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Trolls or Newbies?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 23, 2012 at 7:13 AM

Does anyone know why we are getting masses of people who are recommending -

Soy Oatmeal Low-carb Bread Canola Only cook with olive oil

etc....?

Is this just a new influx of people new to the lifestyle? Did new ads go up somewhere? Or is the site getting spammed for some reason?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 30, 2012
at 11:14 PM

Yes but really suggestion for Tofu2Go etc... really don't qualify as Paleo and the reason I posted the post is all of a sudden a few days prior to the post the site seemed to be swarming with answers like this...

4d19018c899ad4e4c8a8bff5515449e1

(242)

on April 23, 2012
at 09:16 PM

@Matt I agree with you. This site is called Paleohacks and it took me months to realize I can't just follow every aspect of one person's cookbook/nutrition guide and expect to see the same results as someone else.

4d19018c899ad4e4c8a8bff5515449e1

(242)

on April 23, 2012
at 09:12 PM

The hardest part for a newbie though is to get so many conflicting answers, especially when some people will use the authority of a paleo god to scare you.

Ccacf7567273244733bc991af4ac42ed

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on April 23, 2012
at 04:20 PM

I'd rather people acknowledge when they give an answer that isn't strictly paleo though. It can be confusing when someone comes here having read the basics and are trying it out and they get told 'dude you need to, like, eat potatoes and rice asap'

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on April 23, 2012
at 04:17 PM

GMO is a meaningless strawman, IMO. There might be some new GMO food that is better for you than anything. (Okay, probably not.) GMO should raise suspicions, but not automatically eliminate foods. Canola is bad because of the type of fats it contains (too much n6, too much PUFA). It won't kill you as fast as corn oil. Hey! There's a tag line... "Try XYZ! It won't kill you as fast as corn oil!"

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on April 23, 2012
at 04:14 PM

The dark side of paleo, sounds good to me!

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on April 23, 2012
at 04:12 PM

You have gone to the dark side. Feel the power of the dark side! Gluten, I am your father...

193b7fb0fec8913d5ebb3b99a04d21c6

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on April 23, 2012
at 02:51 PM

The biggest problem I had pre-Paleo was canola oil going rancid. UGH.

870fdea50f2a9f1cd2890c8e22549300

(2056)

on April 23, 2012
at 02:33 PM

I thought there was no absolutely standard definition of "paleo." People's understanding is evolving as research continues. And the Conventional Wisdom can evolve into Conventional Paleo Wisdom. So questioning authority is not necessarily the sign of a troll. I have seen, for example, reasonable minds differing regarding rice.

3dc940ac9be21e45cf83207814c8cd46

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on April 23, 2012
at 01:47 PM

Unfortunately, almost all canola is GMO.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on April 23, 2012
at 12:08 PM

Canola is rapeseed oil since its made from rapeseed. Or rape oil. Canola sounds friendlier.

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on April 23, 2012
at 11:10 AM

who recommends soy, oatmeal, bread, or canola?

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on April 23, 2012
at 10:36 AM

Totally agree. Where are the paleo police!?!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on April 23, 2012
at 10:33 AM

Corn and rice are somewhat benign grains, which is why you see some folks eating them, particularly if they have no problems with grains. And canola, well, it's not the worst oil, nor is it the best oil out there. Paleo is not black/white, it's a spectrum of grays.

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on April 23, 2012
at 08:06 AM

The "and" search tag is the most useful on here.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on April 23, 2012
at 12:57 PM

Perhaps they're just advanced "hackers" building off the paleo framework.

Soy? Moderate amounts of traditionally prepared soy are probably not problematic, possibly beneficial.

Oatmeal? Again, another benign grain. Not too exciting nutritionally, but not necessarily detrimental to one's health, possibly beneficial.

Low-carb bread? Meh, it's better than Wonderbread!

Canola? There are both better and worse options out there in terms of fats.

Cooking with olive oil? Not terribly different than other safe fats (i.e. animal fats, macadamia oil, palm and coconut oils) in terms of PUFA content. Cooking with it seems not problematic at medium to low temperatures.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on April 23, 2012
at 04:14 PM

The dark side of paleo, sounds good to me!

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on April 23, 2012
at 04:12 PM

You have gone to the dark side. Feel the power of the dark side! Gluten, I am your father...

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4d19018c899ad4e4c8a8bff5515449e1

on April 23, 2012
at 07:25 AM

It is Paleohacks, but I too have wondered this. I am a newbie myself, but I looked at this site often before registering to ask a question, because some people's responses are really opposed to paleo lifestyle. Eating full fat dairy/butter is one thing, but rice and corn are still grains. It seems like if someone asks a question on a paleo site they should get paleo answers. Then again, maybe that is the purpose sometimes. To hack people's diets-and when I started I got a Cordain book and he suggested to cook with canola or olive oil, but now canola is bad.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on April 23, 2012
at 10:33 AM

Corn and rice are somewhat benign grains, which is why you see some folks eating them, particularly if they have no problems with grains. And canola, well, it's not the worst oil, nor is it the best oil out there. Paleo is not black/white, it's a spectrum of grays.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on April 23, 2012
at 04:17 PM

GMO is a meaningless strawman, IMO. There might be some new GMO food that is better for you than anything. (Okay, probably not.) GMO should raise suspicions, but not automatically eliminate foods. Canola is bad because of the type of fats it contains (too much n6, too much PUFA). It won't kill you as fast as corn oil. Hey! There's a tag line... "Try XYZ! It won't kill you as fast as corn oil!"

193b7fb0fec8913d5ebb3b99a04d21c6

(2918)

on April 23, 2012
at 02:51 PM

The biggest problem I had pre-Paleo was canola oil going rancid. UGH.

870fdea50f2a9f1cd2890c8e22549300

(2056)

on April 23, 2012
at 02:33 PM

I thought there was no absolutely standard definition of "paleo." People's understanding is evolving as research continues. And the Conventional Wisdom can evolve into Conventional Paleo Wisdom. So questioning authority is not necessarily the sign of a troll. I have seen, for example, reasonable minds differing regarding rice.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on April 23, 2012
at 12:08 PM

Canola is rapeseed oil since its made from rapeseed. Or rape oil. Canola sounds friendlier.

Ccacf7567273244733bc991af4ac42ed

(5198)

on April 23, 2012
at 04:20 PM

I'd rather people acknowledge when they give an answer that isn't strictly paleo though. It can be confusing when someone comes here having read the basics and are trying it out and they get told 'dude you need to, like, eat potatoes and rice asap'

4d19018c899ad4e4c8a8bff5515449e1

(242)

on April 23, 2012
at 09:16 PM

@Matt I agree with you. This site is called Paleohacks and it took me months to realize I can't just follow every aspect of one person's cookbook/nutrition guide and expect to see the same results as someone else.

3dc940ac9be21e45cf83207814c8cd46

(544)

on April 23, 2012
at 01:47 PM

Unfortunately, almost all canola is GMO.

4d19018c899ad4e4c8a8bff5515449e1

(242)

on April 23, 2012
at 09:12 PM

The hardest part for a newbie though is to get so many conflicting answers, especially when some people will use the authority of a paleo god to scare you.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 30, 2012
at 11:14 PM

Yes but really suggestion for Tofu2Go etc... really don't qualify as Paleo and the reason I posted the post is all of a sudden a few days prior to the post the site seemed to be swarming with answers like this...

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