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Here are the slides from the AHS presentations. What do you think?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 09, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Here is the slides form the AHS. Which talk you recommend for people who stayed away. And what was your favorite talk? Or moment of light? Of inspiration?

http://www.slideshare.net/ancestralhealth/

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on August 09, 2011
at 10:47 PM

Anyone have any idea when they'll be posted?

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on August 09, 2011
at 09:58 PM

Lustig is definitely not low carb as such. As noted by Melissa (and also by me in my "report from summer camp post"), Lustig challenged Feinman on the unqualified admonition of carbs.

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on August 09, 2011
at 09:57 PM

@Travis - I did not make Lustig's lecture so I cannot answer your question. Perhaps on Melissa's blog the greater context will be apparent. Once the videos of the seminar are posted, I definitely intend to watch the Lustig video

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on August 09, 2011
at 08:51 PM

yeah, I guess he did duke it out with Feinman about fruit and starch.

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on August 09, 2011
at 08:39 PM

Lustig low carb? I've gotten the impression that he wasn't for low-carb, unless he's changed his tune since the Jimmy Moore interview.

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on August 09, 2011
at 08:30 PM

Primordial, I suspect he is a conventional low-carber and not paleo, he should embrace real food.

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on August 09, 2011
at 08:01 PM

"why is Lustig so pudgy? and red-faced?" Do we know what his diet is about?

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at 07:21 PM

thank you paul for editing*

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on August 09, 2011
at 06:55 PM

he was nice though, just don't think he has all the diet stuff figured out. Still seems hung up on nutritionism.

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on August 09, 2011
at 06:54 PM

why is Lustig so pudgy? and red-faced?

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on August 09, 2011
at 06:18 PM

Aravind: Was that an ancillary point or did the lecture hinge on it?

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on August 09, 2011
at 06:14 PM

This is kind of a duplicate question so I'm going to change the title.

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on August 09, 2011
at 06:13 PM

It works for me.

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on August 09, 2011
at 05:20 PM

I also vote for Dr. Lustig. Talk about a tour de force. After that slight dust up the day before, he was all charged up and, although I have seen his "sugar kills" video on youtube, this presentation hit like ton of bricks. I'd sit through the same again, any day, it was so interesting and he was so compelling.

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on August 09, 2011
at 04:04 PM

*And you may have noticed, some of the people taking octreotide actually gained weight... but he only focused on those who lost. So I would say the evidence remains at zero that insulin blocks leptin signaling and contributes to fat gain. However, what does make sense is the possibility that insulin resistance in the brain contributes to leptin resistance. I'm not aware of any evidence of that being the case, but that hypothesis at least would make sense*

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on August 09, 2011
at 04:04 PM

*And you may have noticed, some of the people taking octreotide actually gained weight... but he only focused on those who lost. So I would say the evidence remains at zero that insulin blocks leptin signaling and contributes to fat gain. However, what does make sense is the possibility that insulin resistance in the brain contributes to leptin resistance. I'm not aware of any evidence of that being the case, but that hypothesis at least would make sense.*

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on August 09, 2011
at 04:03 PM

So here was Stephan Guyenet's comment about Lustig over on Melissa's blog - *Just wanted to add that insulin does not block leptin signaling in the hypothalamus, quite the contrary. Lustig actually got that right in one slide, but somehow ended up deciding that insulin blocks leptin. To the contrary, the pathways are somewhat synergistic and infusing insulin into the brain of primates and rodents causes fat loss. The drug he used to reduce insulin secretion, octreotide, is a somatostatin mimic and has many effects besides reducing insulin.*

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on August 09, 2011
at 01:25 PM

Is it possible to either view these or (even better) download them? When I click on them, all I get it some message about a Coding Error.

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on August 09, 2011
at 02:46 PM

Hands down - Dr. Lustig.

Cordain and many others were interesting, but offered no new information - which is totally okay, but Lustig is a great speaker and his tying insulin and leptin together was brilliant and new (to me at least). People around me were muttering "wow" and "oh!" throughout the talk. I was seriously blown away.

I also really enjoyed Minger/Dr BG/Melissa/Emily Deans and Matt LaLonde (he was really good). I got bits of new info from many speakers, but Lustig was the best, IMHO.

Of course, I missed half the speakers and I heard that Erwan LeCorre was really good. I also enjoyed Dr. Feinman for reasons I cannot fathom, although maybe I just like crotchity old geezers. The sparks between him and Lustig after Feinman's talk (day before Lustig's) were especially fun to watch (I didn't get to see the "Taubes/Guyenet Incident").

I hope its all on video - and soon!

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on August 09, 2011
at 08:51 PM

yeah, I guess he did duke it out with Feinman about fruit and starch.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on August 09, 2011
at 04:03 PM

So here was Stephan Guyenet's comment about Lustig over on Melissa's blog - *Just wanted to add that insulin does not block leptin signaling in the hypothalamus, quite the contrary. Lustig actually got that right in one slide, but somehow ended up deciding that insulin blocks leptin. To the contrary, the pathways are somewhat synergistic and infusing insulin into the brain of primates and rodents causes fat loss. The drug he used to reduce insulin secretion, octreotide, is a somatostatin mimic and has many effects besides reducing insulin.*

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on August 09, 2011
at 08:39 PM

Lustig low carb? I've gotten the impression that he wasn't for low-carb, unless he's changed his tune since the Jimmy Moore interview.

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on August 09, 2011
at 08:01 PM

"why is Lustig so pudgy? and red-faced?" Do we know what his diet is about?

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on August 09, 2011
at 04:04 PM

*And you may have noticed, some of the people taking octreotide actually gained weight... but he only focused on those who lost. So I would say the evidence remains at zero that insulin blocks leptin signaling and contributes to fat gain. However, what does make sense is the possibility that insulin resistance in the brain contributes to leptin resistance. I'm not aware of any evidence of that being the case, but that hypothesis at least would make sense*

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on August 09, 2011
at 06:54 PM

why is Lustig so pudgy? and red-faced?

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on August 09, 2011
at 06:55 PM

he was nice though, just don't think he has all the diet stuff figured out. Still seems hung up on nutritionism.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on August 09, 2011
at 09:58 PM

Lustig is definitely not low carb as such. As noted by Melissa (and also by me in my "report from summer camp post"), Lustig challenged Feinman on the unqualified admonition of carbs.

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on August 09, 2011
at 05:20 PM

I also vote for Dr. Lustig. Talk about a tour de force. After that slight dust up the day before, he was all charged up and, although I have seen his "sugar kills" video on youtube, this presentation hit like ton of bricks. I'd sit through the same again, any day, it was so interesting and he was so compelling.

Medium avatar

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on August 09, 2011
at 06:18 PM

Aravind: Was that an ancillary point or did the lecture hinge on it?

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on August 09, 2011
at 08:30 PM

Primordial, I suspect he is a conventional low-carber and not paleo, he should embrace real food.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on August 09, 2011
at 04:04 PM

*And you may have noticed, some of the people taking octreotide actually gained weight... but he only focused on those who lost. So I would say the evidence remains at zero that insulin blocks leptin signaling and contributes to fat gain. However, what does make sense is the possibility that insulin resistance in the brain contributes to leptin resistance. I'm not aware of any evidence of that being the case, but that hypothesis at least would make sense.*

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on August 09, 2011
at 09:57 PM

@Travis - I did not make Lustig's lecture so I cannot answer your question. Perhaps on Melissa's blog the greater context will be apparent. Once the videos of the seminar are posted, I definitely intend to watch the Lustig video

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on August 09, 2011
at 08:40 PM

I think that videos would be even better. I'm planning on watching most of them if/when they come out.

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on August 09, 2011
at 08:00 PM

I think I can't wait for the videos >_>

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on August 09, 2011
at 10:47 PM

Anyone have any idea when they'll be posted?

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