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Hack this allergic reaction

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Created December 27, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Over the last few days I've developed a seemingly allergic reaction. I don't know what it could be from and I don't know how to fix it. Any help would be much appreciated:

Symptoms:
- extremely dry, red rash around eyes and nose (and behinds ears), but nowhere else. It itches pretty bad. Kind of like a very bad sunburn.
- puffy eyelids (mostly upper eyelids) upon waking up, gradually fading during the day. Which looks hilarious by the way, it has me looking like a wasp of some sorts.
- symptoms came in gradually over the course of ??48 hours.

Diet:
- I'm in the middle of a mass gain phase, so I was eating a lot (??5000kcal a day). All paleo, except some 1 to 2 liters of milk a day, some other dairy and some supplements (which I've listed below). I've done a GOMAD once before and never had any allergic reaction to it, by the way.

Supplements:
- ALA (one before every meal)
- Vit D3 5000IU
- Now Foods Super Enzymes (tablets, 1 before every meal)
- Niacinamide (non-flushing), once in the morning and once before bed.
- Micellar casein shake ( i know, i know, not very paleo) around 20g before bed.
- Creatine monohydrate
- L-Glutamine (only PWO)

N.B. I've started taking most of the supplements around 1 week ago (except Vit D & the super enzymes). I've also done creatine in the past without any problems.

Another possible culprit could be all the food I had for christmas. As far as I know I didn't consume any gluten, but I did have some white rice and lot's of sugar (as in tiramisu and creme brulees).

Being Dutch I handle diary pretty well, but if I was going to point out 2 possible suspects it would be the casein shakes and/or the niacinamide.

Pharmacy gave me some Cetirizinedihydrochloride 10mg (which is zyrtec in the states I believe). So far not working (4 hours in).

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on January 16, 2012
at 07:30 PM

I have it here somewhere, but if you just replace the ladyfingers with something like walnuts you're good to go :)

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on January 03, 2012
at 01:24 AM

Well I would love the lady finger free recipe if you can make it available!! Hope you're feeling better!

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on December 29, 2011
at 04:26 PM

Most second generation antihistamines take longer to kick in and don't work for as many people. Just my experience!

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on December 29, 2011
at 04:12 PM

Why a silly pharmacist? Zyrtec works wonders for me, but it makes me extremely tired. After all, zyrtec is belgian and Tom is dutch.

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on December 29, 2011
at 03:59 PM

Tom, try washing the area with a dandruff shampoo, dont get in eyes, it burns - A LOT.

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on December 29, 2011
at 03:58 PM

Tom, yes, see a dermatologist to confirm SD and they make a topical steroid that makes it much better (if thats what it is), OR try this, get some Selson Blue or other anti-dandruff shampoo and wash the spots with it. DONT GET IT IN EYES!!!!

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

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on December 29, 2011
at 03:52 PM

Have you tried an elimination diet and avoided the most common food allergens, like dairy, eggs, nuts, garlic, etc? The explanation "stress" wouldn't really satisfy me, there must be an underlying cause. Do you supplements contain any problematic fillers?

408b32d0900853851167089d730f1881

on December 28, 2011
at 10:02 PM

Um, not yet. am betting it'll take another day or so for that to subside.

0ee98c251b5eef357445aefec99c5d7b

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on December 28, 2011
at 03:59 PM

the skin peeling started on my upper eyelids. oh boy. I don't have any coconut oil around but i'll try olive oil. Is yours already clearing up?

408b32d0900853851167089d730f1881

on December 28, 2011
at 06:51 AM

It's not noticeable to most people - mostly to me! (coconut oil helps provide gentle exfoliation, tho...)

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on December 28, 2011
at 01:33 AM

hmm worth the try. i made some special tiramisu which didn't iclude the lady fingers ;) I think I haven't had any gluten (except in some beers) for about 1,5 years.

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on December 28, 2011
at 01:31 AM

however, I've never had skin problems before, so I'm not convinced, especially since I've been ± paleo for 2 years now.

0ee98c251b5eef357445aefec99c5d7b

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on December 28, 2011
at 01:29 AM

hmm, could be. However it's not quite as pronounced as they pictures I see under google images. Btw, any idea how to combat this?

0ee98c251b5eef357445aefec99c5d7b

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on December 28, 2011
at 01:26 AM

it's not quite a butterfly rash. It's more centered around the eyes, and not quite as red.

0ee98c251b5eef357445aefec99c5d7b

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on December 28, 2011
at 01:19 AM

luckily it's not quite as bad as that picture..

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on December 27, 2011
at 09:37 PM

This is what my thoughts were too. Specifically because of where the rash is (ears, eyelids, eyebrows, nose being the prominent facial spots affected).

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on December 27, 2011
at 07:58 PM

oh boy, i really hope the skin-peeling thingy doesn't happen to me ;)

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on December 27, 2011
at 07:43 PM

OK! Ascorbic Acid (Vit.C) is a good antihistamine, as well--best as a powder stirred into water.

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on December 27, 2011
at 06:46 PM

Don't take zyrtec! Apple cider vinegar solves my rashes in 20 minutes.

363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

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on December 27, 2011
at 05:36 PM

Tiramisu have wheat flour based lady's fingers. How long has it been since you have had wheat or gluten? I find that the longer I go without it and then have it, I get itchy red bumps on my legs, which go away within a week, but can be exacerbated by sugar. Hope you feel better soon!!

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on December 27, 2011
at 04:42 PM

Thanks for your response. Diphenhydramine isn't sold in the Netherlands because it supposedly has too much side-effects. I'm visiting relatives (parents). But I visit them once every month and I never get any kind of an allergic reaction to the sheets/pillows.

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1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

on December 27, 2011
at 08:02 PM

"extremely dry, red rash around eyes and nose (and behinds ears)"

possibly: Flaring Seborrhea Dermatitis (same thing as dandruff) aggravated by diet/excersise/sun exposure, etc.

0ee98c251b5eef357445aefec99c5d7b

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on December 28, 2011
at 01:29 AM

hmm, could be. However it's not quite as pronounced as they pictures I see under google images. Btw, any idea how to combat this?

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1801)

on December 27, 2011
at 09:37 PM

This is what my thoughts were too. Specifically because of where the rash is (ears, eyelids, eyebrows, nose being the prominent facial spots affected).

0ee98c251b5eef357445aefec99c5d7b

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on December 28, 2011
at 01:31 AM

however, I've never had skin problems before, so I'm not convinced, especially since I've been ± paleo for 2 years now.

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

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on December 29, 2011
at 03:58 PM

Tom, yes, see a dermatologist to confirm SD and they make a topical steroid that makes it much better (if thats what it is), OR try this, get some Selson Blue or other anti-dandruff shampoo and wash the spots with it. DONT GET IT IN EYES!!!!

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0ee98c251b5eef357445aefec99c5d7b

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on December 29, 2011
at 03:42 PM

Visited the doctor today, it's Seborrhea Dermatitis (as Efaitch and Bill1102inf correctly suggested).

Docter gave me clobetasone butyrate (Eumovate), which is a corticosteroid. He also told me it's most likely caused by stress, which is a plausible explanation since I was under the weather for the last 2 weeks yet still trained and ate like my life depended on it.

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

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on December 29, 2011
at 03:52 PM

Have you tried an elimination diet and avoided the most common food allergens, like dairy, eggs, nuts, garlic, etc? The explanation "stress" wouldn't really satisfy me, there must be an underlying cause. Do you supplements contain any problematic fillers?

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

(6719)

on December 29, 2011
at 03:59 PM

Tom, try washing the area with a dandruff shampoo, dont get in eyes, it burns - A LOT.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on December 27, 2011
at 04:29 PM

I'm with Drangonfly. And megtuo makes a great point about dust mites; I have that allergy and I use special pillow casings.

Assuming for a moment that it isn't dust mites, figure out all the things that have been different. Start eliminating the new things and add them back one at a time. Allow 3 days for reactions to build between adding things.

There does seem to be a general trend that people who clean up their diets and then splurge or add/change supplements and foods have more intense reactions to things than they did in the past. I think our bodies were overwhelmed before and couldn't give us clear signals. That's good, really, as we are clearly finding out exactly what does/doesn't work for us.

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on December 27, 2011
at 06:05 PM

The fighter mask is indicative of an egg allergy.It happened to meet when I started cutting for my first show and was eating a lot of whites. I still have to limit or I puff up.

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on December 27, 2011
at 10:18 PM

Google butterfly rash on the internet and look at the images. you describe a butterfly rash. does it look the same as those?

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on December 27, 2011
at 10:06 PM

Google butterfly rash on the internet and look at the images. you describe a butterfly rash. does it look the same as those?

0ee98c251b5eef357445aefec99c5d7b

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on December 28, 2011
at 01:26 AM

it's not quite a butterfly rash. It's more centered around the eyes, and not quite as red.

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on December 27, 2011
at 09:02 PM

images of a symetrical, itchy, red, rash connected to gluten.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatitis_herpetiformis

0ee98c251b5eef357445aefec99c5d7b

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on December 28, 2011
at 01:19 AM

luckily it's not quite as bad as that picture..

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on December 27, 2011
at 07:34 PM

It could be a nut of some kind, my kid can't eat peanuts.

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on December 27, 2011
at 05:50 PM

The VERY same thing happened to me a few days ago! Only Benadryl did nothing for it - left eye was practically swollen shut, both eyes had puffy bags under them, skin was hot and tight.

But the ITCHING was the very worst of it.

Ended up in urgent care yesterday AM, where I got a steroid shot, a course of steroid pills, and was told to keep using the Benadryl for at least next 24 hours. They also prescribed Pepcid AC - as it's an antihistamine that acts on a different receptor (H2) than the Benadryl (H1).

I'm betting it's the Chinese food I ate on Xmas eve - either that or the white rice?? Can't think of anything else I would have eaten (stayed fairly strict Paleo during the holidays, in fact).

Just wait until the skin starts peeling, though - it's a lizard-like experience! (Am using coconut oil to try and keep things moisturized.)

0ee98c251b5eef357445aefec99c5d7b

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on December 28, 2011
at 03:59 PM

the skin peeling started on my upper eyelids. oh boy. I don't have any coconut oil around but i'll try olive oil. Is yours already clearing up?

0ee98c251b5eef357445aefec99c5d7b

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on December 27, 2011
at 07:58 PM

oh boy, i really hope the skin-peeling thingy doesn't happen to me ;)

408b32d0900853851167089d730f1881

on December 28, 2011
at 06:51 AM

It's not noticeable to most people - mostly to me! (coconut oil helps provide gentle exfoliation, tho...)

408b32d0900853851167089d730f1881

on December 28, 2011
at 10:02 PM

Um, not yet. am betting it'll take another day or so for that to subside.

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on December 27, 2011
at 05:47 PM

I'm going to suggest one other idea besides allergy: consider a skin infection like tinea faciei http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinea_faciei

I pick up the fungus called "ring worm" very easily from pets, cats especially. It can grow on the skin anywhere but it likes to set up shop in the nose creases and outside corner of the eyes, haven't heard about behind the ears.

Applying gentle skin tonics that are "anti" everything like very dilute tea tree oil, grapefruit seed extract etc might help. VERY dilute anything you try on your face.

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on December 27, 2011
at 05:18 PM

My bet is on the Christmas food. Something in there your body didn't agree with.

I've found that Loratadine (US-brand: Claritin) works fairly well and fast. No experience with Zyrtec however, should be similar. Both sometime require a little induction phase (a few doses) before optimal effects are observed.

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on December 27, 2011
at 04:27 PM

Dust mites? Try washing your sheets, pillowcase, and pillow in very hot water or popping them in the dryer (high heat cycle) for 20 minutes or so.

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on December 27, 2011
at 04:20 PM

Silly Pharmacist. Ask for Diphenhydramine, aka Benadryl in the States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphenhydramine) Works a lot faster. Good for food allergies as well as contact allergies.

Were you visiting relatives? My husband got a rash from my mum's sheets (the laundry detergent) when we visited last year.

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on December 27, 2011
at 04:42 PM

Thanks for your response. Diphenhydramine isn't sold in the Netherlands because it supposedly has too much side-effects. I'm visiting relatives (parents). But I visit them once every month and I never get any kind of an allergic reaction to the sheets/pillows.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on December 27, 2011
at 07:43 PM

OK! Ascorbic Acid (Vit.C) is a good antihistamine, as well--best as a powder stirred into water.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on December 29, 2011
at 04:26 PM

Most second generation antihistamines take longer to kick in and don't work for as many people. Just my experience!

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on December 29, 2011
at 04:12 PM

Why a silly pharmacist? Zyrtec works wonders for me, but it makes me extremely tired. After all, zyrtec is belgian and Tom is dutch.

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