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Am I messing myself up?

Commented on May 15, 2014
Created May 12, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Hi,

I've been trying to follow paleo but as the only member of my household doing this, I'm finding it really hard sometimes. I need to lose about 20lb, get my muscle tone back and improve my general health and fitness- this is the diet for me. But, am I messing it up?? I heard that people tend to lose weight fast on this diet. I seem flabbier to me. However, I do have a huge problem with how I see myself, and I'm not sure that will ever change. I have only been doing this for three weeks and I think I must be doing it wrong or wrecking it with the occasional splash of maple syrup or bit of chocolate. I thought my calorie and crap intake had dropped dramatically but I can't see why I'm not actually losing weight! This time last summer my OH was deployed and I used that time to get fitter and worked out nearly every day. Now my stomach is flabby and my skin feels loose. My own fault for not keeping motivated and being too embarrassed to work out in front of him. Help- please give me a good sample of how to eat, quantities, and how often, because I'm just failing and I can't deal with that. I have to lose this weight.

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on May 15, 2014
at 07:32 PM

Thank you @RonBurgundy, I appreciate the time you took to answer me. Today and yesterday I ate small, regular meals that were fairly nutrient dense and full of flavour and were clean, and I feel much better for it. Much less negative. Amazing how mood is affected by diet. Your response was very helpful and I intend to implement your advice for the long term and see where it takes me

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on May 15, 2014
at 05:37 PM

@thhq Thank's for the condescending snipe ;) I love how people seem to think that any approach that is not numerical, must by default be idiotic while getting their ego's and identity all bound up in the calorie model which has existed through the greatest explosion in obesity in history. It simply doesn't work for everyone. The OP was clearly distressed and what she was doing wasn't working for her, so I offered my experience which has so far led to me shedding 30lbs in 4 months…and counting. If you disagree that's fine, but there's no need to be a d**k about it.

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on May 15, 2014
at 09:02 AM

My fat did not go away by saying "ommm" and eating bacon. While you may rightly question thermo, don't invoke magic as a substitute.

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on May 14, 2014
at 09:14 PM

I suppose you could do that, but I take them both together with a large meal. You want them to compete for absorption so the ratio is intact.

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on May 14, 2014
at 06:51 PM

Right, not on the same day, Zinc and Copper on alternating days.

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on May 14, 2014
at 12:20 PM

You'll know if you take those together on an empty stomach.

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on May 14, 2014
at 06:16 AM

"...If you do, have bread near by and eat it and eat it immediately."

? why

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on May 14, 2014
at 04:17 AM

Do NOT take supplemental zinc and copper together, seriously. If you do, have bread near by and eat it immediately.

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on May 13, 2014
at 08:56 PM

then you would also need to supplement with cooper if you are not eating a lot of beef liver?

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on May 13, 2014
at 08:21 PM

I hope that's the case. Feeling very unmotivated at the moment,

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on May 13, 2014
at 07:43 PM

With ZMA, it's all in the wrong forms and wrong amounts, so I wouldn't bother. Zinc picolinate and magnesium glycinate are better tolerated and more effective forms. I wouldn't supplement with B6 at all.

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on May 13, 2014
at 07:10 PM

Calories are one part of the story. Hormone balance is the other. undereating is bad for hormone balance.

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on May 13, 2014
at 07:09 PM

What's your take on ZMA?

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on May 13, 2014
at 06:25 PM

Except you do need to eat enough to function.

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on May 13, 2014
at 06:47 AM

I was always taught that if you want to reduce weight you lessen the calories you take in. How is adding to calories going to help me?

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on May 12, 2014
at 09:32 PM

You are seriously undereating. Try any food logging website. You need calories.

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on May 12, 2014
at 06:27 PM

I'm 5ft 8inches tall and weight 78kg.

I feel embarrassed to work out in front of him because he is in the military and used to seeing people do it "properly" and probably sees women who are insanely fit and I don't want to fall short of his expectations. Not that he would even have any. It's just me. My self esteem was somewhat crushed as a young girl and it's never properly recovered. I'm not ONLY trying to lose weight, I'm hoping to gain my muscle tone back and my confidence as well as improve my health and heal some damage that has been done, I'm gluten intolerant and maybe dairy too

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on May 12, 2014
at 06:21 PM

This isn't really a "diet" to "lose weight". It's about eating well and optimizing your health. Your body might be at a good place, and that is why your weight says the same. Yes, some people can lose alot, but those are usually people who have way more than 20 vanity pounds to lose. How tall are you? How much to you weigh? What do you eat? And, importantly - why on earth would you be embarrassed to work out in front of your husband? That is kind of strange, and signals deeper problems that need attention. Your weight might not be the issue, your self esteem and confidence might be.

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on May 12, 2014
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Why don't you post a typical day/week of eating/working out/etc

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on May 15, 2014
at 08:54 AM

You're already at a normal healthy weight for your height. The 20 lbs are not going to go away easily on ANY diet. It will take hard work, literally, to lose them. If you're going to do hard work you need to eat more. Then get out on the road for 2 hours a day - biking, running, swimming. To look insanely trained you have to train insanely.

I'm not kidding. Make room in your day. It sounds like a waste of time, but my guess is that making the commitment to do it, and doing it, will improve your self-image.

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on May 14, 2014
at 12:15 PM

Don't give up. Consistency is key. While calories aren't the whole picture, it is easy to consume way too many on paleo, especially with things like nuts and avocados. Try HIIT, IF, carb cycling. Don't eat and do the same thing everyday. You have to keep your body guessing. But I'd say the most important thing is to just keep going.

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on May 13, 2014
at 05:24 PM

You might try just eating meat and potatoes for the most part. I never get anything but negligible satiety from eggs and bacon unless I eat massive amounts, but steak and tubers always fills me up. Most people gain weight with the help of low-satiety, refined foods. Meals involving a steak, some tubers and a vegetable will be nutritious and should keep you full for many hours.

If what you've been doing is making you feel hungry all the time, you need to scrap it and do something else. Don't worry about avoiding carbs or pursuing fat, just focus on eating unrefined foods.

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on May 13, 2014
at 07:09 PM

What's your take on ZMA?

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on May 13, 2014
at 07:43 PM

With ZMA, it's all in the wrong forms and wrong amounts, so I wouldn't bother. Zinc picolinate and magnesium glycinate are better tolerated and more effective forms. I wouldn't supplement with B6 at all.

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on May 13, 2014
at 12:11 PM

@magickdio The whole calorie concept has done quite a bit of damage to society in my opinion. It's based on a law of thermodynamics that makes sense in a closed system like a laboratory test, but not in an open system like a living breathing human being. Plus it leads to people putting incredible stress on themselves, and then failing, yo-yo dieting and beating themselves up. The general shift in mindset you want to make, is away from "losing weight" and towards "building health". If you eat lots of healthy, clean, low sugar foods, you will feel full, soothe your nervous system, and your body will slowly perceive that it is in an environment of safety and plenty and shed any unnecessary fat.

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on May 13, 2014
at 08:21 PM

I hope that's the case. Feeling very unmotivated at the moment,

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on May 15, 2014
at 07:32 PM

Thank you @RonBurgundy, I appreciate the time you took to answer me. Today and yesterday I ate small, regular meals that were fairly nutrient dense and full of flavour and were clean, and I feel much better for it. Much less negative. Amazing how mood is affected by diet. Your response was very helpful and I intend to implement your advice for the long term and see where it takes me

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on May 15, 2014
at 09:02 AM

My fat did not go away by saying "ommm" and eating bacon. While you may rightly question thermo, don't invoke magic as a substitute.

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on May 12, 2014
at 06:19 PM

Today I have eaten two poached eggs, one slice of bacon (British so I think our bacon is like American ham) and a half a tomato for breakfast. I had slow cooked beef and carrots for lunch followed by warm mixed berries (about 1/2 a cup) drizzled with half a teaspoon of maple syrup. For dinner I had a small bowl of cauliflower "rice" with a crumbled up piece of crispy bacon. I have drunk 2 cups of tea without milk or sugar and have had two large glasses of water and will have a glass with fresh lemon juice later. Today I have walked around town with my students and will be doing some cycling on my stationary bike later. Three times a week I do squats, bench presses, lunges, kickbacks, planks, step ups and skipping for about 45 minutes.

I am feeling hungry. The other night when I felt hungry I made a paleo mug cake from a website. One tablespoon of almond flour, one of good quality dark cocoa powder, one egg, a teaspoon of honey and some coconut milk. It was nice. And probably horribly fattening.

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on May 13, 2014
at 06:47 AM

I was always taught that if you want to reduce weight you lessen the calories you take in. How is adding to calories going to help me?

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on May 12, 2014
at 09:32 PM

You are seriously undereating. Try any food logging website. You need calories.

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