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Lover of Beer! What do I do?

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Created March 15, 2012 at 11:42 PM

I have been eating Paleo and have not had a beer in over 2 weeks. I am a huge fan of beer, especially craft beers and local breweries. I know that there are gluten free beers out there, but is that enough? Will indulging in beer ruin what I have been trying to do for my nutrition? Does anyone have any suggestions on any brands that are ok? I also love wine- which I know is full of sugar. Not so sure what to do when I go out for drinks. Suggestions are well appreciated :)

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on June 06, 2014
at 06:05 PM

I agree. I went months without beer until recently. I went out and bought my favorite IPA, had two, and felt fine! I did go a little overboard though, having two or three per night for the next 3-4 days but got that out of my system. Beer is pretty nutritious. A lot better than a soda.

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on June 05, 2014
at 02:57 PM

I like it PT.

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at 02:53 PM

That's keeping it real Jen19 lol! My father is law is meticulous with his diet never eating later than 6:30, only using evoo, never seconds, no peppers, blah, blah, blah. He's had a triple bi pass and had his gall bladder removed and has been diagnosed with crohn's in the past year.

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mmmm pale ale, i haven't had one for aaaaages

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You're right, I`m surprised and stand corrected; my assumption that it has more than that came from the anecdotal case of my grandfather in England who was prescribed a Guinness a day by his physician in very old age because iron supplements didn't agree with him... unfortunately it was wasted on him as he hated the taste.

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on May 22, 2013
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Guinness does not have "a lot" of iron. A pint of Guinness has 0.3mg of iron -- i.e. you'd need to drink 3 pints to equal the iron in one egg. And besides, that's less than 4% of RDA needs. Guinness is however a low calorie beer choice, so if you're going to drink empty calories from beer, Guinness is a good choice.

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on February 18, 2013
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Strap on those electrodes and take your shock treatment straight up. Er, ear buds.

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on February 18, 2013
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Blue Mountain dry. And anything from Normandy.

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on June 29, 2012
at 07:02 AM

yea... i had a beer the other night... fin du monde... and i found no negative reaction. though if i eat bread, grains, other things that aren't completely healthy (like i bought bacon from a local farmer, didn't realize it was salted, brown sugared and smoked, and it made my stomach hurt all night) negative reaction. so i'm not ready to never have beer ever again.

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on March 16, 2012
at 03:27 PM

Stouts and porters are my favorite too. I am not against cider at all, I was worried that it may have too much sugar in it, but it seems to be the common beverage choice of most Paleo followers. Thanks for the Advice.

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at 03:25 PM

I've considered that, but have never made beer before-I would love some advice and recipes. Thanks!

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on March 16, 2012
at 02:38 PM

Crispin cider is my wife's favorite. It is fairly strong, so you don't need much and it tastes pretty darn good. I stick to my IPAs and just pay for it, though

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on March 16, 2012
at 02:28 PM

i've tried brewing a barley-based beer with this enzyme, Clarity Ferm, before. it definitely lessens my gluten reaction but does not get rid of it all together. for anyone who is fairly sensitive, i'd be weary of drinking the beer. if you're already drinking regular beer though, then it would be a step in the right direction

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on March 16, 2012
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Enter the Hairsplitting comment - Fruit-juice honey wine is **not** mead, but melomel (grape and honey wine is a pyment irrc). Mead fermented with spices is metheglin.

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on March 16, 2012
at 02:13 PM

When I drink, I drink cider. I just have to make certain that it's not a brand that adds sugar post-fermentation.

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on March 16, 2012
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Well, almost all the crossfit guys I know are paleo + beer and it works for them. YMMV, obviously.

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on March 16, 2012
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+1 I've switched to cider. Beer makes me congested now. *shrug* Oh, and I LOVE beer.

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on March 16, 2012
at 12:59 PM

I had Dogfish Head's gluten-free beer about a month ago. Can't say I was a fan, but they deserve credit for trying not to make it taste like a regular beer, and it definitely doesn't.

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on March 16, 2012
at 03:36 AM

Interesting, this is good to have in mind. I like beer but went paleo so soon after I could legally have it. I may have to try it sometime... when I don't have to be too quick on the draw for the next week or so, just in case ;)

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:42 AM

Ditto. Drink beer. Cheers!

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:40 AM

Your lack of gluten intolerance symptoms in comparison to bread isn't too surprising, given the amount of processing the grains go through- soaking, sprouting, and then varied levels of roasting to get the malted grains, and then when actually making the beer, boiling for at least an hour, followed by fermentation.

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:35 AM

I hear that dogfishhead brewery is releasing a gluten free beer between seasons. Apparently they approached it differently than other gluten-free beers and embraced the ingredients instead of trying to make it taste like a real barley beer.

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on March 16, 2012
at 12:08 AM

Would be interesting to see how it affects you. I find now if I have a small beer the next day I feel dreadful - like I'm coming down with the flu! So for me it's just not worth it. I think knowning exactly how it impacts you will play a big part in your strategy.

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on March 15, 2012
at 11:46 PM

Ha, I was just wondering the same thing. Gluten free beer has been a major disappointment in my experience.

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on March 16, 2012
at 12:50 AM

Jessica - I have a similar issue. I am a big fan of craft brews, especially pale ales and IPAs. I really enjoy them and I was enjoying them frequently for several years (read as daily). For me, the only answer was to cut beer completely, which I did in early December of last year. I haven't touched it since then. I thought that I would miss it more than I have. Now and then I think of a coldish glass of Sierra Nevada. I feel so good now though, that it's easy to leave it behind. I do occassionally have a drink in social settings, but it tends to be about once per week now. In those cases I've learned to appreciate good scotch and good bourbon. Perhaps you could try something similar or other spirits...maybe a really good dirty martini?

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on May 22, 2013
at 04:30 PM

mmmm pale ale, i haven't had one for aaaaages

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on March 16, 2012
at 02:45 AM

screw that gluten free crap- drink good honest beer - enjoy it and move on. Just don't go nuts. And anytime you feel human and need to cheat- always use the real thing, not some cheap fake alternative product. Eat it, get it over, pay the price and move on.

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on June 29, 2012
at 07:02 AM

yea... i had a beer the other night... fin du monde... and i found no negative reaction. though if i eat bread, grains, other things that aren't completely healthy (like i bought bacon from a local farmer, didn't realize it was salted, brown sugared and smoked, and it made my stomach hurt all night) negative reaction. so i'm not ready to never have beer ever again.

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on June 06, 2014
at 06:05 PM

I agree. I went months without beer until recently. I went out and bought my favorite IPA, had two, and felt fine! I did go a little overboard though, having two or three per night for the next 3-4 days but got that out of my system. Beer is pretty nutritious. A lot better than a soda.

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:30 AM

Haha everyone knows beer doesn't count!.. chiill. Happiness is part of health y'know.

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:42 AM

Ditto. Drink beer. Cheers!

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on March 16, 2012
at 12:05 AM

What about Cider? There are so many on good boutique ones on the market now. Might be a good alternative?

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on March 16, 2012
at 02:13 PM

When I drink, I drink cider. I just have to make certain that it's not a brand that adds sugar post-fermentation.

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on March 16, 2012
at 02:38 PM

Crispin cider is my wife's favorite. It is fairly strong, so you don't need much and it tastes pretty darn good. I stick to my IPAs and just pay for it, though

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:26 PM

+1 I've switched to cider. Beer makes me congested now. *shrug* Oh, and I LOVE beer.

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on February 18, 2013
at 11:03 PM

Blue Mountain dry. And anything from Normandy.

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on March 16, 2012
at 03:49 AM

I say if you feel like a beer, have a beer- just not six. \ I am a wine lover myself though, and I feel like a nice, dry, robust red is probably the healthiest go of it- lots of info out there suggesting it's good for the heart, particularly for women. Not as carb-y as beer, and you can't exactly slowly sip a nice glass of tequila with your rare steak (well, maybe you can, but not me personally).

But as long as it's in moderation, don't stress. You could be ultra paleo and set to live to 1000 and get hit by a bus tomorrow.

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on June 05, 2014
at 02:53 PM

That's keeping it real Jen19 lol! My father is law is meticulous with his diet never eating later than 6:30, only using evoo, never seconds, no peppers, blah, blah, blah. He's had a triple bi pass and had his gall bladder removed and has been diagnosed with crohn's in the past year.

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:01 AM

If you're a beer lover like me who also HATES wine, see if you can get your hands on some mead. It's pretty hard to find (at least here in San Diego, CA).

I have learned to brew my own mead. It's really easy and tastes incredible. You can use any type of fruit juice that you want. Just use 3 lbs of honey per gallon of liquid. I like to make pomegranate mead with equal parts pomegranate juice and white grape juice

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on March 16, 2012
at 02:17 PM

Enter the Hairsplitting comment - Fruit-juice honey wine is **not** mead, but melomel (grape and honey wine is a pyment irrc). Mead fermented with spices is metheglin.

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on March 16, 2012
at 04:07 AM

Everytime I miss my Duchesse or Oude Gueuze, I fire up Lustig's video and review what alcohol does to the liver. . . I do miss my beautiful beautiful Belgians.

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on February 18, 2013
at 11:04 PM

Strap on those electrodes and take your shock treatment straight up. Er, ear buds.

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on March 16, 2012
at 12:02 AM

FWIW, I have an occasional beer & even though I am gluten-intolerant, I have no symptoms, if I have just 1 or 2 a week. Just one bite of bread is a problem for me, though! YMMV.

Both wine & beer seem to help my digestion, though maybe that's psychological?

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:40 AM

Your lack of gluten intolerance symptoms in comparison to bread isn't too surprising, given the amount of processing the grains go through- soaking, sprouting, and then varied levels of roasting to get the malted grains, and then when actually making the beer, boiling for at least an hour, followed by fermentation.

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on March 16, 2012
at 03:36 AM

Interesting, this is good to have in mind. I like beer but went paleo so soon after I could legally have it. I may have to try it sometime... when I don't have to be too quick on the draw for the next week or so, just in case ;)

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:06 PM

I too love beer and will have one from time-to-time. Because it makes me feel congested and unwell the next day, I stick to just one and save it for special occasions, such as new releases from my favorite breweries or a new beer I've never seen or tried. Other than that, I stick to ciders to get that fizzy deliciousness, which can be hard in the winter, winter is beer season for me since I love stouts and porters.

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on March 16, 2012
at 03:27 PM

Stouts and porters are my favorite too. I am not against cider at all, I was worried that it may have too much sugar in it, but it seems to be the common beverage choice of most Paleo followers. Thanks for the Advice.

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on March 16, 2012
at 04:16 AM

Unless you're in the middle if like a 30 day detox have a beer! Have a few the way you would in the past. Obviously not at every meal and not so many you're getting drunk. And for the record the grains in beer have been soaked and fermented down one side to the next so gluten is the last of your worries. Forget the "gluten" free crap. I'm gluten sensitive and find I can drink a nice high quality beer with no issues. But again I treat like I would sweets. It's a special treat.

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on March 16, 2012
at 04:07 AM

Life isn't the same without Arrogant Bastard... but, through my experimentation over the last year I've decided that the only rule I can NEVER break is the gluten thing.

You may want to see how you react personally, and decide if the pleasure is worth the trade off.

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on March 16, 2012
at 03:45 AM

make your own. i'll help give you some recipes if you're interested. i make a batch every couple of weeks

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on February 18, 2015
at 07:23 PM

Yes please! Do share if you get this comment. My boyfriend has got MS and beer is the only thing that makes him reluctant to do the paleo diet (which helped reverse the MS condition in the famous success story of Dr Walhs).  Hope you get this message and can share your recipes. Thanks!

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on February 18, 2015
at 07:23 PM

Yes please! Do share if you get this comment. My boyfriend has got MS and beer is the only thing that makes him reluctant to do the paleo diet (which helped reverse the MS condition in the famous success story of Dr Walhs).  Hope you get this message and can share your recipes. Thanks!

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on March 16, 2012
at 03:25 PM

I've considered that, but have never made beer before-I would love some advice and recipes. Thanks!

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on March 16, 2012
at 03:24 AM

Having a beer or 2 probably won't do anything to you. But, it could. You don't know until you experience it yourself.

So, I say... Enjoy a beer or 2! Nothing more. Pay attention to how you feel and go from there.

Since beer is a fermented drink its far easier on our digestive system compared to regular ole grain foods like bread.

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on June 05, 2014
at 02:57 PM

I like it PT.

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on March 16, 2012
at 02:23 AM

If you click on my name, you???ll see my stance on this issue. =p This won???t be popular, but my opinion???even if I didn???t like beer???is that for autoimmune issues (which is why I went Paleo), O6 fats can sometimes be a more important factor than gluten. Not that gluten is innocuous, but I can handle a burger a thousand times better than gluten-free asian food stir fried in a metric ton of vegetable oil. Hell, too many cruciferous vegetables seems to be worse for me than gluten.

If I drink too much beer the combination of alcohol and gluten wrecks my system, but if I drink a reasonable amount and only drink a few days a week I seem to fare just as well as when I completely abstain. If you find it doesn???t do you too much harm, I say you can keep at it as long as you treat it as a cheat; in fact, I???ve found that if anything, my love of craft beer caused me to go stricter on Paleo. Doesn???t hurt that the craft beer movement also tends to love things Paleos love such as local ingredients.

And don???t go the gluten-free beer route. Those are awful. The DFH Tweason'ale is the only thing I can stand, but it doesn???t taste remotely like beer ??? more of a bubbly fruity drink.

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:41 PM

Well, almost all the crossfit guys I know are paleo + beer and it works for them. YMMV, obviously.

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on June 06, 2014
at 07:54 AM

Try for cider beers, but if you are OK with a gluten free alternative, sorghum will do as well. Woodchuck Angry Orchard is some suggestions as you are following paleo. Regarding Wine Choose 100% organic from sustainable farms.

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on May 22, 2013
at 03:48 PM

"Will indulging in beer ruin what I have been trying to do for my nutrition?"

Depends on what you mean by "indulging". One or two here and there, sure, no problem for most people. 30 or 40? Whole other deal.

Usually if you want to get the ultra-low body fat or reduce lots of weight rapidly, you need to chop out a lot of things like this because it slows you down. If you're maintaining, it's less of an issue for reasonable numbers.

It really depends on your personal goals and how your body reacts to it though. You'll need to keep an eye on things and adjust depending on your results and your goals.

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on May 22, 2013
at 03:31 PM

I still drink beer. It's the only grain-product I still consume.

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on May 22, 2013
at 01:02 PM

I mostly drink Guinness which has alot of iron so not totally empty calories although more iron than most people need myself included. My perpective on it is that I have a number in mind for carbs so as long as I fit the beer into that then it's not a big problem since it's the only non-"safe"-starch that I consume and it's only about 2-3 a week on average. I probably absorb more toxins biking in traffic or drinking fluids stored in plastic containers. I will sometimes put a beer into my 30-minute carb backloading window post workout.

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on May 22, 2013
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Guinness does not have "a lot" of iron. A pint of Guinness has 0.3mg of iron -- i.e. you'd need to drink 3 pints to equal the iron in one egg. And besides, that's less than 4% of RDA needs. Guinness is however a low calorie beer choice, so if you're going to drink empty calories from beer, Guinness is a good choice.

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on May 22, 2013
at 03:44 PM

You're right, I`m surprised and stand corrected; my assumption that it has more than that came from the anecdotal case of my grandfather in England who was prescribed a Guinness a day by his physician in very old age because iron supplements didn't agree with him... unfortunately it was wasted on him as he hated the taste.

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on May 22, 2013
at 12:54 PM

Don't forget the 80/20 maxim.

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on February 18, 2013
at 04:25 PM

Life style and goal choice. If you enjoy it a lot, as I do, and it doesn't screw you up when you enjoy it I say enjoy away in moderation. I love enjoying a locally brewed hoppy IPA while cooking dinner and I don't notice any negative feels from it. I find it very relaxing as well. One or two once or twice a week is a lot different than 5-6 beers...5-6 days of week of course.

If you're training for the Crossfit Games or something then you'll obviously have to re-evaluate your choices, priorities, goals, and consumption of beer.

BTW - the gluten free beer alternative as a solution to me is like someone wanting to enjoy home made fudge brownies once a week but you go out and buy fat free and sugar free snackwells or something. Doesn't quite meet the mark or scratch the itch if you follow me.

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on February 18, 2013
at 04:10 PM

Well you can do what I did: stop drinking it! I used to love beers. I live in the microbrew capital of the world and used to treat good beers like fine wines. But I noticed that as I cleaned up my diet even small amounts of beer made me really sick. Then I read about all the phytoestrogens in hops (and IPAs were my favorite!). Look around at all the men who really like beer. They all have man boobs and womanly shoulders and hips. That was enough to keep me away from beer for the last 4 years and I've never thought of going back.

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on February 18, 2013
at 08:58 AM

Beer was at a stage in human development the primary food source as water was not always the cleanest, where as beer production kills off the germs and makes them taste awesome. Im drinking beer and doing Paleo, hopefully, its not a bad thing

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on March 16, 2012
at 05:50 AM

Two Brothers Brewing- Prairie Path -a conventionally brewed beer that uses an enzyme that prevents chill haze and also happens to denature gluten. They just got tested by FDA at 5ppm gluten. The new packaging that markets it as gluten free isn't out yet , but all Prairie Path is well under the 20ppm required to be labeled gluten free. Taste is like REAL BEER, I'd put the flavor around the wheel house of Fat Tire or Bass .

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on March 16, 2012
at 02:28 PM

i've tried brewing a barley-based beer with this enzyme, Clarity Ferm, before. it definitely lessens my gluten reaction but does not get rid of it all together. for anyone who is fairly sensitive, i'd be weary of drinking the beer. if you're already drinking regular beer though, then it would be a step in the right direction

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on March 16, 2012
at 12:51 AM

I bought gluten free beer for superbowl since all our snacks were paleo and i didn't want to ruin it too much. i drank the whole 6 pack, felt nothing but pretty crappy for downing 6 beers. but i noticed that nothing really gives me the buzz i used to get. i just feel shitty the next day. does this happen to anyone else? my bf bought me patron tequila since i read from robb wolf that it was the best drink to have once in a while. literally took shot after shot and nothing. like i said, i just feel like complete crap the next day.

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