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Hack my diverticulitis?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

I have been 90% paleo for the last year. I have felt great but have not last any weight, which I still hope to do. I am 56 years old, 5'6" and weigh 190 (thus the desire for weightloss!) Just for info: I have suffered in the past with the following issues: Obesity, Prediabetes, Have had 4 major surgeries in 2009-2010 (been pain-med free for over a year but had taken them for at least 5 years pre and post surgeries)--the surgeries were a triple cervical fusion, a lumbar fusion and a rotator cuff total tear repair. In 2006 I suffered a branch retinal vein occlusion and lost much of my sight in that eye and had several laser surgeries on my retina to keep the bleeding down in my eye. I am incontinent. On top of all that, every couple of years, in the spring mostly but once it was in summer, I have the most GAWD AWFUL diverticulitis attacks. Painful, inflamed and they put me out of commission for a good 3 weeks. I end up having to take massive antibiotics which makes me have to rebuild my gut again. I make my own bone broths from grass fed beef and free range chickens, eat sauerkraut and yogurt, take a probiotic (Theralac) for healing my gut.

Now for the hack: I am wondering if the addition of more raw veggies (I grow a great garden and eat lots of salads as soon as the lettuce is up) in the spring and summer could be the reason for my problem. The first time I got it was after going to pick raspberries on a farm (spray free) and eating quite a few while picking but I have not eaten raspberries since then. OR could it be that (I remember) I ate some almonds right before one attack and made some gluten free pancakes (which I do very seldom) with almond and coconut flour. Maybe both? Anyone else have insight as to why this might be happening during these two seasons?

Another question is: What other things can I do to help my gut recover from antibiotics?

Thanks to all!

5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

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on September 19, 2012
at 03:46 PM

Question: did you end up with a colostomy bag? How was your recovery? I wish PH allowed us to message each other!

5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

(658)

on September 19, 2012
at 03:45 PM

Keto--I know what you mean. I look at food like it is going to kill me sometimes. (and it might) I just had another hospital stay and they are saying I need surgery. I live in the Pacific NW and the berries are AMAZING and I can't eat them.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

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on August 12, 2012
at 06:53 AM

Is self victimization paleo?

5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

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on August 04, 2012
at 11:46 PM

Thank you, Crowlover! I will look into it.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on August 04, 2012
at 04:17 AM

Julie I personally would take more given what you are dealing with and the fact that you had to take so many antibiotics (not dissing that. it was necessary). I have been on a ton of antibios in my life and had GI issues and leaky gut and my doc at the time had me to what he called a "full restoration". I know this is not a totally proven science but it sure helped me. For 2 wks I took two packets of VSL3 twice a day, 1 packet a day for 3 more months, now a maintenance using Klaire Labs TheraBiotic. VSL packets have 450bill orgs! Its a great product. http://vsl3.com/

5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

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on August 03, 2012
at 10:57 PM

I am taking 3 Jarrow Dopilus EPS (5 billion organisms per cap) and 2 Theralac (30 billion colonizing CFU/Cap) per day. I also eat bubbies sauerkraut 2x day and yogurt 1x a day.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

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on August 03, 2012
at 12:58 PM

What Crowlover said. Why even bother answering if you aren't open to having a conversation about your answer...

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on August 03, 2012
at 05:11 AM

dshoei it would have helped if you had given a little more explanation as to your Naltrexone recommendation since many many people do not know about low-dose naltrexone. Julie asked you nicely for an explanation about your recommendation and it is indeed off-putting to tell somebody, who is asking politely for clarification, to "bother to inform themselves". You have a bit of a responsibility in your answer to provide more explanation IMO. Clearly Julie (and most others) do not know about this use of Naltrexone. Why not be helpful since you are answering?

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on August 03, 2012
at 05:04 AM

Julie what dose of probiotics are you on? It might take a LOT.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on August 03, 2012
at 05:01 AM

Julie there is a lot of rudeness on this site and I have a low tolerance for it. I do not however view dsohei's answer as rude. More explanation would have helped perhaps. Almost nobody knows about some of the odd uses of Naltrexone. Naltrexone would be a very last resort and not all that many docs would know how to Rx it. I hope you get better soon.

E40b2fc9ddcf702bab9d61d28b8c8440

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on August 02, 2012
at 05:29 PM

It was definitely rude and not taking responsibility is even more rude.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

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on July 10, 2012
at 09:48 PM

i think rudeness is a personal perception, so i guess this just says that you perceived my communication as rude to you, not that i am rude, or that it is rude.

5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

(658)

on July 02, 2012
at 04:47 PM

Did you really have to be so rude?

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

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on June 29, 2012
at 09:38 PM

Low dose naltrexone is used to help modulate the immune system. Regular dose naltrexone has effects to stop alcohol addiction, etc. There are plenty of informative websites if you'd just bother to try to inform yourself.

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on June 27, 2012
at 04:02 AM

Since this is a drug to treat addiction to opiates, I question your recommendation since I said I have not taken pain meds for over a year. Could you give your reasons for this answer?

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on August 03, 2012
at 03:13 AM

I appreciate all of your comments (sans dsohei's- yes, it was rude) Thank you. I just got off the antibiotics and am trying to build up my gut with probiotics amd broth. I feel stronger and am able to eat normally. I just wish I could figure out what sets it off. If it is stress I don't think it helped to get a $15,000 hospital bill (since I have no health insurance. :(

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 03, 2012
at 05:04 AM

Julie what dose of probiotics are you on? It might take a LOT.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 04, 2012
at 04:17 AM

Julie I personally would take more given what you are dealing with and the fact that you had to take so many antibiotics (not dissing that. it was necessary). I have been on a ton of antibios in my life and had GI issues and leaky gut and my doc at the time had me to what he called a "full restoration". I know this is not a totally proven science but it sure helped me. For 2 wks I took two packets of VSL3 twice a day, 1 packet a day for 3 more months, now a maintenance using Klaire Labs TheraBiotic. VSL packets have 450bill orgs! Its a great product. http://vsl3.com/

5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

(658)

on August 04, 2012
at 11:46 PM

Thank you, Crowlover! I will look into it.

5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

(658)

on August 03, 2012
at 10:57 PM

I am taking 3 Jarrow Dopilus EPS (5 billion organisms per cap) and 2 Theralac (30 billion colonizing CFU/Cap) per day. I also eat bubbies sauerkraut 2x day and yogurt 1x a day.

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on June 26, 2012
at 12:37 AM

My diverticulitis seams to be primarily triggered by stress and by being run down. Both bouts I've had that have necessitated medical intervention have been preceded by a very stressful period at work and by constipation. I've realized that I can feel when its coming on by a sort of "stuck" feeling in my gut and I can head it off by getting on top of my constipation (magnesium citrate supplement or worst case senna root tea) and by getting extra sleep. I usually take it as a sign that I'm run down and do everything I can to de-stress and build my energy back up. I don't know if you are open to or have access to acupuncture, but its been very helpful for me. Is the spring/summer particularly stressful for you for any reason?

As for the raw vegetables, I think it depends on your particular constitution. Some people can digest raw vegetables fine, some do better with cooked. I'll eat raw vegetables in the spring and summer, but not in the fall or winter. If your gut is inflamed and predisposed to a diverticulitis attack, lots of raw vegetables could act as an irritant and trigger something, but I don't think they'd be a problem if you were otherwise healthy and well rested.

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on August 02, 2012
at 05:00 PM

Mostly diverticulitis is not diet driven. That being said, poor colon health is a significant part of diverticulitis. Adding more fat to your diet will help with the stools. And at a couple of times a year your instance is not particularlry significant. Improved colon health will help a lot.

Quick history, I'm 31, developed after my first bout of diverticulitis, I was diagnosed with diverticulosis (I was 25 at the time). My condition went from twice a year to every other month to every month in a 3 year span. In 2010 I had primary bowel resection to remove almost 18 inches of bowls. I have been diverticulosis free since then.

5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

(658)

on September 19, 2012
at 03:46 PM

Question: did you end up with a colostomy bag? How was your recovery? I wish PH allowed us to message each other!

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on August 02, 2012
at 04:58 PM

As to the original question - I was happily Paleo from December until June. My daily breakfast of Greek yogurt and sliced almonds suddenly ( in may) became blackberries or raspberries. Also, I was eating a peanut butter - the chunky kind. I would say two to three weeks after blackberry/ raspberry season started, I was admitted to the ER with a micro perforation of a diverticula. A week in hospital, two more weeks of antibiotics after that, and then ANOTHER less severe attack ( antibiotics, but no hospital) 5 weeks later. I am not going anywhere near nuts or berries, and it has made eating rather difficult. Right now I am not allowed fiber, so no veggies at all, but in a few days I go back on high fiber, no seeds. Which means no tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, summersquash, etc. Depressing. But I don't want to risk another perforation.

5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

(658)

on September 19, 2012
at 03:45 PM

Keto--I know what you mean. I look at food like it is going to kill me sometimes. (and it might) I just had another hospital stay and they are saying I need surgery. I live in the Pacific NW and the berries are AMAZING and I can't eat them.

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5aa057aabe02e83299e1e2137eab05e2

on August 02, 2012
at 04:49 PM

I think that you think that rudeness is a personal perception because you probably choose to be rude frequently and don't want to take responsibility for the impact of your statements. You could have said " there are plenty of websites" and left it at that. Adding the gratuitous " if you would just Bother to inform yourself" makes it rude, or obnoxious, or condescending, or any number of other descriptors. Since you made a conscious choice to waste energy typing those words, I have to assume that you choose to sound that way. You may not care that you are rude, but you can't just declare that your rudeness is someone else's problem

E40b2fc9ddcf702bab9d61d28b8c8440

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on August 02, 2012
at 05:29 PM

It was definitely rude and not taking responsibility is even more rude.

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05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on June 26, 2012
at 07:17 AM

try low dose naltrexone...

5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

(658)

on June 27, 2012
at 04:02 AM

Since this is a drug to treat addiction to opiates, I question your recommendation since I said I have not taken pain meds for over a year. Could you give your reasons for this answer?

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on June 29, 2012
at 09:38 PM

Low dose naltrexone is used to help modulate the immune system. Regular dose naltrexone has effects to stop alcohol addiction, etc. There are plenty of informative websites if you'd just bother to try to inform yourself.

5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

(658)

on July 02, 2012
at 04:47 PM

Did you really have to be so rude?

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:48 PM

i think rudeness is a personal perception, so i guess this just says that you perceived my communication as rude to you, not that i am rude, or that it is rude.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on August 03, 2012
at 12:58 PM

What Crowlover said. Why even bother answering if you aren't open to having a conversation about your answer...

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 03, 2012
at 05:01 AM

Julie there is a lot of rudeness on this site and I have a low tolerance for it. I do not however view dsohei's answer as rude. More explanation would have helped perhaps. Almost nobody knows about some of the odd uses of Naltrexone. Naltrexone would be a very last resort and not all that many docs would know how to Rx it. I hope you get better soon.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 03, 2012
at 05:11 AM

dshoei it would have helped if you had given a little more explanation as to your Naltrexone recommendation since many many people do not know about low-dose naltrexone. Julie asked you nicely for an explanation about your recommendation and it is indeed off-putting to tell somebody, who is asking politely for clarification, to "bother to inform themselves". You have a bit of a responsibility in your answer to provide more explanation IMO. Clearly Julie (and most others) do not know about this use of Naltrexone. Why not be helpful since you are answering?

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on August 12, 2012
at 06:53 AM

Is self victimization paleo?

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