleo-friendly" foods. Frustrating. We are social creatures, though, going out may just have to require temporary symptom-fixers like the NeilMed suggested above rather than worrying so much about the tiniest ingredients they add to it that may be causing the problem...

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57da9bdc68b2588e9403e16183b04047

on September 04, 2012
at 07:56 PM

I have had the same sinus problems since I can remember too. Mine are definitely worse and spring and around then is when I can tell what foods I'm sensitive to the most. Any form of gluten, brown rice (weird i know but in a lot of gluten free stuff)tree nuts and other small crunchy things that can effect the ileosecal valve. Dairy and gluten are the main ones though. You might have a more keyed in radar about what works for your body and what does not because of your sinus

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

(260)

on September 04, 2012
at 10:09 PM

Right, I've found the major offenders (gluten and dairy), I'm just trying to figure out something that is less immediate in reaction, which seems to be harder to pinpoint. Thanks for the input :)

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Ef7214374ddcf81d9ef03c8863bbd7c2

on September 04, 2012
at 07:18 PM

I tend to have a very fussy sinus - have had it for years and have always blamed it on the pollen and all the trees in Sacramento. However, it has been pretty well managed with the Paleo diet... all this until two weeks ago, when my ears started getting clogged after a pretty large dose of dark chocolate and nuts. So I've eliminated those although it may not have been the chocolate per se but the additives in it. All this to say, are you eating nuts? Eggs? I hear/read that those can cause trouble for some people. Eliminate the food for a month and see if you feel better, then add it back and see if you feel worse or the condition returns.

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

(260)

on September 04, 2012
at 10:07 PM

Oh and my allergies got worse in Chico, if anyone develops allergies, it's Nor Cal >_< I feel your pain!

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

(260)

on September 04, 2012
at 10:06 PM

I do eat both of those, maybe I'll do a 30 day cleanse of those soon... Thanks for your input :)

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on September 04, 2012
at 06:56 PM

I know it is treating the symptoms and not the cause, but have you tried a sinus rinse (like the NeilMed one) with a hypertonic solution. It actually shrinks the mucus membranes, making it more likely that air will be able to pass through.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on September 05, 2012
at 03:02 AM

It may or may not mask getting to the root of things. It is a very temporary fix, 8-12 hours max. I just think of it as a non-drug version of taking a decongestant before bed so I can sleep, and breath through my nose at the same time. You could do it at night, and then not do it during the day if you are tracking symptoms. I just know how miserable I get when I can't breath well.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on September 05, 2012
at 04:49 PM

Sort of like a neti pot, but more efficient in my opinion, and less likely to cause ear issues because you tip your head straight forward instead of sideways and forward. I tried neti pots, and the slow trickling action drove me batty. This squeeze bottle thing is "high volume, low pressure" and only has to take a few seconds on each side if I'm pressed for time. Here's link: http://www.neilmed.com/usa/sinusrinse.php

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

(3979)

on September 05, 2012
at 03:04 PM

Wait, like a neti pot?

06894589e5710456ed32c2cd10891c05

(260)

on September 04, 2012
at 10:04 PM

I have never heard of this! Although I'm worried that if I make it easier to breathe, I won't be able to pinpoint a specific food if I did happen to have symptoms? Maybe it will be a temp thing for the future? Thanks!

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