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c diff and diet

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 08, 2013 at 9:59 PM

well i'm in the hospital with c diff and started on flagyl and antibiotics. i've been on all liquids for 3 days (last meal tuesday night) and doctors aren't talking about letting me go home anytime soon.

does anyone know any paleo foods i can eat when i get home that won't cause me problems? i never want to see chicken broth again because that's all i'm drinking (also some juices).

the doctors haven't discussed diet with me but from what i've read online about c diff diets, i'm pretty sure they will tell me soft starches like oatmeal and pasta. i don't eat starches at all so i'm not sure what to do.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on January 20, 2014
at 11:09 PM

hey PG! i've been testing negative since july, i believe. it took a while to get rid of. what worked was doing vanco for almost two months straight.

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on January 20, 2014
at 08:49 PM

hey Joanna how is your C diff unfortunately I just contracted it also and was looking for some advice.

85f3d37665864b9f99109b34edbabe23

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on July 08, 2013
at 11:53 PM

Hi Joanna, My doc. said I had drug-resistant c. diff., and to stop all abx., including Vanco. Yes, bad side effects as well. According to my gastro., fecal transplants have a 90% success rate, when done correctly. I had to follow a certain protocol. Based on a very recent colonoscopy, the fecal transplants did work, as gastro. found no further evidence of the c. diff.!!! I still have bad diarrhea though, which may be residual, or something else. Fleet enemas for fecal transplants are fine, but you must do it a certain way. Margaret

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on July 08, 2013
at 03:35 AM

do you have c diff Margaret? not sure what else to do to keep it away. i'm getting sick of buying all these probiotics and just wasting money.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on July 07, 2013
at 08:50 PM

hey Margaret! yes, been taking s. boullardi and bacillus coagulans since February. still on coconut kefir and goat's kefir. I just stopped my third course of vancomycin because i'm having a lot of strange symptoms like hand/face neuropathy, tremors, dizziness, heat intolerance. I figure vanco could be the cause. I did 8 fecal transplants last summer but I got a lot worse on it. I am hesitant to do it again without getting a doctor to do it. I had previously done all of them at home with fleet enemas.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on June 05, 2013
at 08:19 PM

I've been taking sacchara b now for a few months but c diff keeps coming back. I don't think it's a strong enough strain against it. I recently read about bacillus coagulans so I will try that for the c diff overgrowth.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on June 05, 2013
at 08:18 PM

hey Eugenia. I've been making kefir and love it now! it sadly doesn't keep the c diff away. I've had to take flagyl once and vancomycin twice now and it's still not killing it!

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on February 11, 2013
at 12:16 AM

thanks chad. just ordered some a few days ago. had a terrible reaction to florastor so i'm trying a different brand.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on February 11, 2013
at 12:15 AM

thanks eugenia. i've been drinking coconut kefir for a while so i'll up that as soon as i can.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on February 11, 2013
at 12:14 AM

my doctors think it's from the drug humira. i started it about 3.5 weeks ago and that's when my symptoms started. first it was severe gas and abdominal distention and now it's diarrhea, pain, tons of blood loss, high fever, and no appetite.

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on February 09, 2013
at 12:57 PM

Paleo foods that won't cause problems - boiled and mashed carrots with coconut oil.

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on February 09, 2013
at 06:21 AM

I am so sorry! How did it happen - just out of the blue? Were there any symptoms?

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on February 08, 2013
at 11:19 PM

Feel better :).

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on February 09, 2013
at 03:38 AM

You really need to start taking Saccharomyces Boulardii ASAP. You can take it concurrently with antibiotics as it is a probiotic yeast. I took it when I had C Diff and I immediately started getting better (I also took flagyl). You can shoot for about 20 billion cfu a day, and continue taking for about 1 month after finishing antibiotics. There are quite a few very positive studies on SacB and c diff. Best of luck.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on February 11, 2013
at 12:16 AM

thanks chad. just ordered some a few days ago. had a terrible reaction to florastor so i'm trying a different brand.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on June 05, 2013
at 08:19 PM

I've been taking sacchara b now for a few months but c diff keeps coming back. I don't think it's a strong enough strain against it. I recently read about bacillus coagulans so I will try that for the c diff overgrowth.

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on February 08, 2013
at 10:14 PM

The BEST food against CDiff is home-made goat kefir. It is 10x more potent than yogurt, since it has trillions of live active bacteria and yeasts in a single cup, and it also has more species than yogurt. In a recent study they found that Kefir can kill CDiff: http://www.minnesotamedicine.com/PastIssues/PastIssues2009/July2009/Clinical-Bakken-July2009.aspx If you don't have kefir grains at home already, buy some immediately from Amazon. Also, buy commercial kefir until the one from Amazon arrives and populates enough to be useful (2 weeks time). Do not buy powder or dry kefir, make sure it's live, fresh "grains". Make sure you use plastic strainers and utensils for it (it dies on metal), and 2 mason jars. You must make it at home for full potency, the commercial one only has 10-12 bacteria instead of 43 bacteria and yeasts, along kefiran (another substance found only in the home-made version). Ferment kefir for 24 hours to remove all lactose from it, and add nuts, berries and some raw honey in it to make it palatable.

Even if you have decided to not do any other dairy, home-made goat kefir is safe IMHO -- unless you're horribly allergic to dairy. Avoid gluten and oats at all costs. Tubers/fruits are ok. Try to have 1-2 cups of kefir per day until CDiff goes away, then you can reduce it to 1 cup a day. Start slowly with it though.

If you're very allergic to dairy, you can try water kefir, or coconut kefir. Water kefir has fewer microbes than milk kefir though (some of the species like the full fat milk better).

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on February 11, 2013
at 12:15 AM

thanks eugenia. i've been drinking coconut kefir for a while so i'll up that as soon as i can.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on June 05, 2013
at 08:18 PM

hey Eugenia. I've been making kefir and love it now! it sadly doesn't keep the c diff away. I've had to take flagyl once and vancomycin twice now and it's still not killing it!

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85f3d37665864b9f99109b34edbabe23

on July 07, 2013
at 07:55 PM

Yes. Take S. boullardi and bacillus coagulans. Try probiotic retention enemas. Drink coconut water kefir as well. Take different strains of abx every two hours.

Have you thought of doing a fecal transplant? My gastroenterologist said it has a 90% cure rate for c. diff.

Oh, and Florastor has dairy in it. You can order dairy-free s. boullardi. It's pretty important for c. diff.

Margaret

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on July 08, 2013
at 03:35 AM

do you have c diff Margaret? not sure what else to do to keep it away. i'm getting sick of buying all these probiotics and just wasting money.

85f3d37665864b9f99109b34edbabe23

(10)

on July 08, 2013
at 11:53 PM

Hi Joanna, My doc. said I had drug-resistant c. diff., and to stop all abx., including Vanco. Yes, bad side effects as well. According to my gastro., fecal transplants have a 90% success rate, when done correctly. I had to follow a certain protocol. Based on a very recent colonoscopy, the fecal transplants did work, as gastro. found no further evidence of the c. diff.!!! I still have bad diarrhea though, which may be residual, or something else. Fleet enemas for fecal transplants are fine, but you must do it a certain way. Margaret

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on July 07, 2013
at 08:50 PM

hey Margaret! yes, been taking s. boullardi and bacillus coagulans since February. still on coconut kefir and goat's kefir. I just stopped my third course of vancomycin because i'm having a lot of strange symptoms like hand/face neuropathy, tremors, dizziness, heat intolerance. I figure vanco could be the cause. I did 8 fecal transplants last summer but I got a lot worse on it. I am hesitant to do it again without getting a doctor to do it. I had previously done all of them at home with fleet enemas.

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