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Difference between allergy/intolerance and reaction to something new?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 26, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Hi Everyone.

How can you tell the difference between your body is having an allergic reaction (or is intolerant to a food) and when it is just reacting to a new food that it hasn't eaten in several years?

The reason I ask this is because after several years of raw veganism, cooked veganism and vegetarianism my body is struggling with the reintroduction of eggs, fish, goats yoghurt and cottage cheese.

I'm not sure whether to just persist with the changes and hope my body will adjust in time or whether these foods are not benefitting me. Can anyone shed some light on this please?

Peace x

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

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on April 07, 2013
at 03:58 PM

Hi Axial. I'm not sure I understand. I like dairy but I've learnt that it triggers bloating, stomach pain and cramps x

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

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on April 07, 2013
at 03:57 PM

Thanks Joanna. I'm still having problems and was hospitalised last week for the pain. The doctors are looking into a bowel blockage, crohns, possible stomach tumour, and gallstones. I have an ultrasound next week so fingers crossed I'll find out more then. They've also discovered I've very low levels of thyroid and oestrogen, and that my liver function is abnormal. I've got an MRI scan booked for the end of the month to check pituitary function. Fingers crossed I'll soon have some answers as I'm struggling to eat anything without abdominal cramps, pain, bloating, nausea and occasional hives x

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 07, 2013
at 03:54 PM

In my inexpert opinion, this actually sounds like good advice. Obviously you shouldn't take an antihistamine before every meal for the rest of your life, but if taking powerful antihistamines prevents the reaction, then that does point to a bona fide allergy instead of another cause. If it doesn't help, I wouldn't rule out allergies, though.

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

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on March 24, 2013
at 06:44 PM

Thank you Levi, this is helpful information x

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on March 24, 2013
at 06:14 PM

Warning: Satire. It' s simple. If it's a food we like, then you should go on eating it and assume that you'll eventually get used to it. If it's a food we don't like, you should assume we were right all along and never try it again.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on March 24, 2013
at 05:47 PM

also, I just saw an allergist about food allergy testing and she told me this. with a food allergy, you will have trouble breathing, chest pain, tongue/lip swelling/trouble swallowing. if you don't have these symptoms, it's just a food intolerance and not an allergy. for that very reason, she would not give me food allergy testing because I've never had these symptoms.

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

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on January 27, 2013
at 07:30 AM

Thanks Big Poppa. After reading that article I'm even more confused! How did you interpret the article? x

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

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on January 27, 2013
at 07:29 AM

Thanks again Joanna. I'll look into digestive enzymes x

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

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on January 27, 2013
at 07:28 AM

As for meat, I'm still struggling with eating it after over twenty years of it being off menu. There may come a time I try it soon as I'm beginning to open up to the idea of bone broth. Thanks again x

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

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on January 27, 2013
at 07:27 AM

Thanks for your feedback VB I've checked out Denise Mingers website and she has some interesting articles and insights. I have been eating four eggs (yolks and whites) daily and find they seem to digest ok. In fact I could easily eat at least a dozen more, it's like my body craves them. I've had Plain prawns a few times now and straight after finishing my stomach cramps and bloats. This usually last at least 4-5 hours. It happened less with smoked mackerel, tuna and mussels but to a much lesser degree. I've enquired about raw fish but it's so expensive so is off the menu for now.

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on January 27, 2013
at 01:26 AM

Faileo is not the answer...check out this puppy: http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=419742

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

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on January 26, 2013
at 08:41 PM

Hi Big Poppa I had a sever allergic reaction to mushrooms at Christmas. My skin inflamed, blistered and my body swelled up. The doctors gave me anti-histamines then and I reacted to those as well by vomiting them back up. So I cannot see how that will help now? I would also like to understand the root cause so I can address that rather than mask the symptom. So do you have any idea whether it is the food I'm reacting to or is my body reacting to something new? Peace x

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9aa4046713d6cd5dbf3220d913a178a0

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on March 24, 2013
at 02:45 PM

An allergic reaction, is a response by your immune system against a particular food. Now unless you where born with a "true food allergy" to all those foods (which I doubt), it is highly improbable that you are having an allergic reaction, as you would have had to have been consuming them for a while to "sensitize" your immune system to the point of developing a reaction against them.

In light of this, it is more likely you are having trouble digesting the foods due to there higher protein content. You may want to look into supplementing with digestive enzymes, as well as betaine HCL, which will help your body break down these high protein foods it is not accustomed to.

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

(92)

on March 24, 2013
at 06:44 PM

Thank you Levi, this is helpful information x

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089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on January 26, 2013
at 09:59 PM

it will take a little while for your body to get used to the animal products again. i had HORRENDOUS smelling poop for about 3 weeks until my bacteria changed in my gut. you might try digestive enzymes before your meal to help for now.

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

(92)

on January 27, 2013
at 07:29 AM

Thanks again Joanna. I'll look into digestive enzymes x

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on March 24, 2013
at 05:47 PM

also, I just saw an allergist about food allergy testing and she told me this. with a food allergy, you will have trouble breathing, chest pain, tongue/lip swelling/trouble swallowing. if you don't have these symptoms, it's just a food intolerance and not an allergy. for that very reason, she would not give me food allergy testing because I've never had these symptoms.

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

(92)

on April 07, 2013
at 03:57 PM

Thanks Joanna. I'm still having problems and was hospitalised last week for the pain. The doctors are looking into a bowel blockage, crohns, possible stomach tumour, and gallstones. I have an ultrasound next week so fingers crossed I'll find out more then. They've also discovered I've very low levels of thyroid and oestrogen, and that my liver function is abnormal. I've got an MRI scan booked for the end of the month to check pituitary function. Fingers crossed I'll soon have some answers as I'm struggling to eat anything without abdominal cramps, pain, bloating, nausea and occasional hives x

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on January 26, 2013
at 09:17 PM

I suggest you check out Denise Minger. As far as I know, when you don't eat certain foods, your body stops producing enzymes for that particular food and also the bacteria that suppose to feed off that food group dies out.

Anyway, I think you might want to start with grass-fed meat. If you want to start with eggs, very very carefully separate the whites and throw them away. Eat only the yolks - not a drop of egg whites.

If you want fish, I would go for raw sashimi - it is easier to digest than cooked fish.

But actually, I don't really know. I am just telling you what works for me. And dairy does not work for me. Only grass-fed meat. Good luck.

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

(92)

on January 27, 2013
at 07:27 AM

Thanks for your feedback VB I've checked out Denise Mingers website and she has some interesting articles and insights. I have been eating four eggs (yolks and whites) daily and find they seem to digest ok. In fact I could easily eat at least a dozen more, it's like my body craves them. I've had Plain prawns a few times now and straight after finishing my stomach cramps and bloats. This usually last at least 4-5 hours. It happened less with smoked mackerel, tuna and mussels but to a much lesser degree. I've enquired about raw fish but it's so expensive so is off the menu for now.

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

(92)

on January 27, 2013
at 07:28 AM

As for meat, I'm still struggling with eating it after over twenty years of it being off menu. There may come a time I try it soon as I'm beginning to open up to the idea of bone broth. Thanks again x

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44d244d6254dc133df6234cfb616a7d1

on January 26, 2013
at 08:30 PM

just take an antihistamine before each meal

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

(92)

on January 26, 2013
at 08:41 PM

Hi Big Poppa I had a sever allergic reaction to mushrooms at Christmas. My skin inflamed, blistered and my body swelled up. The doctors gave me anti-histamines then and I reacted to those as well by vomiting them back up. So I cannot see how that will help now? I would also like to understand the root cause so I can address that rather than mask the symptom. So do you have any idea whether it is the food I'm reacting to or is my body reacting to something new? Peace x

44d244d6254dc133df6234cfb616a7d1

(-7)

on January 27, 2013
at 01:26 AM

Faileo is not the answer...check out this puppy: http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=419742

22ed067dfadf3ce563b2f0b9f8bf70bb

(92)

on January 27, 2013
at 07:30 AM

Thanks Big Poppa. After reading that article I'm even more confused! How did you interpret the article? x

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 07, 2013
at 03:54 PM

In my inexpert opinion, this actually sounds like good advice. Obviously you shouldn't take an antihistamine before every meal for the rest of your life, but if taking powerful antihistamines prevents the reaction, then that does point to a bona fide allergy instead of another cause. If it doesn't help, I wouldn't rule out allergies, though.

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