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How do you deal with the anger about being misled, lied to by authorities about what is healthful?

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Created April 24, 2011 at 4:37 PM

I am on day 46 and gathering benefits galore. After years of attempting Macrobiotics, low fat low calorie eating and the raw vegan way I became deeply frustrated and quite unwell. I surrendered and was lead to a woman who resolved many of my own problems with the Paleo Solution. I was finally able to hear the facts and gave it a try. I am profoundly pleased to be making such headway in reclaiming my health and life in such a short time. I knew and had followed Dr Atkin's diet before that with good results but really bad constipation that I did not know how to fix almost 30 years ago. So, I was easily convinced that I had been wrong to ever do Atkins and went to Weight Watchers... I feel this grinding anger with the misinformation that was foisted upon me and most of the people I know, about nutrition since the mid seventies. How do you cope with how ignorant and mislead our people have been/continue to be by our government, so many of the doctors and by the food industry?

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 01, 2011
at 05:05 AM

Anti-statist AND anti-social? Makes sense.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on April 26, 2011
at 02:57 PM

"It's important to not only heal your body but to also heal your soul and mind from the past damage." Bravo! I agree. The two have to go in tandem.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on April 26, 2011
at 02:56 PM

"It's important to not only heal your body but to also heal your soul and mind from the past damage." Bravo!

09e3a4b532dd8898d8eee23d1d8e121c

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on April 25, 2011
at 04:07 AM

Great thinking... but not an answer to my question. How does one stop grasping anger is the question.

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on April 25, 2011
at 03:45 AM

nice. very nice.

C0cf19329f850011e66d1ccfa7d10896

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on April 25, 2011
at 03:44 AM

the journey is amazing.. and continues to be.

C0cf19329f850011e66d1ccfa7d10896

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on April 25, 2011
at 03:43 AM

as you go further, and understand more, I am sure the steam with just be boiling over. Drugs, ADA, AHA, how it can continue, but also how so many can blindly follow is shocking. I loved reading the debate between Dr k and Dr. Rosedale on this site.. two doctors who clearly do not follow what the medical industry would like them to teach.

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on April 25, 2011
at 12:49 AM

I researched every choice I made to the best of my non-scientist ability at the time, so no, I have no regrets about that.

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on April 25, 2011
at 12:47 AM

"In the end taking responsibility for MY participation in what happened was what lead to true healing." Thank you.

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on April 24, 2011
at 11:11 PM

I understand your point on this. It is frustrating and sad to see overweight and unhealthy children when we know that they are merely eating what their parents provide, encourage or allow.

535633b57c4a4940d1e913e7a12ee791

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on April 24, 2011
at 09:46 PM

good point Thomas

6670b38baf0aae7f4d8ac2463ddc37c0

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on April 24, 2011
at 08:28 PM

Great points Jack.

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on April 24, 2011
at 05:53 PM

So you're anti-statist? Do you align yourself with any thinker or tradition, or are you just going on your own study or common sense? Just wondering.

2afe070b43de645b908b3cb1f4723811

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on April 24, 2011
at 05:50 PM

Agitate! Agitate!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 24, 2011
at 05:32 PM

I agree that most of the followers of these diets have good intentions. And their ideas-good and bad-get re-enforced by the group. They all have a feedback loop that discourages criticisms of the diet. Paleohacks is better in this regard but not perfect. For example, I have noticed that whenever someone mentions they have "constipation" on this diet, the Paleo Greek chorus comes out to tell them that they need probiotics or they don't really need to poop that much. A lot of other diets, if you have a problem, they will tell you are doing it wrong or going through detox. Beware groups!

E7be2ce38158357f5dacae07b43d1b29

on April 24, 2011
at 05:27 PM

I agree with all of this except to put the blame inherently on the government, when it's the corporations which are pulling the strings. Tribal systems all have forms of governance, and there is generally a political form of governance in families. Corporations, a/k/a The Almighty Dollar, are entirely to blame because the current government is under their control.

9f9fa49265e03ddd2bf2bba5477a556b

(3184)

on April 24, 2011
at 05:23 PM

Actually, not infrequently, there are individuals trying to deceive in particular. But yes, often the most parsimonious answer is that the evil just happens by an avalanche of stupid ideas and agendas, not through anyone individual or group setting out to do harm. The very act of attempting to manipulate complex systems from the top-down tends to create, no matter how well intentioned.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 24, 2011
at 05:03 PM

great comment +1

6670b38baf0aae7f4d8ac2463ddc37c0

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on April 24, 2011
at 05:01 PM

Instead of being angry about the misinformation, be thankful that unlike most people, you are now on the right track!

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98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

on April 24, 2011
at 05:11 PM

Great question! I think many of us have struggled with this one. It's important to not only heal your body but to also heal your soul and mind from the past damage.

I can only say what I have done to heal myself. Each of us has to find our own way. I believe anger is generally a negative emotion and can be quite damaging so I try to limit its existence in my life. I think it's important to acknowledge it but then realize that I (we all) have the power to transform it into something useful, healing and powerful.

I first had to find some level of forgiveness for others and for myself. I forgave others pretty easily as I truly do believe that these people believe in what they say and are/were trying to help. Ornish and Pritikin and McDougall and every other low fat, vegan, macrobiotic, raw food leader I chose to follow truly believes in what they say and do. They really believe they have the answers and evangelize their truth with the hopes of being helpful to others. How can we fault people for that? It's just that most of them are wrong or at least they are wrong in many ways and for many people. I also see them and their followers as victims (many of them anyway.) Someone lead them to where they are. Someone did this to them too.

Finding forgiveness for myself was a bit more challenging. I was really angry at myself for being so weak to have given over my power to others. In the end taking responsibility for MY participation in what happened was what lead to true healing. I am not a stupid woman and am fairly well educated and have a strong science background. Yet fat seemed to make me rather stupid. My desperation caused me to accept things without question at times. I generally do not follow blindly yet looking back it seems I did a lot of that. I was desperate and wanted to believe. So I did. But in the end I did the best I could. I thought I was doing the right thing with each and every new theory or practice. With each and every new attempt to escape my fat fate. But forgiving myself for allowing myself to be so manipulated allowed me to regain my power and move forward. That was the key for my own personal growth and healing.

With my power back and firmly secured away from the clutches of others I am more determined now than ever before to continue to walk the walk and to talk the talk. I continually educate so I can walk it and talk it well. I am very careful about who and what I hold up as a sacred cow. I am utterly determined to lead by example and be a light of truth to others who seek health, wellness and freedom from fat. I share what I know with anyone interested and do so gladly. I do my best every single day to be a force for change so that others may find the truth and freedom from fat that I have found. When anger about the past tries to sneak back in I focus on the incredible gratitude I feel for having found my own truth and all that I receive for knowing the truth. I simply choose to live in a space of happiness and gratefulness that the past is the past and I will never be a diet/food victim again.

09e3a4b532dd8898d8eee23d1d8e121c

(162)

on April 25, 2011
at 12:47 AM

"In the end taking responsibility for MY participation in what happened was what lead to true healing." Thank you.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on April 26, 2011
at 02:57 PM

"It's important to not only heal your body but to also heal your soul and mind from the past damage." Bravo! I agree. The two have to go in tandem.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on April 26, 2011
at 02:56 PM

"It's important to not only heal your body but to also heal your soul and mind from the past damage." Bravo!

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on April 24, 2011
at 05:13 PM

Yes great comment Annie. But to Paleo Doll's point, I think being a little angry is ok, so long as you know how to channel it for the better, which is what I think is at the root of the question probably. I'm a happy person in life, and feel quite grateful for being 'in the know' about the truth. But thinking about how idiotic people have poisoned humanity does make me fairly angry. Angry enough to do something about it. "Angry" enough to spend time researching and finding the truth and hacking into a network of people on PaleoHacks.com and spreading the truth to my loved ones and biting back when people try to tell me what I know is wrong about what to eat. That kind of angry is ok, and can even serve a great purpose. Whimpy indecisive people that aren't motivated to do squat never accomplish anything. It is the people with passion that get things done. Sometimes, the passion can be a form of anger. Know it. Harness it. Use it.

6670b38baf0aae7f4d8ac2463ddc37c0

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on April 24, 2011
at 08:28 PM

Great points Jack.

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on April 24, 2011
at 05:54 PM

?? ?? ?? ???Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.??? - Buddha

C0cf19329f850011e66d1ccfa7d10896

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on April 25, 2011
at 03:45 AM

nice. very nice.

09e3a4b532dd8898d8eee23d1d8e121c

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on April 25, 2011
at 04:07 AM

Great thinking... but not an answer to my question. How does one stop grasping anger is the question.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 24, 2011
at 05:20 PM

I have not yet seen an "influential" diet that did not have either scientific studies to back it up OR claims that it's the "traditional" diet of mankind.

A lot of these diets rely on "contrarianism". I think this was one of the reason that macrobiotics or vegetarianism held such sway for so many years. This logic went like this: The SAD diet is bad, so whatever is the opposite of the SAD diet must be the right path. Well, vegetarianism seemed to be diametrically opposite of our diet at that time. Of course, this type of thinking has many flaws.

You say that you feel great now. Good for you. However, remember most of these diets have a "honeymoon period" in which you feel good....and then they tend to ALL have some negative aspects and you are left to make personal adaptations.

So, EVEN WITH THE PALEO DIET, you might do well to follow the advice of the Buddha, "Seek out YOUR OWN liberation with diligence".

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on April 24, 2011
at 09:46 PM

good point Thomas

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9f9fa49265e03ddd2bf2bba5477a556b

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on April 24, 2011
at 05:19 PM

"Grinding anger"? That's a bit dramatic isn't it? I mean if you have grinding anger, I'd maybe seek some counseling. That isn't terribly healthy.

And being lied to by your government? Why would you even believe anything the government has to say about anything? To govern is to lie. As for getting mad at doctors...they aren't trained to think. They were taught the same government lies in med school, so they promote them. The government lies are on the national board exams. As for the food industry, they never forced you to buy anything. But you had to know, on some level, stuff in a box isn't healthy for you. We've all known, for ever pretty much, that home cooked food comprised of actual food (e.g. not processed) is healthier for you. If you chose to ignore common sense and buy something marketed as "healthy" is on you. Besides, the food companies are only responding to demand created by government dictates.

Which is to say, all blame, always, ultimately lies with that very un-paleo thing called government.

E7be2ce38158357f5dacae07b43d1b29

on April 24, 2011
at 05:27 PM

I agree with all of this except to put the blame inherently on the government, when it's the corporations which are pulling the strings. Tribal systems all have forms of governance, and there is generally a political form of governance in families. Corporations, a/k/a The Almighty Dollar, are entirely to blame because the current government is under their control.

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on April 24, 2011
at 05:53 PM

So you're anti-statist? Do you align yourself with any thinker or tradition, or are you just going on your own study or common sense? Just wondering.

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 01, 2011
at 05:05 AM

Anti-statist AND anti-social? Makes sense.

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on April 24, 2011
at 08:28 PM

It is not just authorities, it is my parents. They fed me the food that made me fat, ridiculed me for being fat, then when I change the way I eat they got mad because their way isn't good enough for me.

The evidence of how foods affected me was there all along. Just a month ago I passed on some wine and my Mom said "grapes always did hurt your stomach".....seems like she could have noted that to me sometime prior as I had never made that connection. Then it occurred to me, just like I can see what causes my kids pain and discomfort, she knew what foods sent me to the toilet in pain or had me up all night with belly aches or a sour stomach yet still fed them to me, never telling me her observations. She knew that my biodad's family had a history of wheat allergies and never told me. I remember her telling me over and over that "We were not sick before the white man came". She knew what the cause of all our misery was yet refused to change.

I could have been this beautiful and strong and healthy all of my life. It isn't something that you can just gloss over and forgive easily.

6670b38baf0aae7f4d8ac2463ddc37c0

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on April 24, 2011
at 11:11 PM

I understand your point on this. It is frustrating and sad to see overweight and unhealthy children when we know that they are merely eating what their parents provide, encourage or allow.

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on April 24, 2011
at 05:27 PM

Realize the meta-purpose of anger: to protect oneself in the future from wrongs in the past by creating an emotional barrier. If we accept this, and also accept that as emotional creatures we work best under an impetus, then we can sublimate anger, turning it into skepticism and we can become critics of all propositions with the same fury, making our way to truth in all cases.

We can't expect anybody to be right about this nutrition thing. What we can do is hold ourselves to the greatest skepticism we can muster. Anger focused on the source of falsity rather than on one's own gullibility is misplaced. Nobody was telling us that we had to believe that whole wheat bread is good, just exhorting us to believe. That's ultimately our personal choice.

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on April 24, 2011
at 11:23 PM

I lost a lot of weight doing a typical SAD low calorie, high fiber diet. I never watched my fat, though, which some people found weird.

I do not feel angry at anyone about that, during my journey to better health, I learned a lot. It took me through different phases. I started out with just calorie counting and eating crap, then learned to eat better foods, then moderate carb/high fiber, then Paleo. I think the journey was part of my experience. I am thankful for the knowledge.

C0cf19329f850011e66d1ccfa7d10896

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on April 25, 2011
at 03:44 AM

the journey is amazing.. and continues to be.

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95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on April 24, 2011
at 11:05 PM

I don't get angry about it. My knowledge and experience with paleo is my clear counterargument to any doubters. I just try to spread the word to those who will listen when I'm asked about the way I eat, and lead them to resources (books, web sites). Leading by example is the best way, in my opinion. If someone doesn't want to listen or doesn't believe me, then fine. I move on. I don't spend my energy on trying to save the world.

Turn the anger around and fuel that energy back into yourself for positive gains. The current disaster of a diet the US government recommends is going to take years to undermine. The misinformation which has become the "truth" is going take years to eliminate from the cultural psyche.

We now live in a world full of so many "experts" that it's hard to find those with actual and worthwhile knowledge. The word expert is devalued like the word hero; it has lost the power of its meaning. Pro ball players are not heroes, but that's another subject and off the topic .......

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on April 24, 2011
at 05:44 PM

I know those angry feelings - it just doesn't seem 'fair' that people and institutions that we are supposed to trust can mislead us in such a huge way. But rather than focus on that anger I have to look at it in the light of "what can I do to change it in my own little way?"

I try to channel those feelings into a positive thing. What I mean by that is that now I know better I try to live my life this way and influence my family and friends.

Besides - I think the anger causes stress which raises cortisol which is bad :)

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on April 24, 2011
at 05:19 PM

This may be a bit snarky, but:

Don't try to put a ton of trust in the government. In the US (or most European countries) you are talking about a huge body with decisions made on ever level by people with very different motivations (from getting a paycheck, (re) elected, or feeling that they are making a difference).

Don't try to concentrate on a particular thing you feel the government misled you on. Items like the McGovern dietary recommendations that came out of congress just occurred because the guy chairing the committee needed something to do that was public until he ran for higher office. The intent probably was not malicious, but the direction the government takes on any issues eventually is just some mass compromise of competing agenda. There is no individual trying to deceive in particular.

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on April 24, 2011
at 05:23 PM

Actually, not infrequently, there are individuals trying to deceive in particular. But yes, often the most parsimonious answer is that the evil just happens by an avalanche of stupid ideas and agendas, not through anyone individual or group setting out to do harm. The very act of attempting to manipulate complex systems from the top-down tends to create, no matter how well intentioned.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 24, 2011
at 04:42 PM

Ill answer a question with a question......Do you get angry with yourself for not researching better before you jumped all in?

Im not trying to goad you at all. I think your question represents how many feel. I just think that is the major problem with all diets. Its not about our feelings. Its about biochemistry of you. And to really know you have to due your due diligence. And I dont believe most do enough.

That is why we have 250 diet books written per year and published. That amazes me. That is Einsteins theory at work......If you do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result what would you call it?

09e3a4b532dd8898d8eee23d1d8e121c

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on April 25, 2011
at 12:49 AM

I researched every choice I made to the best of my non-scientist ability at the time, so no, I have no regrets about that.

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E7be2ce38158357f5dacae07b43d1b29

on April 24, 2011
at 05:23 PM

I don't have any anger about being misled about diet, since most people do so with good intentions (maybe not the food industry). The reality is that we, humans, still don't know a whole lot about nutrition, and that those of us follow what we consider to be a paleo diet are experimenting, too. I get annoyed by the food industry pushing unhealthy foods and even trying to make them sound healthy, but that's what ads do. To me, there isn't much to be angry about when I am free to make my own choices and pay attention to my body's own signals.

I don't believe that there is one diet that is perfect for everyone. What works for me may not work for my mom or my best friend. If someone else is happy, healthy, energetic and clear-headed on strict adherence to the Food Pyramid Guide, who am I to tell them they're doing it wrong? I just know it's not right for me. There wouldn't be so many diets out there if anyone had it all figured out.

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on April 24, 2011
at 05:32 PM

I agree that most of the followers of these diets have good intentions. And their ideas-good and bad-get re-enforced by the group. They all have a feedback loop that discourages criticisms of the diet. Paleohacks is better in this regard but not perfect. For example, I have noticed that whenever someone mentions they have "constipation" on this diet, the Paleo Greek chorus comes out to tell them that they need probiotics or they don't really need to poop that much. A lot of other diets, if you have a problem, they will tell you are doing it wrong or going through detox. Beware groups!

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