I am on day 2 of Practical Paleo's Blood Sugar control plan. I've been working for a month on eating better and better (and also using up the last of the barley, quinoa, potatoes and cheese in my kitchen, because I really can't afford to throw food out... in fact, I really cant' afford to eat Paleo).
Today's problem is: I have eaten 4 chicken thighs and 2 turkey legs in the last 48 hours and about 2 hours after the turkey, I broke out in hives on my face and scalp, and am having a little asthma. I usually eat a lot more beef than chicken.
I'm very concerned that it's all the poultry. I've occasionally had exactly 1 hive spot after eating SAD restaurant chicken, but I have been telling myself "it must be something in the oil or breading...probably some nasty chemical." Never had a really bad reaction.
The chicken thighs were organic, but the turkey legs were from Foster Farms, basic conventional agribusiness meat.
So I am wondering if was something in the FEED. Or...
Dang. Thinking out loud here. In the antibiotics that conventional birds get. I'm allergic to about a half-dozen different antibiotics, all of which give me hives. Hmm.
You can tell, I really don't want to be allergic to poultry.
Although eating conventional birds, knowing what I know about them, makes me feel a little unhappy anyway, but I don't have easy access to pasture-raised or free-range. Not impossible to get, but it requires both money and some driving.
So I'm even saying to myself... maybe it's die-off? I don't think I've changed my diet rapidly or drastically enough for it to be die-off.
OK, here's an actual question: If I am going to back off of eating poultry and then try again, how long should I wait? (and that will really screw up the nice neat 4-week food plan).
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on February 13, 2013
at 01:15 AM
It's hard to say if it's the poultry, the feed, or the processing. Organic birds are still fed a commercial feed, most often with soy and corn. Organic MAY mean no GMO's in the feed, but I'm not positive about that. Even pastured chickens may be given some grain feed, but usually very little compared to non-pastured birds. So if it's the feed, you may have to avoid poultry anyway. It's really hard to find pastured chickens that are truly never given grain. We finally found a local farm with real pastured hens, but the farmer coaxes them into the coop at night with grain.
Poultry processing involves at some point dipping the bird into a solution of bleach and ???. Even organic ones. I think air chilled are still dipped in a solution, but somehow have less exposure than conventionally processed poultry. So you could be having a reaction to something involved in the processing, too.
The bad news is whether it's the chicken, feed, or processing, you may have to stay away from poultry. Poultry isn't the ideal paleo food, anyway, as there are higher concentrations of omega 6's in chicken than red meats (I don't know if the same is true for turkey and duck, however).
In any case you should see a doctor for allergy testing and to pinpoint exactly what it is you're allergic to. You don't want to be able to pinpoint exactly what it is AFTER you've gone into anaphalactic shock, and you need an emergency action plan because it may be something that's in more food than you suspect.
on February 12, 2013
at 08:32 AM
were the chicken legs/thighs spiced and prepared commercially? If so, it's a high food reward that drives your hives. I'm very susceptible to obesity and food addiction, and each time I eat something highly palatable (usually fast food/restaurant food) I get inflammation and hives. read Stephan Guyenet's series on food reward