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Anyone Following Kent Rieske's Dietary Strategy for Pushing Autoimmunity into Remission?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 18, 2011 at 1:24 AM

I recently purchased Kent Rieske's Absolute Truth Exposed Volume 1 since I liked the info he had on his website. Kent seems to make a lot of sense and his book also makes a lot of sense. So what, he talks about everything from the Big Bang to religion. The chapter I was interested in was his "strategy for achieving remission in autoimmune diseases" (Chapter 5).

Kent's strategy is similar to the Paleo and low carb mainstream. He believes in whole foods. He is into low carbing. He does not like starches, even "safe starches" such as potatoes, sweet potatoes, and rice. He's also not keen on fiber, which could be problematic for someone with IBD or other autoimmune diseases related to the gut.

The only key differences I see are:

  • Kent doesn't believe in organic vegetables, fruits or "free range" eggs.
  • Kent doesn't seem to believe that grass-fed meats are superior: he believes that the dangers of antibiotics, hormones, and pesticides regarding conventional beef are spread by vegetarians and "grass-fed beef salesmen".
  • Kent is okay with famred fish
  • Kent is okay with butter, eggs, and hard cheeses (for those without candida) ... for those with autoimmune issues (but not with any other dairy products)
  • Kent recommends balancing n-6 imbalance with 2 tbsps of Cod Liver Oil.

I don't have problems with most of these suggestions. Is anyone seriously following this? I'm gonna be balancing this with Robb Wolf's Paleo Solution and also The Gut and Psychology Diet by Natasha Campbell-McBride.

6/1/2011 edited: I'm also interested in what people may have to say about Kent's supplement recommendation. His choices of supplements are intriguing, and similar with the PHD and other Paleo type diet recommendations.

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on September 12, 2011
at 09:48 PM

yah see this is why I say in my answer that Rieske is a maniac and makes some really silly claims. "God hates Vegetarians"??! Um no Kent. For those that believe in the God of Christianity, even the Bible itself states that God hates only one thing: sin, not the sinner. Duh. And correct me if I'm wrong but Christians don't preach that eating meat was a requirement for getting into heaven. How ridiculous. Rieske is a self-proclaimed Bible expert. I'm not and I know this stuff. wtf?

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on September 07, 2011
at 11:51 AM

And yes, chickens in pasture with hogs or cows will scratch through their manure to find undigested grain and any maggots that may be growing in it. This is a GOOD THING. It's good food for the chickens, and it spreads the manure around and helps it decompose faster.

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on September 07, 2011
at 11:49 AM

He's simply wrong about chickens. Yes, "commercial free-range" chickens may only have a small bare dirt area to go outside, and they may prefer to go inside (for one thing, chickens prefer not to be in direct sunlight too long -- predators from above). But that's an indictment of regulators, who allow "free-range" to mean something completely other than what the average consumer expects it to mean (see also: organic). When I let my chickens out, they spend the day walking around eating grass and insects, only stopping in the hot part of the day to sit in the shade of a tree or building.

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on September 06, 2011
at 11:55 PM

geez. That's hilarious. Some of the earliest Christian ascetic saints were vegetarians....

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on September 06, 2011
at 11:52 PM

"... Vegetarians are an enemy of the true God who created animals for mans' food. The Bible clearly describes the conflict between God and vegetarians. God hates vegetarians." You truly don't wanna unleash Kent on your worst enemy.

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on September 06, 2011
at 11:51 PM

Here's Kent's position regarding animals and vegetarianism: "Christianity and vegetarianism are mutually exclusive religions. Christians worship the triune Creator God; the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Vegetarians worship animals. Vegetarians do not possess the indwelling Holy Spirit through regeneration being "born again" of the Spirit of God. This is intuitively obvious by their twisting of the Holy Scripture, ignoring clear Biblical teaching and failure to discern truth from error ..."

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on September 06, 2011
at 04:21 PM

also, what about caring about treating the animals we eat right? Or building sustainable communities? Kent Rieske sounds like he doesn't care about these things.

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on May 18, 2011
at 05:32 PM

i will be curious to see if this bill does end up getting passed: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-254 (i guess they have to chat for a while about the possible relative merits of informing the public sewage sludge is used on their food)

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on May 18, 2011
at 04:43 PM

I am always very cautious when someone tells the "Absolute Truth".

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9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on September 06, 2011
at 04:29 PM

Wow, very disappointing to read. Embracing pastured livestock as food is a holistic philosophy that is about

  • knowing that most scientific research doesn't properly elucidate the synergistic effects of whole foods. Chris Masterjohn is going to start a lab at UIUC that focuses on really understanding the differences between pastured and industrial animals products. Maybe then we can understand the effects of industrial foods.
  • knowledge of the absolute crap that they feed factory farmed animals, not just hormones or antibiotics, but sugar, processed crap, and animal byproducts
  • caring about sustainability, the health of our communities, and the way animals are treated
  • the practices of factory farming and fish farming impair the ability of others to chose another way because they spread disease to wild animals, pollute wetlands

I think it's totally ironic that a Creationist wouldn't care about the health of God's creation...but it's also pretty amusing that someone who follow a religion that focuses on the fallibility of man would claim to know the "absolute truth."

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on September 06, 2011
at 11:55 PM

geez. That's hilarious. Some of the earliest Christian ascetic saints were vegetarians....

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on September 06, 2011
at 11:51 PM

Here's Kent's position regarding animals and vegetarianism: "Christianity and vegetarianism are mutually exclusive religions. Christians worship the triune Creator God; the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Vegetarians worship animals. Vegetarians do not possess the indwelling Holy Spirit through regeneration being "born again" of the Spirit of God. This is intuitively obvious by their twisting of the Holy Scripture, ignoring clear Biblical teaching and failure to discern truth from error ..."

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5152)

on September 06, 2011
at 11:52 PM

"... Vegetarians are an enemy of the true God who created animals for mans' food. The Bible clearly describes the conflict between God and vegetarians. God hates vegetarians." You truly don't wanna unleash Kent on your worst enemy.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on September 12, 2011
at 09:48 PM

yah see this is why I say in my answer that Rieske is a maniac and makes some really silly claims. "God hates Vegetarians"??! Um no Kent. For those that believe in the God of Christianity, even the Bible itself states that God hates only one thing: sin, not the sinner. Duh. And correct me if I'm wrong but Christians don't preach that eating meat was a requirement for getting into heaven. How ridiculous. Rieske is a self-proclaimed Bible expert. I'm not and I know this stuff. wtf?

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Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on May 18, 2011
at 07:46 PM

I have almost read Kent's entire website. And I may have read all his pages on health. I don't have his book, but I think I have a pretty good handle on what would be in it.

He has a lot of really great info on there. He's a maniac to say the least, but his approach was just strong enough to scare me into changing EVERYTHING I was doing wrong. I'm not sure a "Namby Pamby" (sorry I had to.. hehe) approach would have worked on me.

So I am very grateful to Rieske for his info and always will be. In fact, he has become sort of a household name in a joking sort of manner. Like.. we will look at each other and say.. "Rieske would never eat this" or something like that. It's very funny actually. I just picture him as a seemingly cranky old guy living in solitude in the mountainous regions of Colorado that's probably like the nicest guy ever if you get to know him.

I think a big problem with Rieske's style is that he is so harsh, so unforgiving, and seems to condemn so strongly, that it's a big turn off in some ways. If the reason and passion and purpose behind his endeavors is truly to help people because in his heart of hearts he desires to make a difference in the lives of the people that source his info, then the passion to understand the natural human need to feel at least a bit of leniency should also be woven into his mix of work.

At any rate, some of the assertions he proclaims as rock solid truth don't check out well with me. As in, I just think he's straight up incorrect.

I don't agree that:

  • carbs are evil and should be kept to 3% or less of the daily diet

  • you need to avoid all nuts (He does say Macs are ok).

  • conventional supermarket beef is better than grass fed beef from a well run operation.

  • you should avoid all milk completely just because it has carbs.

  • you should avoid all heavy cream just because some use carrageenan.

  • organic farming is a complete scam and a worthless endeavor

  • God hates vegetarians

  • pesticides on my food is ok just because Kent Rieske grew up around that and he is still alive.

So I don't really move toward one extreme or another with Rieske... like saying "I don't agree with the above so I will not pay attention to anything this guy says" or saying... "wow this guy must really know what he's talking about... he's covered everything and seems really passionate about it. He must be right!"

My final answer, for the one million dollars, is that Kent Rieske probably does a lot more good overall than not, and I admire his passion and dedication to help people. Give me an A or B choice between a guy like Rieske and a lazy slug who doesn't do squat, and I'll take Rieske. I reference his site for good info and sometimes just to remember how important it is to eat well, but I absorb with a cautionary and somewhat guarded stance.

Then again, I suppose the same can be said about anything I read/hear/see.

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on September 07, 2011
at 03:46 AM

I purchased this book for content -- specifically, Kent's insights on autoimmunity. Well, I definitely got my money's worth ($24.95). Check out these pearly comments.

Kent on the merits of raising chickens and turkeys in cage-free pastures:

Chickens and turkeys must be the dumbest birds in the world, as those who have raised them can attest. Commercial free-range chickens may be given an access to outside area, but it is usually nothing but barren dirt where they rarely go. The idea that they're walking around in the grass eating insects is simple ignorance. When given the chance to be free, they will return to their cage. Chickens would certainly stop laying eggs if the cage caused them to be under stress, but they lay eggs even more frequently. (p. 107)

Then this beautiful description of bovine intelligence:

Cow are almost as dumb as chickens. A cow kept in a beautiful grassy pasture will lie down in its own excrement. Free-range chickens in the same pasture will scratch and pick in the excrement to find lunch. Animals do not have human emotions or knowledge because they are stupid animals. (p. 108)

Kent, uber alles.

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on September 07, 2011
at 11:51 AM

And yes, chickens in pasture with hogs or cows will scratch through their manure to find undigested grain and any maggots that may be growing in it. This is a GOOD THING. It's good food for the chickens, and it spreads the manure around and helps it decompose faster.

03fa485bfd54734522755f47a5e6597e

(3944)

on September 07, 2011
at 11:49 AM

He's simply wrong about chickens. Yes, "commercial free-range" chickens may only have a small bare dirt area to go outside, and they may prefer to go inside (for one thing, chickens prefer not to be in direct sunlight too long -- predators from above). But that's an indictment of regulators, who allow "free-range" to mean something completely other than what the average consumer expects it to mean (see also: organic). When I let my chickens out, they spend the day walking around eating grass and insects, only stopping in the hot part of the day to sit in the shade of a tree or building.

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on May 18, 2011
at 05:20 PM

hmmm, i see what you're getting at but i'm gonna continue to hedge my bets with eating animals raised to a higher standard for reasons like these (and others): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15198915

to be honest, im actually not quite even entirely sure what a polychlorinated dibenzo-p-dioxins and dibenzofuran is, but i'm pretty sure i don't want it in my dinner's tissues.

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on May 18, 2011
at 05:32 PM

i will be curious to see if this bill does end up getting passed: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-254 (i guess they have to chat for a while about the possible relative merits of informing the public sewage sludge is used on their food)

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on September 06, 2011
at 04:21 PM

also, what about caring about treating the animals we eat right? Or building sustainable communities? Kent Rieske sounds like he doesn't care about these things.

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on September 06, 2011
at 04:08 PM

I agree with Jack above. I prefer to follow the bulletproofexec.com diet. It's similar to Rieske's but with focus on grass fed beef, organic veggies, organic fats, etc. Even organic coffee. Dave Asprey has done his research and tested it out on himself for over 15 years. After being vegan for many years, I changed over to Dave's program and feel SO MUCH better.

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on November 29, 2012
at 04:51 PM

Wow. As much as I enjoyed the Jimmy Moore interview it is clear now that this man's ignorance and downright stupidity exceeds his hits. For whatever reason, Jimmy stayed clear of this guys insanity zones.

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