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Is potato-based vodka paleo-friendly?

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Created September 26, 2010 at 12:16 AM

Obviously, the scientific evidence is against wheat-based vodka; what about vodka made with potatoes?

I can imagine our paleolithic ancestors getting drunk form vodka if they had the chance.

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on February 26, 2012
at 06:55 PM

I wonder if that works with kefir . Pee kefir ... yuck

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on January 02, 2011
at 07:53 PM

Reread the question (twice if you need to). The question was not about "optimal" that's your own preference/dogma you've attached to it. One of the frustrations I have with the Paleo community is the humorless zealots that it attracts...

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on December 04, 2010
at 09:37 PM

"Tolerated is not optimal, why is that so difficult to understand"

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on September 26, 2010
at 05:08 AM

I'm not sure about vodka, but kava-kava seems paleo friendly, and a great way to chillax.

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on September 26, 2010
at 03:36 AM

Well... overall, I suspect you are probably right. But I bet there were some situations where paleolithic humans did take mind altering substances just for fun. But if they overdid it, then that DNA would be less likely to survive long term..

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on September 26, 2010
at 01:01 AM

Alcohol isn't paleo. But the filtration o vodka makes it only bad from an alcohol sense and not a gluten sense.

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525ceb06bc8862932d853a033411e3b7

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on December 04, 2010
at 06:45 PM

Paleo shouldn't be about historical accuracy (did cavemen eat this? - don't care), but about eliminating problematic foods in your diet. If alcohol is or becomes a problem, then eliminate it. If, on the other hand, you tolerate it and it doesn't become an issue, have a drink now and then.

9f8111d9ecaa64ea098a0860b47300e0

on December 04, 2010
at 09:37 PM

"Tolerated is not optimal, why is that so difficult to understand"

525ceb06bc8862932d853a033411e3b7

(350)

on January 02, 2011
at 07:53 PM

Reread the question (twice if you need to). The question was not about "optimal" that's your own preference/dogma you've attached to it. One of the frustrations I have with the Paleo community is the humorless zealots that it attracts...

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on September 26, 2010
at 11:30 AM

Once something is distilled, the proteins are completely gone. Vodka, gin and whiskey all start from glutinous grains but are still safe for celiacs.

Whether it's made from potatoes or grains, it's still vodka in the end.

Obviously, cavemen didn't make distilled spirits, so I don't think there's really any way to claim they are Paleo. Since that's the case, I try to stick with the spirit of the thing and buy the best quality spirits, handcrafted where possible.

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on September 26, 2010
at 03:50 AM

When hunter-gatherer tribes get a hold of distilled spirits, it absolutely destroys their lives. I think distilled spirits are a great example of neolithic hyperpalatibility. Alcohol occurs in nature and plenty of wild animals have been seen imbibing on fermented fruit, but distilled spirits represent alcohol at a level not seen in nature.

However, there are known neolithic genetic adaptations to alcohol. If you are able to drink vodka, it's certainly a better choice than beer. I'm one of the unlucky ones with bad genes- many of the men in my family are alcoholics and I have had some terrible experiences with vodka.

My favorite alcohol is a type that IS made by several "primitive" tribes: chicha. It's often made with maize, but the most "paleo" types are made with roots or fruit. It's about 1-3% alcohol. You feel good drinking it, but it doesn't get you drunk quick/make you pass out/make you hungover the way vodka is liable to. I have personally made chicha and it's very very easy- even a caveman could do it: mash fruit/roots, put in a vessel, wait. Many tribes use spit as a fermenting agent...and even urine...

Tequila is also popular with paleos, but it's another one that makes me drunk too quick.

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on February 26, 2012
at 06:55 PM

I wonder if that works with kefir . Pee kefir ... yuck

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on September 26, 2010
at 12:53 AM

you can't make vodka just like that. You have to have a full distillation system, and it's not easy to make. Now fruit wines is a different thing - easy to make, fermentation comes by itself and was probably noticed, and it might be that some kind of fruit wine was around since very early on.

but really? the idea of getting weak, possibly aggressive, lacking control of your own movements and senses... not very healthy, safe or optimal. The only times using perception-altering substances was accepted or useful if that brought spiritual dimension into their lives. That's why hallucinogen plants were of more interest, they provided contact with spirits and was used for particular reason, not for "fun".

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on September 26, 2010
at 03:36 AM

Well... overall, I suspect you are probably right. But I bet there were some situations where paleolithic humans did take mind altering substances just for fun. But if they overdid it, then that DNA would be less likely to survive long term..

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on September 26, 2010
at 03:40 AM

The question is if it is paleo friendly. I'd say yeah, basically, as long as done in moderation. Most paleos allow occasional alcohol and occasional potatoes as long as your blood sugar control is good. I'd say paleos that look a lot at scientific studies and tend more towards the 'biologic equivalent' type of paleo eating would not object much, but those who favor more towards eating the exact food items of that time would shy more away from it.

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