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A week in Jamaica with a personal chef three meals a day and unlimited alcohol...So how much damage did I do to myself?? Any recovery tactics/advice?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 28, 2010 at 8:07 PM

Honeymoon, Jamaica, personal chef. So how bad did I injure my gut? If one follows Paleo in most every area (no veg oils, no sugar, no grains in any form, healthy fats, veggies, no fruit, no nuts, pastured dairy, lots of venison, occasional chicken, lots of free range eggs, occasional grain fed beef, wine or bourbon twice a month) and then once a year takes advantage of fine local Caribbean cuisine, how badly is my gut/liver/pancreas etc damaged and should I have done any special fasting to recover?

BTW, this was not processed food either, so I guess if you are going to splurge it is somewhat better than a fast food binge. It was all cooked daily from local produce and animals: free range chicken and eggs, grass fed beef, daily caught fish, mangos, papaya, pineapple, watermelon, vegetables, peppers etc. My concern is the daily daiquiris, homemade banana bread, orange juice, alcohol (red stripe beer and rum with OJ) and nightly homemade desserts. Three meals a day, appetizer before dinner and unlimited alcohol, so basically it was a constant calorie intake while awake (except during excursions of swimming, kayaking or hiking etc).

Results from the vacation binge and the following week it took me to get back on the paleo wagon at home: gained 9 (count em, NINE) pounds, and cravings like you wouldnt believe. Prior to the trip I was eating one meal at noon and then a small snack at 7pm. I realized that I might be damaging myself when I started to feel slight twinges of mild pain in the general area of my gall bladder. (I am 5'4" 130 lbs 39 yo and weight train 2-3x per week, fairly good physical shape but could still stand to lose a little body fat left from my old way of eating)

Can a once a year "free for all" cause permanent damage if you eat properly the rest of the time?

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on June 30, 2010
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I am going to try that one meal a day regimen and see how it goes. I have already lost three pounds just by cutting out the alcohol, sugar and carbs again, but really need to get back to paleo this week. working on controlling the cravings and reminding myself of why paleo is a better way of life.

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on June 30, 2010
at 09:26 PM

@Patrik-just a slight twinge of pain under my right ribcage area about 30-45 minutes after a meal.

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on June 28, 2010
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thanks! I did not mean for my question to sound so much like a question about binging (I have read those posts) but more about a question of permanent damange. THanks for reading between the lines.

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had some gall bladder pain after a pregnancy 14 years ago, but no surgery then as a low carb diet seemed to help. mostly alway been on the LC bandwagon since then until I heard of paleo. i have been strict paleo for the last week and feel much better. And yes, we had a great time :)

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@texasleah What sort of pains did you feel? And when did you they start?

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499f188c87c6980742b9ba98caa6f563

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on June 29, 2010
at 03:45 AM

First of all, you should not feel bad at all. This was your honeymoon, for heaven's sake. How many of those do you plan to have?

Still, 9 pounds out of 130! A 7% weight gain.

My boss came to town for a week and we visited customers and ate out together (with much drinking) for 7 days. I gained 7 pounds (out of 172) so not as bad as you but I have much less excuse. I went back to my 'paleo-dairy' diet and lost it all again this week. Mostly I did it with 4 straight days of only eating a large fat-heavy breakfast -- doing a 24 hour fast 4 times in a week. Before I ate paleo, I was doing Brad Pilon's "Eat Stop Eat" which of course is just intermittent fasting, but it was harder to keep the weight off in between, and harder to fast. Now as a 'paleo' I do 4 days of IF in a row and I hardly notice that I'm not eating. Just hit a new personal low of 169 this morning.

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on June 30, 2010
at 09:29 PM

I am going to try that one meal a day regimen and see how it goes. I have already lost three pounds just by cutting out the alcohol, sugar and carbs again, but really need to get back to paleo this week. working on controlling the cravings and reminding myself of why paleo is a better way of life.

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on June 28, 2010
at 09:34 PM

OMG

I am so jealous. Private chef??! u gotta be JOKING haa

Hope you had lots of S*X!!!

Don't worry -- just get back on the bandwagon -- all damage is remedial IMHO in 2-4 wks.

Consider the value of a fast if you r healthy... (avoid fasting however under conditions of poor adrenal function).

Have you had gallbladder issues in the past? Bland diets are best until it calms down -- lower carb, no GLUTEN. More veggies. I've had people avoid gallbladder issues with a shot of lemon juice every day (plus or minus a shot of olive oil).

I have a 50-something friend who ended up in the ER after one indiscretion of ONE HOT DOG BUN after paleo x1yr (lost 30+ lbs)... Every member in her family had already had their gallbladders removed. She was the last one and so pleased she had avoided it thus far. Alas, alas it was taken out.

D67e7b481854b02110d5a5b21d6789b1

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on June 28, 2010
at 09:44 PM

had some gall bladder pain after a pregnancy 14 years ago, but no surgery then as a low carb diet seemed to help. mostly alway been on the LC bandwagon since then until I heard of paleo. i have been strict paleo for the last week and feel much better. And yes, we had a great time :)

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on June 28, 2010
at 08:20 PM

Quick answer, yes you can seriously damage yourself in a week... More than SAD, debatable

However, I'd say the best thing you can do right now is really strict healthy paleo eating... Our bodies are incredible healing machines and you can recover from almost anything that doesn't kill you

Most of us ate poorly for 20+ years, what's a week?

Heavy inflammation periods of diet can and will leave Internal scars IMO, and regularly damaging yoursystem with heavy AGEs will add up

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on June 28, 2010
at 09:46 PM

thanks! I did not mean for my question to sound so much like a question about binging (I have read those posts) but more about a question of permanent damange. THanks for reading between the lines.

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on October 05, 2010
at 10:14 PM

I also gained something like that amount of weight on my honeymoon, well before being a Paleo convert. You can even see it in the pictures taken of me the evening after we few home vs. the wedding pictures! :)

That said, how often is there true cause for celebration? A honeymoon is the perfect time to live it up!! You and your husband will be daydreaming about what a great time you had for years to come...and yes, you might even muse a bit over the daquiris you downed. :)

Whether or not there's lasting damage (I'll wager "no lasting damage" if you're conquering your cravings with low carb paleo livin' for a while), what's done is done, you clearly had an awesome time, and now you can move on with healthier eating and happy memories.

Good luck getting back on the wagon!

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on October 05, 2010
at 04:03 PM

Maybe take some fish oil capsules for a couple of weeks.

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on October 05, 2010
at 02:28 PM

These are precisely the times when you should let go. Even paleo man ran into a honeycomb every couple of years. Fussing and feeling guilty will make you feel worse and could affect you worse than the food through raised cortisol levels. I reckon, just move forward and you will minimize any damage you have done. Maybe keep things on the low carb front for a while to lose some weight (I gain the same as you: QUICKLY, but don't worry, it's usually water weight).

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on July 06, 2010
at 03:16 AM

A lot, perhaps most, of the damage from alcohol occurs from its primary metabolite, which is acetaldehyde. Vitamin C can quench acetaldehyde. Since vit C has a short half life, take a tablet maybe every 3-4 hours when drinking.

It's just one week anyway.

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