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Controlling anxiety

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created August 01, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Hi Everyone

I've had a search and couldn't find anything so please forgive me if this has been asked before!

I am currently going through quite an emotionally tolling time and while I normally cope very well, especially since going Paleo, at the moment I simply have no more cope left and have been suffering from anxiety attacks. My Doctor wants to medicate me, my shrink can't help me fix the problem because it's not mine to fix and while family and friends are a great support they also can't fix the problem.

The emotions I am going through are all very valid and not irrational to the scale of the situation and I will not medicate to get through this.

What I am wondering is what techniques you have developed/tried to help you get through high intensity times? Are there particular foods that help or made it worse?

Any suggestions would be great!

Thanks

UPDATE: a few days into having D3 supplement and 5-HTP I am feeling wonderful. Will be stepping up my exercise regime tonight and slowly increasing fats and carbs. I've had a great weekend which certainly helped. Thanks everyone for the wonderful feedback - hopefully the problems will start to desipate themselves but only time will tell. I have been quite vague on the details as they are deeply personal to those around me but appreciate you all taking the time to respond and for being so caring in your responses

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on August 07, 2012
at 02:31 AM

Personally too low is 80g and under - your number may vary

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on August 06, 2012
at 07:29 AM

Jeez. Take chill pill.

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on August 06, 2012
at 04:59 AM

what is too low for carbohydrates? I normally get 100-150g a day

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on August 06, 2012
at 04:58 AM

maybe that's why I'm going all funny these days

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on August 06, 2012
at 04:23 AM

Thanks Mick Jagger - it didn't come across as rude or unsympathetic at all. While the attacks certainly can be controlled, the problem causing the attacks cannot. Thanks for your suggestions, I'm just doing some research on paniccenter now

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on August 03, 2012
at 08:39 PM

Well, I wouldn't say cut them out completely but under 50 is perfect for me. Everyone is different. I have pcos so too many carbs are really bad for my anxiety.

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on August 03, 2012
at 06:45 PM

Wow, so helpful.

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on August 03, 2012
at 04:45 PM

Meditation is free and amazing. I wasn't a believer until I made it a habit!

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on August 03, 2012
at 08:23 AM

I found the pillars of the Linden method outlined online (for free) and got the gist. (:

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on August 03, 2012
at 08:22 AM

+1 for magnesium and D3! They helped me as well

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on August 03, 2012
at 08:21 AM

Interesting! I'm not sure how many carbs you consume, but I found going too low-carb made my anxiety worse.

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on August 03, 2012
at 02:54 AM

I have insomnia as a direct result of anxiety. Bach's Rescue Remedy is the only thing that helps me get to sleep. It's herbal and you can find it at GNC or other similar stores. Good luck!

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on August 02, 2012
at 11:12 PM

Good for you Vicki! Be sure and take the 5htp with food as it can cause nausea on an empty tummy. Good luck to you.

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on August 02, 2012
at 10:41 PM

I don't think it's silly at all! If you're religious at all, I think religious books regarding how to calm anxiety can be helpful too.

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on August 02, 2012
at 03:58 AM

I wonder why this was downvoted? All those supps are good. The book sounds good too. +1 for balance

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on August 02, 2012
at 03:57 AM

low thyroid is also a major cause/contributor to anxiety.

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on August 02, 2012
at 02:58 AM

Not silly I would say essential for some, to get a different outlook on life especially a more positive one. It helped me.

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on August 02, 2012
at 01:48 AM

lol Colin said Meditation (not medication) Then again I say try the former and if its not enough, add the latter! And yeah SSRIs long term are not good and were never in fact studied or meant to be used forever. They are know to desensitize nerve ending (thus you need to increase the dose aka "Prozac Poopout" 5htp, which increases serotonin, rather than hold it in the synapse, is so much better - imo.

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on August 02, 2012
at 01:16 AM

Shawn you may want to look at switching to 5htp and Gaba (penibut) as SSRIs eventually desensitize the nerve endings and do not actually increase the amount of serotonin like 5htp does. And no horrific side effects. I had horrible luck (side effects) with SSRIs but the 5htp as been a miracle.

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on August 02, 2012
at 01:10 AM

Love Natural Calm too but be careful of loose stools from too much.

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on August 02, 2012
at 12:25 AM

I second the vitamin D, very important in anxiety issues. Also maybe some calming tea, deep breathing, fewer carbs, and positive thinking. I know people think that books like the secret are all silly but a combo of all of these helped control my crazy anxiety attacks.

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on August 01, 2012
at 11:56 PM

Oh! I almost forgot. Vitamin D3 supplementation. It made ALL the difference. I take 5000 IU/day on the days I don't spend much time outside.

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at 11:55 PM

I suffered from very severe depression for a while. Medication also helped me pull myself out of it. I was young and didn't really know how to go about helping myself. SSRI's helped me clear my head enough to get on the right track, so to speak. It can be helpful for some people. Don't stay on them forever of course; just consider it a stepping stone/learning experience. ^_^

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on August 02, 2012
at 02:05 AM

The Chemistry of Calm: A Powerful, Drug-Free Plan to Quiet Your Fears and Overcome Your Anxiety - http://www.amazon.com/The-Chemistry-Calm-Powerful-Drug-Free/dp/1439129061

The psychiatrist who wrote this suggests: Vit D, B complex, fish oil, magnesium, L-theanine, 5HTP, rhodiola, and passionflower. Also recommended but secondary - GABA, Ashwaganda. Some of these you should take everyday for maintenance, and others, like the theanine, you take when anxiety strikes for relief within 20 mins. He no longer recommends ginseng or kava because some people have negative reactions.

He strongly believes also in meditation or biofeedback, such as with an emwave.

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on August 02, 2012
at 03:58 AM

I wonder why this was downvoted? All those supps are good. The book sounds good too. +1 for balance

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on August 03, 2012
at 04:45 PM

Meditation is free and amazing. I wasn't a believer until I made it a habit!

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on August 02, 2012
at 02:59 AM

I had some mega anxiety along with panic attacks and when I went to get a work up, I was found to be vitamin D deficient, and my doctor guessed that I was likely magnesium deficient (though a blood serum test for this usually doesn't indicate a deficiency), so I started taking D3 and magnesium and it changed my world. Also, I stopped eating crap and being so stressed out about work (I was really grinding away too much). The crap food and the stress were probably a deadly combo for me, but eating real food, supplementing D3 and magnesium made a huge difference. I hope you find what works for you. I have also read there is some correlation between low testosterone and anxiety, and I was also tested to have low testosterone (I am female).

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on August 02, 2012
at 03:57 AM

low thyroid is also a major cause/contributor to anxiety.

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on August 03, 2012
at 08:22 AM

+1 for magnesium and D3! They helped me as well

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on August 03, 2012
at 03:29 AM

When I go too low carb, my emotions go haywire, and are predominately extraordinarily negative!

I get super anxious, depressed, and paranoid. But then, part of the anxious, paranoid depression manifests in the form of "AHHH!!!!! AM I A FAT WHALE????" (I'm 18, give me a break). So, the cycle continues, I stay low carb, and sink further into the abyss.

Basically, try upping your carbs. And getting sleep. Sleep is good. :)

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on August 06, 2012
at 04:58 AM

maybe that's why I'm going all funny these days

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on August 02, 2012
at 03:45 AM

  1. Get in community. Be with people. Love people.

  2. Eat/drink healthy - lower sugar intake, lower caffeine intake, up carbs, and drink water (half your weight in ounces daily)

  3. Get adequate restful sleep. Try to get to bed @ 10:00pm - 10:30pm for best restful sleep.

  4. Exercise - get outside, walk, and be amazed at God's creation.

  5. Get the "Linden Method". I got the download version ($99). It has helped me TONS! http://www.panic-anxiety.com http://www.stopworry.com http://www.charles-linden.com

  6. When feeling depressed or anxious - take organic Niacin (vitamin B3). But read and follow the link below first.

http://www.foodmatters.tv/_webapp_417125/How_to_Take_Niacin_-Vitamin_B3-_for_Depression_and_Anxiety

Let me know if it helps and cures your anxiety/depression!

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on August 03, 2012
at 08:23 AM

I found the pillars of the Linden method outlined online (for free) and got the gist. (:

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on August 01, 2012
at 11:34 PM

Hi Vicki,

You might want to pick up the book Emotional Equations by Chip Connelly. The equation for anxiety is Anxiety=Uncertainty x Powerlessness. So, the key is to influence one or both of the variables in the equation. You didn't say anything about your situation, but consider these variables and what is in your control and how you can change it. Some strategies for managing anxiety: 1) stay in the present moment 2) create an anxiety balance sheet 3) put a time limit on your anxiety 4) play things out to the worst case scenario and think about what the likelihood is of any of those things happening. Hope this helps...

Anna www.findyourbestthinking.com

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on August 02, 2012
at 12:26 AM

I second the vitamin D, very important in anxiety issues. Also maybe some calming tea, deep breathing, fewer carbs, and positive thinking. I know people think that books like the secret are all silly but a combo of all of these helped control my crazy anxiety attacks.

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on August 02, 2012
at 02:58 AM

Not silly I would say essential for some, to get a different outlook on life especially a more positive one. It helped me.

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on August 02, 2012
at 10:41 PM

I don't think it's silly at all! If you're religious at all, I think religious books regarding how to calm anxiety can be helpful too.

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on August 03, 2012
at 08:21 AM

Interesting! I'm not sure how many carbs you consume, but I found going too low-carb made my anxiety worse.

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on August 03, 2012
at 08:39 PM

Well, I wouldn't say cut them out completely but under 50 is perfect for me. Everyone is different. I have pcos so too many carbs are really bad for my anxiety.

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on August 02, 2012
at 11:33 PM

I had a few issues a year ago and saw a counsellor. He was brilliant. They don't solve your problems for you, they just help you come to your own conclusions. I wouldn't stop with this avenue. Sometimes I would walk away thinking I had just wasted an hour, but would see the benefit in five days time.

He recommended Fish Oil. About 6 caps a day.

I will leave you with this quote. I only stumbled across it a few days ago, but it really hit a chord with me.

"Worry is the stress caused by things out of our control, and 80% of the time they never happen."

So basically, 80% of the time we are worrying about nothing.

Made me realise that rather than spend 100% of the time worrying about stuff that won't happen 80% of the time, you're better off just doing something important and changing focus to deal with the 20% when it actually happens.

I don't know your situation Vicki, but I hope this helps you as much as it helps me.

Best of Luck. Taking an extended weekend is a great first step.

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on August 02, 2012
at 10:40 PM

Thank you so much everyone for your wonderful and supportive responses. I have taken a day off work to allow myself to reset a little over the weeken. I will be heading to the health food store to get more 5-htp as I ran out a few months ago, I'll also grab some magnesium and vitamin D as I am sure I am deficient. Then I'll throw in some tougher exercise a couple of times a week and increase my carbs and animal fats!

I'll let you know how feeling in a week or so, unless this a miracle cure which has me Feeling better overnight! Again, thanks for your wonderful and supportive feedback

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on August 02, 2012
at 11:12 PM

Good for you Vicki! Be sure and take the 5htp with food as it can cause nausea on an empty tummy. Good luck to you.

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on August 02, 2012
at 01:11 AM

Increase your magnesium by a LOT is the best tip I can give you.

Taking 5-HTP is also a good idea.

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on August 02, 2012
at 12:59 AM

After trying all sorts of natural stuff I ended up having to resort to a beta blocker for physical symptoms (works great) and an SSRI to get my mind to calm down. Some people no matter how hard they try with diet/meditation/CBT/etc can only get so far and need medication to help things along.

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on August 02, 2012
at 01:16 AM

Shawn you may want to look at switching to 5htp and Gaba (penibut) as SSRIs eventually desensitize the nerve endings and do not actually increase the amount of serotonin like 5htp does. And no horrific side effects. I had horrible luck (side effects) with SSRIs but the 5htp as been a miracle.

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on August 01, 2012
at 11:58 PM

You could try Natural Calm magnesium supplement. Magnesium works in our bodies to calm nerves and relax muscles. I have found it to be very helpful. Best of luck to you in getting through this difficult time in your life.

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on August 02, 2012
at 01:10 AM

Love Natural Calm too but be careful of loose stools from too much.

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on August 01, 2012
at 11:39 PM

When I went through a challenging time in my life I used meditation, it really helped me get through.

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on August 02, 2012
at 01:48 AM

lol Colin said Meditation (not medication) Then again I say try the former and if its not enough, add the latter! And yeah SSRIs long term are not good and were never in fact studied or meant to be used forever. They are know to desensitize nerve ending (thus you need to increase the dose aka "Prozac Poopout" 5htp, which increases serotonin, rather than hold it in the synapse, is so much better - imo.

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on August 01, 2012
at 11:55 PM

I suffered from very severe depression for a while. Medication also helped me pull myself out of it. I was young and didn't really know how to go about helping myself. SSRI's helped me clear my head enough to get on the right track, so to speak. It can be helpful for some people. Don't stay on them forever of course; just consider it a stepping stone/learning experience. ^_^

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on August 01, 2012
at 11:24 PM

I recently listened to two podcosts with Julia Ross author of the "Mood Cure." moodcure.com You can listen to one of those podcasts here: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/undergroundwellness/2010/01/07/the-mood-cure-with-julia-ross

Basically she tells us that we need nutrient dense protein given to our brains to supply the necessary amino acids needed for our "feel good hormones". Animal protein is the best source as it contains all the necessary ingredients.

I would also suggest taking a vitamin B-complex supplement. Other supplemental support a product by Biotics: De-STRESS, Bio-GGG-B and Li-Zyme

I am assuming you are already eating good source quality animal protein, so I am giving additional recommendations. I have been making it habit to eat animal protein w/ every meal. I sometimes have been known to only eat fat/veggies...

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at 03:37 PM

1) Start the day with 20-30 min. of mediation. Try this one: http://www.themeditationpodcast.com/episode_02.html

2) After your meditation do high intensity exercise including some weight training. Use the Tabata method or the Little method. 3- 4 days/week.

3) Walk outdoors in the sun - ever day.

4) Try 40 mg./day of Echinacea. See:http://www.ergo-log.com/echinacea-makes-you-carefree.html

5) Repeat # 1 at bed time.

6) Eliminate stimulants - red bull, coffee, etc. Tea can be calming however.

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on August 03, 2012
at 02:10 PM

lots of great advice and suggestions here. Last year around this time I was suffering acute anxiety and panic attacks, and can share what worked for me. Many of the suggestions may be redundant to what has been posted here but merit repeating.

The person who posted Anxiety=Uncertainty x Powerlessness is SPOT ON. Find a way to objectively view your life situation to identify what causal relationships there may be and slowly begin to unravel them. A support group or therapist can help guide you.

Emotional toxicity resulting from life situations can may be tough to quickly change for any number of reasons. One thing that will provide some immediate relief is to start building a base from the factors you can exert some control over, like the following:

  • have your vitamin D levels checked and supplement to bring them up to normal levels if they are low
  • get checked for Candida Albicans overgrowth and also take corrective measures through diet and supplementation - Paleo diet works wonders for clearing candida, especially if you avoid fruit
  • give your nervous system a break, stop all caffeine and alcohol use, seek therapy or support if this is a real problem for you
  • get outside in the sunlight, exercise, even if it is a 15-minute walk a few times a week
  • get quality and consistent sleep
  • improve your diet (seems like something you are already doing)

START SLOWLY but begin to affect change and the tougher problems will come into focus and begin to clear

LOVE YOURSELF. The most important person is you

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on August 02, 2012
at 03:21 AM

High intensity training.

Your body is responding to the urgent messages from your limbic brain, which is commanding "flight or fight".

The anxiety you're feeling is the energy your limbic brain has provided for you to act. Dissipate this energy through exercise and this will recalibrate your anxiety.

With each exhaustive session, provided there is no further adverse change in your circumstances, you should experience a little less anxiety.

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on August 02, 2012
at 02:33 AM

As stated above, vitamin d & magnesium. When I drop my carbs below 40 grams I start getting really mellow. Though this might be bad timing for low carb flu.

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on August 02, 2012
at 12:40 AM

I experience considerable (social)anxiety from time to time. I find that fruits make me more antsy. Not exercising also gets me down and panicky(when ppl are close). Also have been trying this low food reward thing and it seems to give me some sense of ease(im thinking its the elimination of salt). Diaphragmatic breathing also helps get me through those awkward congested train rides. Hope you feel better.

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on August 01, 2012
at 11:52 PM

Do you mean only emotional anxiety, or is it coupled with the physical symptoms of an anxiety attack? I used to have anxiety attacks (w/physical symptoms) all the time. I had no idea what was going on until I went into the ER one night. I was shaking, sweating, couldn't sit still, my pulse was skyrocketing... sooo they gave me some xanax and sent me home. Thanks modern medicine! The xanax did help at first, but what really helped me get things under control was doing some research and coming to a better understand of what was going on. I had no idea that my mind could have such a profound impact on my body. I used to think that because I was physically distressed that something was physically wrong with me. Not so. To this day, if I feel myself start to get anxious, I give myself a little mental pep talk. "Nothing bad is happening to you, you're fine, it's just an anxiety attack. Nothing bad has ever come of it. You're just a little stressed out right now," ... ya know, stuff like that. I'm able to stop them before they start now.

If you're just talking about emotional anxiety specifically, though, I'd advise that you start regularly engaging in an activity that relaxes you (force yourself to do it the first few times if you have to. I know sometimes anxiety and depression go hand in hand... it's hard to get motivated). For me it's walking. Also, you might try to get all of your thoughts out of your head and on paper. Good luck!

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on August 01, 2012
at 11:56 PM

Oh! I almost forgot. Vitamin D3 supplementation. It made ALL the difference. I take 5000 IU/day on the days I don't spend much time outside.

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on August 01, 2012
at 11:37 PM

For me anxiety is not just about food. The following helps immensely -

~ Get some form of exercise everyday - yoga, videos, brisk walking ~ Go outside and see natural light at least once a day ~ Don't drop carbs too low, fruit helps

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on August 06, 2012
at 04:59 AM

what is too low for carbohydrates? I normally get 100-150g a day

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on August 07, 2012
at 02:31 AM

Personally too low is 80g and under - your number may vary

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on August 03, 2012
at 01:41 PM

I'm a long-time anxiety-sufferer. I've eaten Ray Peat stylish diet for a bit over a week now, and my anxiety has pretty much disappeared and I haven't had to use benzodiatsepines during this time.

When I notice slight anxiety, I drink something sugary, like green tea with honey and milk. Also, you might want to add some sugar to your coffee, if you drink any. It seems to prevent caffeine induced anxiety for me. According to Peat, sugar effectively combats against stress.

I only speak from my own experience. It might be that paleo diet is the perfect diet for normal healthy person, but to fix certain existing conditions, some tweaked approach might be needed.

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on August 03, 2012
at 08:19 AM

I'm not sure what you mean when you say 'It's not my problem to fix.' I understand that the external stimuli causing your anxiety are beyond your control, but you can most certainly control the way you respond to stressful situations. The emotions you are feeling are indeed normal, and a feeling of panic is normal when you're immediate danger, but panic attacks are not a 'normal', per se, response to any other stress. I apologize deeply if this sounds at all rude or unsympathetic, but realizing I had control over my emotions and my reactions contributed immensely to the halting of my own panic attacks and depression.

A therapist, and in particular a practitioner of cognitive-behavioral therapy, can help, if only just to give you someone to talk to.

There are lots of programs out there designed to help you manage panic attacks and general anxiety. The Linden Method is helpful, but I wouldn't spend money on it. The basic premise of this method is the elimination of panic attacks by pretending you don't have anxiety at all (it's steeped in CBT as well)--leave your house, go out with friends, put yourself in normal environments and situations you might avoid in your current state. I highly, HIGHLY recommend the program at http://www.paniccenter.net/ --it implements the same steps, generally, as the Linden method, but this program is 100% free. Trust me, it helps!

As far as dietary recommendations go, switching to a paleo lifestyle helped me, of course, and debilitating panic attacks are actually the reason I came to paleo. I found sufficient B12, D3 (from the sun!), and regular exercise (even just walking) to be key. Yoga also seemed to help in the short-term. Some people use Valerian root, St. John's Wort (which is more often recommended for depression), GABA and SAM-e to be helpful, though I can't vouch for the effectiveness of those approaches. I did try Kava Kava and I'd liken it to the calmness felt after consuming a strong cup of manzanilla tea (sorry, for some reason I can't, for the life of me, remember its name in English!). Getting enough magnesium, calcium and potassium pretty much controlled (and controls) my scary heart palpitations. Also, my anxiety heightened when I tried to go very-low-carb, so I always made sure to consume over 100 grams. (I regularly eat around 200g now, though I did also experience some anxiety upon the initial increase.) I avoided caffeine for a few months but experienced no adverse effects on my anxiety when I added it back in again.

I sincerely feel for you. Panic attacks suck, but always remember that they CAN be controlled. I hope some of these suggestions are useful for you! Hang in there and let me know if I can offer any more information (:

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on August 06, 2012
at 04:23 AM

Thanks Mick Jagger - it didn't come across as rude or unsympathetic at all. While the attacks certainly can be controlled, the problem causing the attacks cannot. Thanks for your suggestions, I'm just doing some research on paniccenter now

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on August 03, 2012
at 05:45 AM

Guided meditation from excelatlife.com....the one for when panic is high is very good and works within minutes. I have it on my phone.

For diet, I now always eat about a 50/50 ratio of carb/protein and that seems ideal for me. I eat until satiated and no more.

My attacks were either causing GERD like symptoms or vice versa...I'm also in the process of healing my gut issues.

The positive of all this is that I lost 10 pounds of pure belly and arm fat in 1 month...I think it was all the adrenaline plus calorie restriction because I couldn't eat anything that caused acid.

Edited to also add...www.calmclinic.com the program is worth every penny and works.

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on August 02, 2012
at 09:22 PM

Books by Pema Chodron have really helped me. When Things Fall Apart is a great place to start, and if you google her name you can find short articles to get a sense of her style.

Besides that, a big hug to you Vicki!

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on August 02, 2012
at 01:14 AM

Besides Mindfulness-Based-Meditation (which is researched and proven to work but takes time) there something called EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques) that many people say is helpful.

Additionally I have used (as have many others I know) 5htp and Gaba (in the form of phenibut as it crosses the blood brain barrier where other forms do not)

Thorne makes a product called PharmaGaba

Kavinace by NeuroScience is also very good and has other ingredients besides Gaba.

L-Thenanine is also good.

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on August 01, 2012
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When I'm going through an anxious time I try not to let my carbs drop too low as I personally can get Betty I anxious when I drop my carbs less than 20g a day

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on August 03, 2012
at 06:07 AM

Don't worry so much.

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on August 03, 2012
at 06:45 PM

Wow, so helpful.

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on August 06, 2012
at 07:29 AM

Jeez. Take chill pill.

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