This piece really got me rankled when I heard it this morning. You can read the article, but I recommend the audio if you're really looking to get a bee in you're bonnet.
Or perhaps you agree with this agenda-driven fluff. Yes? No?
Have you found any pain-relief through dietary changes? Got a story?
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on May 10, 2011
at 03:59 AM
I will avoid the audio, since I don't feel like raging about stupidity in the general news arena...I'm trying to keep my stress down and fix my cortisol levels...
So for over 29 years I have done the standard american diet (I just turned 30). Sometimes it was slightly different with weight watchers, counting calories, etc. I'm talking about cereal for breakfast, protein shakes, meat, lots of carbs (white rice, pasta, bread) and fat. Oh, and sugar content through the roof.
I have had joint/back pain and inflammation for the past 4-5 years, and it always seemed to get worse. On a bad day I thought 800mg of ibuprofen was awesome. Was seriously considering going to the doctor and getting something a bit stronger, since there was times that even that didn't work.
I originally started primal blueprint about 75 days ago. I really got on the paleo wagon about 60 days ago, after realizing that I had a decent allergy to milk (or what at least appears to be inflammation).
Since switching, I've gone from having headaches 6-10 times a week to an odd one every 14-15 days. My joint pain is completely gone. My back pain flares up every once in a while with high stress or an occasional cheat meal. I find that I have to stay wheat/gluten free, otherwise my back doesn't like me at all.
I think that scientists have a hard time understanding how much inflammation and diet influences pain (well, at least for me). I fixed my omega 3/6 balance (yeah, I do the Robb Wolf method) and I have no swelling or inflammation to speak of. I can actually feel the joints/bones in my knees/elbows/wrists/ankles since the swelling has gone down, I move differently, and I feel great. On SAD, I had no changes in movement with glucosamine, so I wasn't sure what was causing the pain. I may be 30, but at times I felt like I was 60.
Oh, and with my inflammation gone, my allergies went away too! My doctor is surprised, but happy for me!
on May 10, 2011
at 04:20 AM
I have had fibro myalgia since I was a kid and have been on numerous diets/etc for years (I'm 40, well educated, and health conscious, so I've explored a number of diets/eliminations for a very long time now, and stuck to them - have not been on SAD for the last 10+ years) and I can say that no diet or supplement has cured my fibro. Not paleo, not low carb, not anything. The day I start thinking dairy elimination has cured my muscle aches, I wake up the next in a massive flare-up.
Certainly, it depends on what your ailment is, but I have found no rhyme or reason to my fibro flare-ups, nor have I seen anything convincing from my fibro network friends or in any studies that suggest there are true dietary cures for fibro myalgia, so no bee in my bonnet, other than they don't really address pain specifically, just generally, and there is a big difference between things like arthritis, fibro (which includes repetitive use syndrome and can include chronic fatigue, but both of those can be from other things, too, migraines and other problems), especially when the article states "Cimperman says there's no question that what we put in our mouths ??? and how much of it ??? has a big influence on our health. But no one diet has been shown to prevent inflammatory-linked diseases." This is true - we may FEEL a certain way from digesting some things and not others (or some of you do while I maybe don't) but, the headline is right... the science (as in: journaled redundant studies) isn't there.
Nothing to get upset at the story about - it's just that we're all still in the very early stages of understanding nutrition. Homo sapiens have been around for a LOT longer than nutrition studies, which at best have been over the last 50 years, and the earliest studies were rubbish. The article story is stating that little is documented, and given the time frame of Home sapiens vs. nutritional studies, I'd say that's a very correct assessment.
We're on our own, folks. Get used to it.
on May 11, 2011
at 01:06 AM
i can only speak from my own experience - I know PAIN - the pain I've suffered in the past 5-7 years has made me wish for death on a daily basis, until last summer. I had to discontinue my meds for bowel resection surgery (for the 2nd time) - I have been disabled and placed on disability by pain for approx 5 yrs - after surgery (in hosp for 5+ wks) I came out and my son led me on a campaign to start paleo - started in Feb, NOONE will convince me that diet can't effect pain! My RA symptoms have vanished (a few aches now and then to keep me motivated) I've discontinued the medication for Barrett's esophagus, I was using Enbrel 2 injections a wk for the RA - I'm essentially med-free now for the first time in 7 years! I have a pending surgery for another hernia repair this summer - I'm unable to exercise strenuously and cannot lift weights over a few lbs - so I walk regularly - i've dropped about 25 lbs and am at a good weight (5'8" - 158lbs) I dropped 2 inches in height over these last few yrs. - perhaps most significant is the change in depression - I've always experienced it to some degree, but since a cancer diagnosis 7 yrs ago - and associated depression as well as the intolerable pain over these last 5-7 yrs I've really been off/on suicidal for 3-4 yrs - Not so now- and I can only attribute that to paleo - so BullPucky to NPR - I'll write a testimonial after I've completed a yr on this - and I get through my (hopefully final operation) this summer!
on May 10, 2011
at 05:46 PM
I found that cutting out gluten from my diet made a huge improvement in the widespread pain caused by fibromyalgia. Cutting out sugar and other grains has also helped with bloating and fluid retention. My fatigue and migraines are also better, but I have to be very conscious about over-activity, stress, and nutritional pitfalls.
Most of the scientific tests try to look at one variable independent of the others. I believe it is the synergy of good fats, lowish carbs, optimal sleep, and other Paleo minded practices that are so beneficial in turning health around.
on May 10, 2011
at 04:09 AM
The migraines I've had for 30 years have become very rare. My gallbladder pain is gone. Disabling menstrual cramps are gone.
My 11-y.o. son, who has also been paleo for a couple months, no longer has the back pain that has plagued him for the last couple of years. I suspect it was a gluten issue.
on May 11, 2011
at 12:11 AM
I heard this one on the radio yesterday morning. At the end is the (literally) money quote:
??But they warn that diet is meant to enhance, not replace treatments that have been shown to work??
Then I was cursing at the radio, "it's the other way around!". Don't you dare take health into your own hands, you have to buy drugs! won't anyone think of the poor doctors?
on May 10, 2011
at 03:26 AM
They are correct, without realizing why. Making one or two dietary changes to a SAD diet has a tiny chance of improving pain. Why would they think that popping a couple fish oils pills could counteract an ocean of omega 6? Making a wholesale change to paleo on the other hand...
Here's a thread with pain/diet topics people on here are interested in. Feel free to list more! http://paleohacks.com/questions/28181/paleo-and-pain-which-issues-are-you-interested-in-nightshades-bone-broths-pu#axzz1LuSRMpx2