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[Meta] This isn't strictly paleo - but it is a very important Animal Cruelty issue in Australia

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Created November 06, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Live export disaster in Pakistan

Live animal export is an inherently cruel trade, which is why it is opposed by every animal protection organisation throughout the world. It continues for one reason only: profit. What might happen, if exported animals were deemed 'unfit' for human consumption and lost all of their economic value? The reality will shock you.

I warn that the images a quite graphic. http://www.animalsaustralia.org/take_action/live-export-disaster-pakistan/

Firstly, what in your opinion is the answer to this disaster? Secondly, if you too are appalled, please follow through and act. I know we are all meat eaters here, but I also hope there are alot of animal lovers too.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on November 07, 2012
at 12:45 AM

Matt: You disagree with what, exactly? The length of time it takes for loss of consciousness and cardiac arrest to take place following the severing of the carotid artery? That this is brutally cruel treatment? Or do you take issue just because..? -- I'll tell you what I take issue with: people taking issue for no reason other than to take issue.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on November 07, 2012
at 12:28 AM

Matt: You disagree with what, exactly? The length of time it takes for loss of consciousness and cardiac arrest to take place following the severing of the carotid artery? That this is brutally cruel treatment? Or do you take issue just because?

87b7d250ea30415ed4c1afd809f4053f

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on November 06, 2012
at 02:06 PM

Cutting an animal's throat and letting it die over several hours IS inhumane. Dragging animal by one leg, all of that, IS inhumane. Death row murderers are treated better. Killing them & dumping the bodies is weird. The Australian Government did a quick switcharoo with the paperwork when Bahrain rejected the animals, and had them dumped on Pakistan. The Pakistan Authorities thought the animals were diseased & killed them (The animals should never have left Australia. The Australian Government should be charged with animal cruelty-it is their actions that allow this to continue to happen.

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on November 06, 2012
at 02:02 PM

Disagree, but whatever. We won't see eye to eye on this.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on November 06, 2012
at 02:00 PM

there's a lot more going on than the method of killing but do you have any idea how long it takes for consciousness to cease? a bolt gun is instantaneous.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on November 06, 2012
at 02:00 PM

Were there problems with the whole situation? Yes, but it's simply presented one-sided to the ignorant. I take issue with that.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on November 06, 2012
at 01:57 PM

Slaughter is never a pleasant thing, but necessary. Most people have no idea what's involved and that's quite apparent from the POV presented in this video. It's a propaganda piece designed to prey upon the ignorant.

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on November 06, 2012
at 01:54 PM

First of all, I take issue with the idea that cutting the carotid is inhumane. Rapid loss of consciousness results from lack of oxygenated blood. Unlike say, a bolt gun which only stuns and scrambles the poor animal's brain.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on November 06, 2012
at 01:45 PM

perhaps you could explain what the other side of the story is?

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on November 06, 2012
at 01:43 PM

Watch it with your volume turned down. That doesn't show any side of the story then, just what is actually happening. Still looks heartless to me.

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on November 06, 2012
at 12:50 PM

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on November 06, 2012
at 01:03 PM

Thanks for raising this.. How do we reconcile the industrialised hyper-neolithic breeding, medicating and slaughtering of intelligent animals to sustain the gluttonous appetites and titanic girths of the increasingly obese and the greed of those who profit?

And before the inevitable torrent of downvotes, do take some time to think about it, as there's absolutely nothing paleo about the modern meat industry.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on November 06, 2012
at 01:41 PM

A completely one-sided and rather ignorant story.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on November 06, 2012
at 02:02 PM

Disagree, but whatever. We won't see eye to eye on this.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on November 06, 2012
at 01:57 PM

Slaughter is never a pleasant thing, but necessary. Most people have no idea what's involved and that's quite apparent from the POV presented in this video. It's a propaganda piece designed to prey upon the ignorant.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on November 06, 2012
at 02:00 PM

Were there problems with the whole situation? Yes, but it's simply presented one-sided to the ignorant. I take issue with that.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 07, 2012
at 12:45 AM

Matt: You disagree with what, exactly? The length of time it takes for loss of consciousness and cardiac arrest to take place following the severing of the carotid artery? That this is brutally cruel treatment? Or do you take issue just because..? -- I'll tell you what I take issue with: people taking issue for no reason other than to take issue.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 06, 2012
at 02:00 PM

there's a lot more going on than the method of killing but do you have any idea how long it takes for consciousness to cease? a bolt gun is instantaneous.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 07, 2012
at 12:28 AM

Matt: You disagree with what, exactly? The length of time it takes for loss of consciousness and cardiac arrest to take place following the severing of the carotid artery? That this is brutally cruel treatment? Or do you take issue just because?

87b7d250ea30415ed4c1afd809f4053f

(968)

on November 06, 2012
at 02:06 PM

Cutting an animal's throat and letting it die over several hours IS inhumane. Dragging animal by one leg, all of that, IS inhumane. Death row murderers are treated better. Killing them & dumping the bodies is weird. The Australian Government did a quick switcharoo with the paperwork when Bahrain rejected the animals, and had them dumped on Pakistan. The Pakistan Authorities thought the animals were diseased & killed them (The animals should never have left Australia. The Australian Government should be charged with animal cruelty-it is their actions that allow this to continue to happen.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on November 06, 2012
at 01:54 PM

First of all, I take issue with the idea that cutting the carotid is inhumane. Rapid loss of consciousness results from lack of oxygenated blood. Unlike say, a bolt gun which only stuns and scrambles the poor animal's brain.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 06, 2012
at 01:45 PM

perhaps you could explain what the other side of the story is?

87b7d250ea30415ed4c1afd809f4053f

(968)

on November 06, 2012
at 01:43 PM

Watch it with your volume turned down. That doesn't show any side of the story then, just what is actually happening. Still looks heartless to me.

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