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Have you seen these Ancestral Health Symposium videos yet?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 12, 2011 at 12:19 AM

I went looking for more videos after seeing the Taubes/Gueyenet smackdown and found that videos have been posted.

http://vimeo.com/ancestralhealthsymposium

What do you think of these?

Enjoy!

edit: Videos are single camera on speaker, but slides are available here.

http://www.slideshare.net/ancestralhealth/presentations

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on August 16, 2011
at 11:10 AM

Mat's not in the nutrition department at Harvard, and I would be surprised if he agreed with much of what they put out. He's in the Chemistry and Chemical Biology department.

154d799847153f5589f99496a9bdbb71

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on August 14, 2011
at 06:58 PM

@Namby Pamby: The hunter-gatherer diet did not last that long? Huh?!?

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on August 14, 2011
at 05:06 PM

yes, spearmint is not caraway

D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

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on August 14, 2011
at 04:06 AM

LaLonde was fine without slides. You could look up most the molecules on wiki if you wanted.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 14, 2011
at 04:00 AM

First yr snafu's......it will get better.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 14, 2011
at 03:56 AM

Matt needed to say what he did. Too many out there spewing BS that will not allow this to go mainstream. He was spot on.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 14, 2011
at 03:54 AM

and a few more he left out I am afraid......

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on August 14, 2011
at 02:41 AM

I actually agree that we've had enough time to adjust. This is Cordain's weakness. The supposed hunter-gatherer diet era did not last as long as he claims, unless you count the era of humans as something other than homo sapiens. But yes he can be a jerk.

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

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on August 13, 2011
at 09:05 PM

Yes he does have black eyes! I noticed that at the AHS too.

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on August 13, 2011
at 07:45 PM

I had this same experience with Lustig's video, it was very frustrating.

154d799847153f5589f99496a9bdbb71

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on August 13, 2011
at 04:57 PM

He seemed like he going out of his way to be a jerk, but I tried to ignore that because he had some great points. My biggest criticism is that he said in the beginning that the claim "we haven't had enough time to adapt to these foods" was completely invalid. Then later he repeated the statement, but commented that the way he was framing it was legit. I could see virtually no difference between the two statements. It's funny you bring up Harvard Nutrition. If you look at their guidelines, they are filled with nonsense about saturated fat. I wonder how Mat feels about that.

154d799847153f5589f99496a9bdbb71

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on August 13, 2011
at 04:56 PM

He seemed like he going out of his way to be a jerk, but I tried to ignore that because he had some great points. My biggest criticism is that he said in the beginning that the claim "we haven't had enough time to adapt to these foods" was completely invalid. Then later he repeated the statement, but commented that the way he was framing it was legit. I could see virtually no difference between the two statements. It's funny you bring up Harvard Nutrition. If you look at their guidelines, they are filled with nonsense about saturated fat. I wonder how Mat feels about that.

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on August 13, 2011
at 01:19 AM

A "hard core scientist" scolding the group of "amateur scientists" that turned mainstream nutrition science on its head is really irritating. Were there overstatements? Yeah. Would I rather Chris Masterjohn or Stephan Guyenet design my diet than the Harvard Nutrition Department? Hell fucking yeah. I think this guy should get some of the humble he's trying to give out.

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at 01:18 AM

A "hard core scientist" lecturing the group of "amateur scientists" that turned mainstream nutrition science on its head is really irritating. Were there overstatements? Yeah. Would I rather Chris Masterjohn or Stephan Guyenet design my diet than the Harvard Nutrition Department? Hell fucking yeah. I think this guy should get some of the humble he's trying to give out.

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at 02:54 PM

Chemistry demon.

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154d799847153f5589f99496a9bdbb71

on August 12, 2011
at 02:34 PM

Lalonde's speech was humbling.

But I have a serious concern: does he have black eyes?

have-you-seen-these-ancestral-health-symposium-videos-yet?

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on August 12, 2011
at 02:54 PM

Chemistry demon.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on August 13, 2011
at 01:18 AM

A "hard core scientist" lecturing the group of "amateur scientists" that turned mainstream nutrition science on its head is really irritating. Were there overstatements? Yeah. Would I rather Chris Masterjohn or Stephan Guyenet design my diet than the Harvard Nutrition Department? Hell fucking yeah. I think this guy should get some of the humble he's trying to give out.

154d799847153f5589f99496a9bdbb71

(992)

on August 13, 2011
at 04:57 PM

He seemed like he going out of his way to be a jerk, but I tried to ignore that because he had some great points. My biggest criticism is that he said in the beginning that the claim "we haven't had enough time to adapt to these foods" was completely invalid. Then later he repeated the statement, but commented that the way he was framing it was legit. I could see virtually no difference between the two statements. It's funny you bring up Harvard Nutrition. If you look at their guidelines, they are filled with nonsense about saturated fat. I wonder how Mat feels about that.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5147)

on August 14, 2011
at 02:41 AM

I actually agree that we've had enough time to adjust. This is Cordain's weakness. The supposed hunter-gatherer diet era did not last as long as he claims, unless you count the era of humans as something other than homo sapiens. But yes he can be a jerk.

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on August 13, 2011
at 09:05 PM

Yes he does have black eyes! I noticed that at the AHS too.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on August 13, 2011
at 01:19 AM

A "hard core scientist" scolding the group of "amateur scientists" that turned mainstream nutrition science on its head is really irritating. Were there overstatements? Yeah. Would I rather Chris Masterjohn or Stephan Guyenet design my diet than the Harvard Nutrition Department? Hell fucking yeah. I think this guy should get some of the humble he's trying to give out.

154d799847153f5589f99496a9bdbb71

(992)

on August 13, 2011
at 04:56 PM

He seemed like he going out of his way to be a jerk, but I tried to ignore that because he had some great points. My biggest criticism is that he said in the beginning that the claim "we haven't had enough time to adapt to these foods" was completely invalid. Then later he repeated the statement, but commented that the way he was framing it was legit. I could see virtually no difference between the two statements. It's funny you bring up Harvard Nutrition. If you look at their guidelines, they are filled with nonsense about saturated fat. I wonder how Mat feels about that.

154d799847153f5589f99496a9bdbb71

(992)

on August 14, 2011
at 06:58 PM

@Namby Pamby: The hunter-gatherer diet did not last that long? Huh?!?

Eeaad28c7e6c0011f11e2da53942a2c2

(55)

on August 16, 2011
at 11:10 AM

Mat's not in the nutrition department at Harvard, and I would be surprised if he agreed with much of what they put out. He's in the Chemistry and Chemical Biology department.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on August 14, 2011
at 03:56 AM

Matt needed to say what he did. Too many out there spewing BS that will not allow this to go mainstream. He was spot on.

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on August 14, 2011
at 05:06 PM

yes, spearmint is not caraway

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on August 12, 2011
at 12:35 AM

I enjoyed Dr. Lustig's speech (the only one I've seen so far from AHS) but I think it would be better if they could somehow meld the slides with the video as having two different browser windows to look at both was slightly annoying.

As for the content, it was very informative and I felt like I learned a few things about leptin from it that I didn't know.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 14, 2011
at 03:54 AM

and a few more he left out I am afraid......

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on August 14, 2011
at 05:01 AM

I went ahead and "streamlined" Robb Wolf's talk: http://www.streamlnr.com/s/4F9MW2YP/

A little frenetic without (or even with) the slides, but some interesting points. His story in particular -- the data was a bit rushed.

(Let me know if you want to help annotate the rest here: http://www.streamlnr.com/cc/ancestral-health/)

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on August 12, 2011
at 01:30 AM

Yes, I watched the Lustig vid and am looking forward to the post-production version. Is it the lighting, or has he lost weight since his viral video?

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on August 12, 2011
at 04:56 PM

Just watched and enjoyed Lindeberg's:

(downloaded it beforehand with DownloadHelper)

Tried to watch Lalonde's but it did not seem worth it without the slides, which I don't see up.

Lustig's vid seems to jump foward 9 mins in, I lost track of what slide he was on so I gave up.

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on August 13, 2011
at 07:45 PM

I had this same experience with Lustig's video, it was very frustrating.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on August 14, 2011
at 04:00 AM

First yr snafu's......it will get better.

D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

(5242)

on August 14, 2011
at 04:06 AM

LaLonde was fine without slides. You could look up most the molecules on wiki if you wanted.

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