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Chronic Cardio Before Drinking?

Commented on May 30, 2014
Created May 28, 2014 at 6:41 PM

I know Chronic Cardio and Drinking both are not Paleo, but sometimes I like to have a little (or a lot) of fun, I usually lift heavy 3-4x/week, lots of walking, some sprinting. This Saturday I will be going out on a boat and will probably be drinking a lot of alcohol...thinking of doing a long run (10+ miles) before to "counteract" the booze.

So my question: Is a long cardio session the most effective exercise to counteract the weight gain/caloric intake of drinking? Since most of my calories will be empty, I figure a heavy lifting session won't be very beneficial. And while I know sprinting is great to burn fat, I feel that a long run will create a larger calorie deficit.

Sorry if this isn't totally Paleo, but I trust the answers from this site more than others.

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on May 30, 2014
at 12:03 PM

I also remember hearing something about some Spanish people drinking a shot of olive oil before a drinking session for some reason that escapes me now, it was either to get less drunk, outweigh the toxicity, or to prevent hangover

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on May 30, 2014
at 10:17 AM

Forgot about the egg yolks. Once the alcohol's in the bloodstream it needs to be cleared and the running will do it - assisted by other bloodstream nutrients, which need to be piled in to dilute it. Alcohol is only rocket fuel in a real rocket.

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on May 29, 2014
at 05:38 PM

Greasy carbs after the bar closes is pretty good Rx.

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on May 29, 2014
at 04:54 PM

Hey Coco, I see this is your first post here on PH; Welcome to PaleoHacks! Your answer is a very sound answer, as such, I hope to see more answers by you here in the future! +1.

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on May 29, 2014
at 03:35 PM

Ya good call...I'll probably try to exercise it off on Sunday then get a good 20 hr fast Monday (usually I fast Mon/Fri so it's perfect).

86c97b2779feab3c330f5e1c5fea7e25

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on May 29, 2014
at 03:34 PM

Good call...fried rice it is! I'm thinking maybe fasted sprints on Sat then a run + gym on Sunday. Everybody wins (but mainly me)

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on May 28, 2014
at 07:03 PM

Ya basically...let me edit to reflect. Thanks!

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on May 28, 2014
at 07:01 PM

by counteract -- you mean caloric'ly?

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on May 30, 2014
at 09:55 AM

If anything, you might want to do the running after the drinking as this will help detox out the alcohol, though it will probably be stressful to do running and drinking regardless of order. (When we move, this causes our lymph to circulate, allowing for faster detox, plus the faster heart rate will help get the metabolic processes going.)

I'd also suggest consuming some activated charcoal pills with the alcohol, these will help absorb some of the toxins. Also take some B vitamins, and either C or some lime juice maybe half an hour before drinking. (Or you could ask the bar keep for some limes and eat them as you drink.) You might also want to eat some sulfur containing veggies such as onions, scallions, or garlic around lunch time. B, C, and sufur are used in the liver's stage 1 and stage 2 detox, so it helps to consume these before drinking and the next day too. If you bring your own lunch, you could easily bring a bunch of egg yolks, some liver pate, some scallions (if odor is an issue.)

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on May 30, 2014
at 10:17 AM

Forgot about the egg yolks. Once the alcohol's in the bloodstream it needs to be cleared and the running will do it - assisted by other bloodstream nutrients, which need to be piled in to dilute it. Alcohol is only rocket fuel in a real rocket.

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on May 29, 2014
at 04:48 PM

Participating in exercise with the main purpose of counteracting calories (regardless of the source) is a form of purging. The real question is, do you want to run because you enjoy it and find it beneficial, or are you doing it as a preventative measure for an anticipated excess of calories?

Chronic cardio increases your appetite in such a way that you will likely consume more calories than you burn during the run.

So take a deep breath, have a drink, and enjoy yourself for one night. Consider spending the afternoon doing something that you want to do. Keeping low cortisol (stress hormone) levels is one of the best ways to maintain a healthy weight. Best wishes.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on May 29, 2014
at 04:54 PM

Hey Coco, I see this is your first post here on PH; Welcome to PaleoHacks! Your answer is a very sound answer, as such, I hope to see more answers by you here in the future! +1.

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on May 29, 2014
at 04:22 PM

I don't like hard exercise before drinking as the drink hits me too hard too fast, i'd just make sure the next day or within the next couple days to fast and/or do some exercise, get a good sweat on, if you have a stinking hangover/dehydration I wouldn't go too hard too soon though.

Personally i tend to have some carbs right after the drinking as they taste great and soak it all up, lots of water before bed and a lazy day the next day to recover & not stress myself anymore, maybe a walk to get some fresh air. Then a good fast the day after that.

De1095b2ba29c1035f00428cbfe3cc7c

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on May 30, 2014
at 12:03 PM

I also remember hearing something about some Spanish people drinking a shot of olive oil before a drinking session for some reason that escapes me now, it was either to get less drunk, outweigh the toxicity, or to prevent hangover

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on May 29, 2014
at 03:57 PM

If you enjoy that much running, assuming you don't over exert your body, it is a metabolically healthy thing to do. If you believe Robert Lustig then alcohol is metabolically damaging. So to a degree the answer to your question is yes.

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on May 29, 2014
at 01:33 PM

I think a single instance of calorie overload will go unnoticed if you are generally healthy and fit. My guess is that if you do the same thing you would normally do -- you won't gain an ounce.

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on May 29, 2014
at 12:51 PM

Drink, recover (assuming you're good and hungover!), then fast. A single 24 hour fast may do it. Sure, go for a run too. Heck, my recovery involves quite a bit of fat and carbs (not a lot of protein), my glycogen is well topped off after a drinking day.

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on May 29, 2014
at 05:38 PM

Greasy carbs after the bar closes is pretty good Rx.

86c97b2779feab3c330f5e1c5fea7e25

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on May 29, 2014
at 03:35 PM

Ya good call...I'll probably try to exercise it off on Sunday then get a good 20 hr fast Monday (usually I fast Mon/Fri so it's perfect).

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on May 29, 2014
at 11:33 AM

The run will mine out your glycogen, and the alcohol won't replenish it. Should be a good drunk though.

I think you'd be better off with a run the day after. Load up on some carbs after drinking. Chow mein's not paleo, but maybe some fried rice.

86c97b2779feab3c330f5e1c5fea7e25

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on May 29, 2014
at 03:34 PM

Good call...fried rice it is! I'm thinking maybe fasted sprints on Sat then a run + gym on Sunday. Everybody wins (but mainly me)

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