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Hack my appetite contradiction

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Created December 24, 2011 at 3:16 PM

So I'm staying with my parents in Malaysia for a couple weeks, keeping them company over Christmas. They're under the impression that I have a larger appetite than in the past. I kind of agree but don't think the difference is that drastic because I'm seldom snacking these days. I also do more exercise and weigh a little more (mostly muscle mass I think) so my maintenance calories are higher. Additionally, I think I tend to eat more on paleo, perhaps because I think gluten was making me feel fuller than normal. But I do think that I'm eating more than before, and there have been some strange results.

Yesterday, for instance, I ate a plate full of pork, veggies and rice (lunch); a plate of chicken, rice and cucumber (lunch); a four egg omelette with cheese added (late dinner); a couple bowls of ice cream (late dinner, think 4-5 scoops - its hard to resist these things when they're lying around!); 700 grams of mutton with cheese and tomato sauce (late dinner); and perhaps three bananas (throughout the day). I did go to the gym for an hour, but the weights I was lifting were relatively light. (I skip breakfast unless I'm hungry.) Now that I'm with my parents I've been eating somewhat more carbs than usual, mostly potatoes and rice. When on my own I mostly eat beef, eggs, cheese, veggies and berries - perhaps 1kg beef and 4 eggs on average with smallish quantities of the other things.

I'm not worried about the calories (not sure how many since I'm not cooking most of this food myself, but certainly >3000). I weigh 68kg/150lbs, am 183cm/6ft tall, and I don't have much body fat. But I do notice that sometimes these past few days I've been eating until it becomes slightly uncomfortable to stand up straight because my stomach is so full. Yet I still feel hungry higher up. This has only really begun since coming home to see my parents. When I'm back in Australia I always lose my appetite before my stomach feels painfully full. I'm inclined to suspect this is a food reward/food effort problem because we've been eating out a lot and the food is tasty. Am I eating too much? Am I just eating too quickly? Is there a reason why my stomach is telling me I've overeating when I still have an appetite for eating more food?

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on December 25, 2011
at 05:36 PM

The bloated stomach is a sign of GI irritation. You may or may not have over-eaten, but either way a splurge once a year will resolve itself soon and you just go on.

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on December 25, 2011
at 04:31 PM

So a bloated stomach isn't a sign I'm overeating, or overeating only one week a year isn't worth worrying about?

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on December 25, 2011
at 01:14 AM

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Aside from emotional stuff that could be going on regarding family, holidays etc., a couple of thoughts:

  • carbs will increase your appetite by raising NPY

  • Even though you may only be a few hours different in time zones, this can change the timing of your hunger hormones, especially leptin and grehlin. Grehlin is released based on your pattern of meal timing, and precedes feelings of hunger. (Many people will argue with this statement but the Frecka and Mattes study below suggests it is the case)

I would eat slower and see what happens, and depending on how long you'll be there eat a high protein and fat breakfast soon after you wake up to help reset your internal circadian and ultradian rhythms.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10612704

http://ajpgi.physiology.org/content/294/3/G699.short

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC508375/

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on December 24, 2011
at 04:06 PM

God, I wish I could develop that kind of care-free attitude. I stress-ate 3000 calories of oatmeal and wheat bread this morning and ran an extra 3 miles, and plan on eating raw spinach and a can of salmon for dinner.

Yeah, I have issues. Merry Christmas Eve :(

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on December 25, 2011
at 02:34 AM

I've experienced this on other occasions, especially when i worked for a drilling company out there in western ozzy ... we had an ongoing gig on a minesite and were at some point allowed th feast in their mess every evening. and i was certainly feasting, filling up my plate 3 times (!!!) and having multiple helpings of dessert. This has never happened to me before, and certainly not to that extent.

In retrospect i think that i (propably all humans ftm) tend to crave that which is forbidden. It might well be that in ozzy food is just not that big of an issue for you, there might be more important stuff that distracts your attention. In Malaysia food is suddenly at the center of attention, and you find yourself not being able to stop splurging ?????it's basically the same stuff i experienced. Once the drawbridge has been lowered, it's hard to stop all that shit from creeping in :)

My advice ??? try to get distracted, maybe even get away from the food and do not worry. Seasons come and go. So does body fat.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on December 24, 2011
at 03:55 PM

I'm jealous! Seriously, it sounds like you have a good relationship with food and there isn't much to worry about here. Even if you are eating a little more than usual, due to the general excitement of being with family and away from home, you may also be burning a little more food due to the nervous energy. Stomach dimensions are so variable after eating--depending on what as well as how much you ate--that they're not a valuable indicator. In general, you may be eating a little faster as you're talking, such as taking larger bites/mouthfuls as you gab, and you may not get the "enough" signal in time to prevent having your stomach a little over-full.

You may or may not gain a few pounds during the visit but I'd expect the weight to come right back off when you get home and settle back to your usual routine. If it doesn't happen automatically, you can watch what you eat for a few weeks to take care of it. Small adjustments only, such as slightly smaller servings or a little more frequent fasting, etc.

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on December 25, 2011
at 04:31 PM

So a bloated stomach isn't a sign I'm overeating, or overeating only one week a year isn't worth worrying about?

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 25, 2011
at 05:36 PM

The bloated stomach is a sign of GI irritation. You may or may not have over-eaten, but either way a splurge once a year will resolve itself soon and you just go on.

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on December 24, 2011
at 09:00 PM

You mentioned that you're eating more carbs now than you do at home. One thing that many low carbers--Paleo or otherwise--note is that it's easier for them to feel full once they go low carb. The carbs had been causing cravings and sending signals that told them they were still hungry, even if their calorie count was adequate.

So I suspect that you're experiencing a "reverse low-carb" phenomenon. The carbs you've added back are a) causing cravings for more, and b) delaying the message that you've had enough. Then when you get up from the table, you suddenly notice what the Paleo foods are trying to tell you: you're full!

If this is what's happening, then obviously it will go away once you get back to your regular diet. But if it is the carbs causing this, you might have a few days of cravings to work through once you get back home!

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on December 24, 2011
at 04:01 PM

I do know that flying and traveling causes a lotta stress to the body... even when we think/feel settled in somewhere (away from home), there's still a small amount of stress.
So, simply adding on to what Nance said - you probably require a few more cal's anyway. So enjoy yourself, eat the good food you've mentioned & maybe slow down just a little bit if you don't like that "full" feeling, like Nance said, so you get that signal.

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