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Overanalyzing Paleo?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 02, 2012 at 11:20 AM

When I started paleo, all of the research I did pointed me to a lifestyle of eating as many whole foods as possible and cutting out processed, grains, sugars, and dairy products. Now I find people on here arguing over amounts of macronutrients, percentages of carbs/fats, PUFAs, oxalates...

Am I missing something here? Because frankly I think that anyone following this lifestyle is already 10 steps ahead of all the SAD-eaters out there. I doubt that cavemen ever had these discussions...

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on June 13, 2012
at 02:21 PM

Love "Some people want to get a perfect 10 paleo score. Some are happy with a 7." I'm a 9 myself.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 04, 2012
at 05:01 PM

Maybe I should not have called my diet "very strict Paleo". I guess a better description would be strict modified Paleo. I regularly eat some things that are not considered strict but I rarely, if ever, deviate from those things.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 04, 2012
at 04:59 PM

@MissBrenna - Exactly. Butter is not strict but pastured butter doesn't seem too bad for you. Ghee really wouldn't be considered strict either but a lot of people use it since it seems to be relatively harmless. I doubt coffee is strict Paleo too but I'm not giving that up. Lots of nuts and fruit may not be strict Paleo but I feel better when I eat them (at least the fruit anyway) and they are very convenient. I am willing to put a lot into this lifestyle but I don't think I want to give up coffee, butter, nuts or fruits. I still think I am way ahead of 90+% of the population.

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on June 03, 2012
at 01:42 AM

Some people want to get a perfect 10 paleo score. Some are happy with a 7.

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on June 02, 2012
at 10:29 PM

He/she has their own version of Paleo that works the best for them, and they are strict with their own protocol. There are many interpretations of the finer point of 'Paleo' and different things work better for different people. Better be strict about consuming only the foods that make you operate the best than devote yourself to following an arbitrary list of rules.

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(1876)

on June 02, 2012
at 09:54 PM

I don' wear undies.

46c9fbd45b82453f6a2dfe614a853314

(1876)

on June 02, 2012
at 09:54 PM

I could survive on pop tarts, hot pockets, and PBR Pounders

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on June 02, 2012
at 08:29 PM

I ate Poptarts and drank Sprite almost exclusively during high school. :P

1dd1d4bde5b46b4c90efeadea3a96a75

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on June 02, 2012
at 08:25 PM

Would also argue lots of fruit and nuts isn't paleo. How often and in what quantities would they available to human ancestors?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 02, 2012
at 07:01 PM

How is butter strict paleo?

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

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on June 02, 2012
at 06:50 PM

Pop tarts were always disgusting to me, even as a kid. They were so dry and tasteless, like cardboard with a minuscule bit of jam. Does anyone actually like them, or just the idea of an iced pastry with jam? Maybe they got better over the past 20 years... Why am I putting so much thought into this? :)

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on June 02, 2012
at 06:08 PM

lol @ "pop-tart eating binge"

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on June 02, 2012
at 06:07 PM

The process is called "tunneling" the more you focus on one subject area, the deeper you go and the more difficult it is to see anything outside of that particular focus. It is worth remembering that all that we "know" is only a small slice of what "is". Staying humble, well-rounded, and balanced in our perspectives is a good antidote to getting buried in a "tunnel".

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

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on June 02, 2012
at 02:09 PM

Is it a coincidence that the word "overanalyzing" contains the word a-n-a-l ?

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on June 02, 2012
at 01:45 PM

sure. I'd say your question is sensible. I mean, a lot of us are here specifically to discuss the nitty gritty details. Sounds like you eat and live well so keep on truckin. You just don't need to spend time on these boards.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on June 02, 2012
at 12:46 PM

+1 I agree with 98.72456% of the things you've just said. Wanna argue about the rest endlessly? :)

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on June 02, 2012
at 01:02 PM

There are two (at least) types who overanalyze paleo: the first who need to look at every detail because they're pretty sick, deranged and suffering from all sorts of dysfunction. The second who let paleo overwhelm their lives. The former will figure it all out eventually and not stress over paleo much. The latter will obsess from now until the day when they go on a Poptart eating binge never to return to paleo land again.

46c9fbd45b82453f6a2dfe614a853314

(1876)

on June 02, 2012
at 09:54 PM

I could survive on pop tarts, hot pockets, and PBR Pounders

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on June 02, 2012
at 06:50 PM

Pop tarts were always disgusting to me, even as a kid. They were so dry and tasteless, like cardboard with a minuscule bit of jam. Does anyone actually like them, or just the idea of an iced pastry with jam? Maybe they got better over the past 20 years... Why am I putting so much thought into this? :)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on June 02, 2012
at 08:29 PM

I ate Poptarts and drank Sprite almost exclusively during high school. :P

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(19469)

on June 02, 2012
at 06:08 PM

lol @ "pop-tart eating binge"

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45ace03a0eff1219943d746cfb1c4197

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on June 02, 2012
at 11:33 AM

Some people seem to enjoy arguing about details. That's about it in my opinion. Personally, I pay no attention to most of them, even though I'm extremely strict in my food choices. You'll never catch me counting percentages of anything.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on June 02, 2012
at 12:46 PM

+1 I agree with 98.72456% of the things you've just said. Wanna argue about the rest endlessly? :)

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on June 02, 2012
at 12:33 PM

I'm not sure I agree with your assessment. I'll eat white rice, but will avoid other grains (for example). How do I "know" to do this? Because others with more background/expertise have put in the effort to analyze and determine that white rice is probably safer on digestion than many other grains. I'm thankful they've done that. Is it 100% fool proof? No. Is it a bit of a leap of faith on my part? Yes. Has it worked out well for me so far? Definitely.

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on June 02, 2012
at 12:13 PM

Yeah i often wonder about the finer details too. Caveman wouldnt have been nearly as fussy or dialled in to themselves. Im sure that just ate anything and everythingbedible...and even if it wasnt consumable im sure they wouldve tried it anyway...just in case

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on June 02, 2012
at 11:35 AM

I agree with you 100%, but you're ALWAYS going to have those "sciencey/mathematically inclined" individuals. Which is fine and dandy. Whatever works for each individual. Me? No thanks. Too excited to live life passionately to worry about specifics. As long as I have the whole, well rounded knowledge of paleo, I'm good.

One of the LARGEST reasons I avoid forums, discussions, debates, etc is because there is no one size fits all solution for everyone. We're all biologically unique in some way. Some of us respond to dairy, others don't. Some of us need a higher carb percentage due to being a 6 day athlete (myself) others do not. Some feel better being VLC, I feel awful.

I'll never count calories. I'll never measure macronutrient portions. I'll never care to make sure to only eat protein+fat or protein+carb. I'll continue to eat 1-2 word (non-ingredients) foods, mix it as I please, and not feel bad if I put a dalop of fat on my sweet potato. So long as you have your eating style dialed in, you'll be fine.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 02, 2012
at 12:15 PM

I actually appreciate them going into that level of detail. I don't understand a lot of it myself and don't care about most of it as I eat very strict Paleo in a way that works for me (I eat a lot of pastured butter, fruit and nuts). But I think it is great to have a resource where people are this passionate and there can be a healthy discussion about it. I don't look at it as arguing but more like debating the finer details. If they have the time and the energy to do it, great. I may or may not choose to read it and often just skim/scroll through a lot of it.

At least the information is there.
That is a whole lot better that it used to be before sites like this one.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 02, 2012
at 07:01 PM

How is butter strict paleo?

980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

(531)

on June 02, 2012
at 10:29 PM

He/she has their own version of Paleo that works the best for them, and they are strict with their own protocol. There are many interpretations of the finer point of 'Paleo' and different things work better for different people. Better be strict about consuming only the foods that make you operate the best than devote yourself to following an arbitrary list of rules.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 04, 2012
at 05:01 PM

Maybe I should not have called my diet "very strict Paleo". I guess a better description would be strict modified Paleo. I regularly eat some things that are not considered strict but I rarely, if ever, deviate from those things.

1dd1d4bde5b46b4c90efeadea3a96a75

(180)

on June 02, 2012
at 08:25 PM

Would also argue lots of fruit and nuts isn't paleo. How often and in what quantities would they available to human ancestors?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 04, 2012
at 04:59 PM

@MissBrenna - Exactly. Butter is not strict but pastured butter doesn't seem too bad for you. Ghee really wouldn't be considered strict either but a lot of people use it since it seems to be relatively harmless. I doubt coffee is strict Paleo too but I'm not giving that up. Lots of nuts and fruit may not be strict Paleo but I feel better when I eat them (at least the fruit anyway) and they are very convenient. I am willing to put a lot into this lifestyle but I don't think I want to give up coffee, butter, nuts or fruits. I still think I am way ahead of 90+% of the population.

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1bbcd2122d9c75b07440f22ef57d6448

(2934)

on June 02, 2012
at 05:14 PM

I occasionally get frustrated with these boards for tearing apart every last molecule of anything you plan on sticking in your mouth, but I realize that it's important stuff that someone has to figure out. I'm far from a paleo saint, but I appreciate the people who are, and those who've devoted their time to figuring out the details. I don't need every single one of them, but I've learned some important things here.

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5662d1262516ccbd70249e7aeaf58901

(681)

on June 02, 2012
at 01:02 PM

Basically you have to know enough to be able to reasonably evaluate the claims of people who want to give you advice. Or you have to know enough to be able judge whether such people are trustworthy or not.

But some of us just enjoy learning about the science. I was never interested in the biological sciences before, but now I find them fascinating. It's fun and useful because you an apply what you learn to your own body.

I can understand your point of view though. You can do what you like. I'm sure you follow your own best judgement. That's all that any of us can do.

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A65499f2f8c65602881550fe309cd48c

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on June 02, 2012
at 06:00 PM

To each his/her own...your path is the one you have to live with and travel on. Period. no use getting undies in a bunch if their path is different.

46c9fbd45b82453f6a2dfe614a853314

(1876)

on June 02, 2012
at 09:54 PM

I don' wear undies.

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