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Kahlua replacement ideas for my White Russian?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 04, 2011 at 7:01 PM

I'm a big fan of white russians. Current recipe is 2 large shots of heavy cream, 1 shot of vodka and 1/2 shot of Kahlua. I sometimes replace the heavy cream with coconut milk. Good vodka made from Potatoes (I think). Anyways, what can I use to replace Kahlua to make this closer to a Paleo(ish) drink?

B59650ee8ed7570eeaf3f785d1f816ef

on February 17, 2012
at 12:22 AM

Alcohol IS NOT a carbohydrate. Alcohol is an alcohol. Nor does it get converted into a sugar. The metabolic pathway for ethanol(the alcohol found in drinks) is: C2H6O(Ethanol) -> C2H4O(Acetaldehyde) -> C2H4O2(acetic Acid) -> Acetyl-CoA -> 3H2O+2CO2 At no step is there a sugar molecule (6 carbon atoms). Unless you have evidence that any of the molecules in the above path trigger rises in insulin, your claims are completely false and misleading. Alcohol's only function in the body is to be burnt up for energy.

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on May 28, 2011
at 02:56 AM

It's a stronger beverage, whereas coffee's more watery. I'd think it would impart more coffee flavor per ounce, thus a more effective replacement for Kahlua.

C2502365891cbcc8af2d1cf1d7b0e9fc

(2437)

on May 28, 2011
at 02:06 AM

what's the difference?

5472f6c94387c7fc82a04da4885363b0

(353)

on February 14, 2011
at 06:43 PM

Tried this a couple times now. I would also add a splash of vanilla.

D67e7b481854b02110d5a5b21d6789b1

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on February 05, 2011
at 03:59 AM

even the Nihilists would approve :)

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

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on February 05, 2011
at 01:17 AM

Good points from the commenters, but I think Mr. T still has a point in that he might want to avoid the sickeningly sweet taste of the kahlua. Even if there's more alcohol than sugar in his drink, an alcoholic drink need not be sugary. To me it makes a real difference, at least psychologically. Which is more than nothing.

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on February 05, 2011
at 12:05 AM

THE DUDE ABIDES....funniest movie EVER!

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on February 04, 2011
at 11:25 PM

THE DUDE APPROVES!

D67e7b481854b02110d5a5b21d6789b1

(4111)

on February 04, 2011
at 10:59 PM

yep, this answer is my vote!

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on February 04, 2011
at 10:01 PM

I'm pretty much agreed, the figure I saw was up to 24g/jigger, which isn't much in the scheme of things. I also suspect though that espresso and a lesser amount of sugar would probably be pretty comparable.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on February 04, 2011
at 09:56 PM

@joe a good point about purity, but even if you're eating a stick of butter per day, you'll be getting less than a gram of dairy protein and lactose, whereas even drinking occasionally, you'll be consuming a greater quantity of alcohol/sugar (and tbh I suspect that alcohol is a lot more harmful per gram than lactose).

76f3ead3aa977d876bcf3331d35a36e9

(4620)

on February 04, 2011
at 09:31 PM

This is kinda carb fear-mongering. Paleo does not equal absolutely-no-carbs-ever-or-else-you-die.

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on February 04, 2011
at 09:25 PM

On that note, this is a fine stand-in for brewed coffee (the 5-star rated Mount Hagen Organic Freeze Dried Decaffeinated Coffee): http://www.amazon.com/Mount-Hagen-Organic-Decaffeinated-3-53-Ounce/dp/B000ESJR2A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=grocery&qid=1296854649&sr=8-1 I have bought the 6-ct. on Subscribe and Save a couple of times at least to use as my morning coffee. Love it!

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on February 04, 2011
at 09:05 PM

+1 for white russians

D628a7339e8567f7246fc0cf652acacf

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on February 04, 2011
at 09:02 PM

1/2 shot has 5.6g sugar. I don't call that a lot. (source: http://www.drinksmixer.com/desc292.html) Half of the sugar would be fructose, which is the evil component. Fructose is handled in the liver, just like... alcohol. There's probably about 9g alcohol in your drink vs. 3g fructose. If you're drinking enough of these for the fructose to be a problem then you'll have other, bigger problems.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 04, 2011
at 08:58 PM

Yea but liquor that is 100% distilled shouldn't contain any carbs. 100% potato vodka is just pure alcohol, so is 100% tequila. If you ask me it's more dangerous to eat dairy in the form of butter everyday than it is to have an alcoholic drink on occasion at a party.

3e6c0ab969e49e2f341d6a55ac771cc4

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on February 04, 2011
at 08:52 PM

Google "home made kaluha" and you'll get a bunch of recipes. It's basically coffee, vanilla, sugar and some form of alcohol. I've used vodka but I've heard of others using brandy or even tequila.

5472f6c94387c7fc82a04da4885363b0

(353)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:43 PM

I didn't downvote you, but I think life without a little alcohol every once in a while might fall into the "fail-eo" category. An otherwise "healthy" low carb diet with the inclusion of a shot of vodka or two shouldn't lead to an imminent death.

5472f6c94387c7fc82a04da4885363b0

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on February 04, 2011
at 08:41 PM

hmm, nice. Thanks for the idea

5472f6c94387c7fc82a04da4885363b0

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on February 04, 2011
at 08:39 PM

I'm not worried about the alcohol. Kahlua is full of sugar.

37f4b3c51afbd92d259afaa171270874

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on February 04, 2011
at 08:01 PM

Where do you find a kaluha recipe?

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290ad32289628be8f417224c8ccae9b3

(60)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:28 PM

I soak espresso grinds in potato vodka for a while and then filter using coffee filters. White Russians using coconut cream and potato vodka. Score.

D67e7b481854b02110d5a5b21d6789b1

(4111)

on February 04, 2011
at 10:59 PM

yep, this answer is my vote!

5472f6c94387c7fc82a04da4885363b0

(353)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:41 PM

hmm, nice. Thanks for the idea

5472f6c94387c7fc82a04da4885363b0

(353)

on February 14, 2011
at 06:43 PM

Tried this a couple times now. I would also add a splash of vanilla.

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Efc949694a31043bfce9ec86e8235cd7

on February 04, 2011
at 11:33 PM

Something similar I drink: Cuban Coffee!

Big mug full of 2 parts awesome dark roast coffee, 1 part heavy cream, then add a shot of Bacardi rum. Ice it if you want to get technical about it, but I dig it hot.

Tastes nearly identical to a White Russian to me! =)

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Fe535c4994ac6176f76e1ff6d29eb08a

on February 04, 2011
at 11:23 PM

If all you are really going to use the faux Kahlua for is White Russians, I would skip the whole idea of a Kahlua component altogether. Since all Kahlua really is is vodka, coffee, and sugar, and youre already adding vodka to the drink, add a touch more vodka and a shot or two of espresso, some cream and viola!

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A231170e329756974c79cd8d2116351c

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on February 04, 2011
at 08:44 PM

Maybe you could mix instant decaf granules with the vodka?

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on February 04, 2011
at 09:25 PM

On that note, this is a fine stand-in for brewed coffee (the 5-star rated Mount Hagen Organic Freeze Dried Decaffeinated Coffee): http://www.amazon.com/Mount-Hagen-Organic-Decaffeinated-3-53-Ounce/dp/B000ESJR2A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=grocery&qid=1296854649&sr=8-1 I have bought the 6-ct. on Subscribe and Save a couple of times at least to use as my morning coffee. Love it!

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3e6c0ab969e49e2f341d6a55ac771cc4

(420)

on February 04, 2011
at 07:57 PM

I would make my own kaluha following any recipe but leave out the sugar. Then when it was time to mix the drink I might use a vanilla vodka. Yes, we all know that alcohol isn't good for you, but I personally think a drink every once in a while is a pleasure that outweighs the detriment.

This talks about carbs and alcohol. http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/truth-about-alcohol-fat-loss-and-muscle.html

3e6c0ab969e49e2f341d6a55ac771cc4

(420)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:52 PM

Google "home made kaluha" and you'll get a bunch of recipes. It's basically coffee, vanilla, sugar and some form of alcohol. I've used vodka but I've heard of others using brandy or even tequila.

37f4b3c51afbd92d259afaa171270874

(1219)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:01 PM

Where do you find a kaluha recipe?

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D628a7339e8567f7246fc0cf652acacf

on February 04, 2011
at 07:25 PM

I dunno how many of these you drink in a sitting but I have a hard time believing that 1/2 shot of Kahlua is going to be a big deal...

I mean if you're that worried about it maybe you shouldn't be drinking the alcohol at all!

5472f6c94387c7fc82a04da4885363b0

(353)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:39 PM

I'm not worried about the alcohol. Kahlua is full of sugar.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on February 05, 2011
at 01:17 AM

Good points from the commenters, but I think Mr. T still has a point in that he might want to avoid the sickeningly sweet taste of the kahlua. Even if there's more alcohol than sugar in his drink, an alcoholic drink need not be sugary. To me it makes a real difference, at least psychologically. Which is more than nothing.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on February 04, 2011
at 10:01 PM

I'm pretty much agreed, the figure I saw was up to 24g/jigger, which isn't much in the scheme of things. I also suspect though that espresso and a lesser amount of sugar would probably be pretty comparable.

D628a7339e8567f7246fc0cf652acacf

(639)

on February 04, 2011
at 09:02 PM

1/2 shot has 5.6g sugar. I don't call that a lot. (source: http://www.drinksmixer.com/desc292.html) Half of the sugar would be fructose, which is the evil component. Fructose is handled in the liver, just like... alcohol. There's probably about 9g alcohol in your drink vs. 3g fructose. If you're drinking enough of these for the fructose to be a problem then you'll have other, bigger problems.

0
06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on February 04, 2011
at 07:44 PM

There is no alcohol that is paleo-ish. Alcohol is a carbohydrate and converts directly to some forms of sugar, goes into the bloodsteam and spikes sugar. Then the pancreas secretes insulin to control the blood sugar. Do that over years and years...not just with alcohol but other carb products like wheat products, corn products, products with sugar in them...and you are looking at the pancreas pooping out on its ability to secrete the insulin. That's what is called diabetes...which can lead directly to a coronary heart event later in life. Alcohol as well as carbs are just a slow killer. Enjoy your black russians. You may not later.

76f3ead3aa977d876bcf3331d35a36e9

(4620)

on February 04, 2011
at 09:31 PM

This is kinda carb fear-mongering. Paleo does not equal absolutely-no-carbs-ever-or-else-you-die.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on February 04, 2011
at 09:56 PM

@joe a good point about purity, but even if you're eating a stick of butter per day, you'll be getting less than a gram of dairy protein and lactose, whereas even drinking occasionally, you'll be consuming a greater quantity of alcohol/sugar (and tbh I suspect that alcohol is a lot more harmful per gram than lactose).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:58 PM

Yea but liquor that is 100% distilled shouldn't contain any carbs. 100% potato vodka is just pure alcohol, so is 100% tequila. If you ask me it's more dangerous to eat dairy in the form of butter everyday than it is to have an alcoholic drink on occasion at a party.

5472f6c94387c7fc82a04da4885363b0

(353)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:43 PM

I didn't downvote you, but I think life without a little alcohol every once in a while might fall into the "fail-eo" category. An otherwise "healthy" low carb diet with the inclusion of a shot of vodka or two shouldn't lead to an imminent death.

B59650ee8ed7570eeaf3f785d1f816ef

on February 17, 2012
at 12:22 AM

Alcohol IS NOT a carbohydrate. Alcohol is an alcohol. Nor does it get converted into a sugar. The metabolic pathway for ethanol(the alcohol found in drinks) is: C2H6O(Ethanol) -> C2H4O(Acetaldehyde) -> C2H4O2(acetic Acid) -> Acetyl-CoA -> 3H2O+2CO2 At no step is there a sugar molecule (6 carbon atoms). Unless you have evidence that any of the molecules in the above path trigger rises in insulin, your claims are completely false and misleading. Alcohol's only function in the body is to be burnt up for energy.

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07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on February 04, 2011
at 07:19 PM

Maybe espresso would work better than coffee.

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on May 28, 2011
at 02:56 AM

It's a stronger beverage, whereas coffee's more watery. I'd think it would impart more coffee flavor per ounce, thus a more effective replacement for Kahlua.

C2502365891cbcc8af2d1cf1d7b0e9fc

(2437)

on May 28, 2011
at 02:06 AM

what's the difference?

0
D67e7b481854b02110d5a5b21d6789b1

on February 04, 2011
at 07:12 PM

Coffee, straight up?

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