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Who of the non-paleo-sphere would you like to see talking at the AHS12?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 08, 2011 at 7:30 PM

I don't know if the Ancestral Health Society members frequent paleohacks, but let's give 'em some nice suggestions.

I ask for some non-typical paleo names, because maybe they can help to open up this more then promising movement. There have been some PH questions about making paleo more mainstream, maybe some can help to achieve this.

(of course we all want Dr. K, Dr. Harris, and Art De Vany in 2012, no?)

My suggestions (in random order):

Robert Sapolsky on stress

Scarlett Johanson on minimalist shoes and barefooting (seen this?)

Randolf Nesse on evolutionary medicine principles (unfortunately George Williams died in 2010, he would have been superb) (see very informative home page)

The great Richard Dawkins, he can talk about whatever he likes, maybe about his upcoming book 'The Magic of Reality. How we know what's really true'.

And prof Dawkins can bring his friends Dan Dennett and Steven Pinker with him.

Talking of great popular science writers, let's not forget Jared Diamond. He can talk about the worst mistake in human history.

Stephan Boyden, who was talking about the impact of civilisation on human biology in 1969 already.

I also wouldn't mind Daniel Quinn, the novel writer famous for the Ishmael stories.

Definitely some anthropologists:

Melvin Konner (from the original paper and book with his late wife Marjorie Shostak and with Boyd Eaton)

Marlowe on the Hadza, the Marshall-Thomas family, ...

Let's see, who could I add?

Ah, Regine Sch??n, who I don't know except from this very, very good paper on natural parenting

While talking about children and education, let's not forget Peter Gray, who talks a lot about hunter gatherers, play and curiosity as a basis for learning.

Well, I guess I will leave some for you all to add.

Thanks, and maybe Aaron and Brent will be inspired by the list we put together?

[edit] I did not know about this very similar question, some good ones there too.

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Yes on Anthony Bourdain! I don't care what he talks about; I'd pay to hear him read the phone book. (Geez I'm old; WTH uses a phone book anymore?)

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on September 13, 2011
at 01:41 AM

I never read Blink, but from what I hear, it was his weakest book.

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on September 11, 2011
at 04:20 PM

LOL. T.Colin Campbell in a dunking booth. Snicker >:)

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on September 11, 2011
at 03:55 PM

I was very disappointed by Blink. It was incredibly repetitious, to the point that I felt as if I was reading a textbook for the mentally challenged. I thought, "Yeah I get it, for the hundredth time...jesus why am I reading this??"

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on September 11, 2011
at 03:52 PM

My guess is that no meta-analysis is possible. There are too few studies, with heterogeneous interventions, to get a summary estimate. Ornish is known to lump everything under the sun into his interventions.

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on September 11, 2011
at 03:36 PM

Keith, +1 for the debate suggestion! Now, there seems to have been no debate, except for now, on the internet.

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on September 11, 2011
at 01:39 PM

I agree 100%. I work for a platform that empowers docs and other allied health professionals to share clinically-oriented information with each other (www.quantimd.com in case any is curious) and we try and peg as much as we can on case studies. As yet we have very little in the way of nutrition content (typical, I know) but one of the reasons is we try and be relatively non-controversial. Controversy scares off the paying customers. But I would totally agitate for for case-study based KOL-led science content on our platform, so I would think the same would go over well at a conference.

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on September 10, 2011
at 07:08 PM

Oh no not naturalnews.com :(

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on September 10, 2011
at 04:39 PM

too bad he's a supplement-shilling quack

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on September 10, 2011
at 07:07 AM

Marie, I agree, being skeptical is an important part of the paleo world. But we could use some good advice.

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on September 10, 2011
at 07:06 AM

Amy, good suggestion, maybe the AHS will read it!

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at 07:05 AM

Ken, I totally agree with your suggestion! Being a physical therapist and coming to the paleo world from a more physical activity direction, Frank Booth would be very nice.

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on September 10, 2011
at 04:13 AM

I think I did not communicate well up there ^^^. I think Ramsay is the turdish one.

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on September 10, 2011
at 01:27 AM

Megan Fox is apparently a very recently reformed vegan, maybe she can talk about how she became emaciated eating that way (yes, she believes she got too thin eating vegan for a year, it's not just me saying that)

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on September 10, 2011
at 12:47 AM

I love anyone who has their own acronym ;) ... "Hey! NPH wouldn't do that, all right? Now let me see some I.D."

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on September 10, 2011
at 12:45 AM

Gordon Ramsey is a F*cking turd too, but I can't help but admire how he lays it down in Kitchen Nightmares. I'll have to check out "The F Word", thanks for the info Meredith!

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on September 10, 2011
at 12:04 AM

Are you volunteering? :))

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on September 09, 2011
at 11:42 PM

Good ones! Espesh NNT; love that guy.

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on September 09, 2011
at 08:49 PM

The mention of Steven Pinker makes me want to post this link to a quote of his, which seems singularly appropriate for PaleoHackers: http://thebeautifulbrain.com/2011/09/pinker-deftly-places-the-internet-where-it-belongs/

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on September 09, 2011
at 08:12 PM

Anthony Bourdain yes. Never thought of that. Even though he is a turd, Gordon Ramsey had a great season on the Brtish show THe F Word. One season he raised his own veal and sheep and each episode he takes the viewer to farms and even the abattoir. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcUQjWB88UA

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on September 09, 2011
at 04:44 PM

Meredith, thanks, and lets hope it works!

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on September 09, 2011
at 03:58 PM

And the VP of marketing at Yum! Brands.

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at 03:27 PM

I have never heard a Monsanto rep speak, so I was just guessing here. I also think maybe someone from the FDA and maybe a former food chemist (is that a thing?) You know, those people who engineer foods to be hyper palatable.

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at 03:03 PM

You might not know it, but that's exactly what a Monsanto rep talks about. I went to a lecture a few years ago from some science-y Monsanto rep, and he said that he won't feed his family anything organic from farms he doesn't know, because of the allowance of heavy metals in organic pesticides or something of that nature. What I'm trying to say is that having a Monsanto rep lecture would actually be a totally rad idea. It would be one of the only talks that isn't preaching to the choir.

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on September 09, 2011
at 02:24 PM

+1 on Steven Pinker!

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on September 09, 2011
at 02:11 PM

I like it! Bring on Dr. X!

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on September 09, 2011
at 06:13 AM

thanks bringing that question to my attention. I've been unactive on PH for a while, so I didn't know...

89e238284ccb95b439edcff9e123671e

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on September 09, 2011
at 06:10 AM

Let's call this person Dr. X

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on September 09, 2011
at 06:09 AM

McDougall! And he is quite a good speaker too.

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on September 09, 2011
at 05:21 AM

SAPOLSKY! He's a carwash! (i love him)

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at 05:14 AM

I think that when I go back to work I will become a Paleo travel agent, hooking up group trips around the world.

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on September 09, 2011
at 05:12 AM

SAPOLSKY!!!!! Someone please contact him! He must be there!

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on September 08, 2011
at 09:19 PM

Tony Bourdain for sure!

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on September 08, 2011
at 09:12 PM

Matthew you must email Jimmy Moore and see if he'll put that together. I'd go! lol.

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:32 PM

ah, yeah can't forget him :)

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at 08:32 PM

Matthew, you caught me! ;)

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:31 PM

Came in here to say Frank Marlowe...we need more anthropologists who've actually lived with HGs and can tell us about all of our assumptions that are completely wrong.

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:30 PM

I'd upvote, but I ran out for the day. Yes, I'd love to see him there. I understand why he doesn't take comments on his blog, but I have so many questions...

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:29 PM

OK, google says they are very fine!

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:27 PM

Blatant excuse to meet Scarlett Johanson.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:27 PM

A high carb Kitavan cruise next year anyone?

89e238284ccb95b439edcff9e123671e

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:26 PM

yes, Lieberman en Wrangham. Especially Wrangham, so he can explain why he is a vegeterian (or so I read somewhere). I'll have to google Speth and Holloway.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:26 PM

Nassim Taleb FTW!

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:25 PM

A high carb Kitavan cruise next year anyone?

89e238284ccb95b439edcff9e123671e

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:25 PM

Is it the beard???

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:24 PM

@Pieter - I think that I might not come back.

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:24 PM

Revenge of the Nerds 2: Paleo Geeks Invade Kitava!

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:23 PM

That's an idea! Maybe even better, AHS13: we all go living with indigenous people for a week. Then come back and never think of those details (indeed shitty) of diet and lifestyle. Unfortunately, it would be unethic for those indigenous people. Can you imagine being visited by a bunch of paleo nerds???

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at 08:22 PM

For example http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22kitavan%22 all arguments about macronutrient composition :)

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:20 PM

I have often thought that when Kitava gets online and the people there start googling or "Kitavan" they are going to be quite confused what everyone is arguing about.

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at 08:20 PM

Nassim Taleb! Wasn't he scheduled for this years edition? I like Gladwell too

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:18 PM

I have often thought that when Kitava gets online and the people there start googling "Kitava" or "Kitavan" they are going to be quite confused what everyone is arguing about. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kitavan

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at 08:14 PM

Haha, they would probably be very confused why everyone was so interested in what they have for dinner :)

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:01 PM

Meredith will be here to talk about Sapolsky when she's done doing the laundry.

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on September 08, 2011
at 07:53 PM

Definitely Jared diamond. I remember readin GGsteel and thinking boy this is going to be big with paleo WAP folks

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on September 08, 2011
at 07:33 PM

You had me at Robert Sapolsky. I've read all his stuff, watched his lectures... So amazing.

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:47 PM

Jamie Oliver (on the politics of industrially processed foods in schools), Anthony Bourdain, or perhaps Daphne Miller (on traditional diets in remote, barely civilized cultures), Richard Wrangham (on the role of cooking in human evolution), Greg Cochran (on the role of agriculture in human evolution), Mary Enig (on lipid biochemistry), David Kessler (on scientifically engineered food reward), and Megan Fox (on whatever she wants).

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on September 09, 2011
at 08:12 PM

Anthony Bourdain yes. Never thought of that. Even though he is a turd, Gordon Ramsey had a great season on the Brtish show THe F Word. One season he raised his own veal and sheep and each episode he takes the viewer to farms and even the abattoir. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcUQjWB88UA

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Yes on Anthony Bourdain! I don't care what he talks about; I'd pay to hear him read the phone book. (Geez I'm old; WTH uses a phone book anymore?)

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(19479)

on September 08, 2011
at 09:19 PM

Tony Bourdain for sure!

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on September 10, 2011
at 01:27 AM

Megan Fox is apparently a very recently reformed vegan, maybe she can talk about how she became emaciated eating that way (yes, she believes she got too thin eating vegan for a year, it's not just me saying that)

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on September 10, 2011
at 12:45 AM

Gordon Ramsey is a F*cking turd too, but I can't help but admire how he lays it down in Kitchen Nightmares. I'll have to check out "The F Word", thanks for the info Meredith!

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on September 10, 2011
at 04:13 AM

I think I did not communicate well up there ^^^. I think Ramsay is the turdish one.

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:12 PM

I enthusiastically second Jared Diamond (author of "Guns, Germs, & Steel") as a MUST. He is a pretty low-key professory type (probably because he IS a professor), so he might not be the best speaker per se, but his theories regarding the environmental and its impact on human society/development have everything to do with Paleo.

Tim Ferris (4-hour work week, 4-hour body) would be another big one for me. I consider his first book essential reading for entrepreneurs as it outlines a very "hunter gatherer" esque strategy for creating wealth. Work really hard and really efficiently for a few hours a week, chill the "f" out the rest of the time.

Nassim Nicholas Taleb ("Fooled by Randomness" & "The Black Swan: The impact of the highly improbable") for his exploration of universal power laws and their impact on our human experience.

Chris Anderson ("The Long Tail") for his perspective on the evolution of business models (Public Libraries->Google, Local video stores->Blockbuster video->Netflix, etc.)

Malcolm Gladwell ("Blink", "Tipping Point", "Outliers") because he has a way of talking about everyday assumptions, such as "genius" or "talent" and turning them on their head.

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:26 PM

Nassim Taleb FTW!

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:20 PM

Nassim Taleb! Wasn't he scheduled for this years edition? I like Gladwell too

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on September 10, 2011
at 12:47 AM

I love anyone who has their own acronym ;) ... "Hey! NPH wouldn't do that, all right? Now let me see some I.D."

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on September 09, 2011
at 11:42 PM

Good ones! Espesh NNT; love that guy.

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on September 11, 2011
at 03:55 PM

I was very disappointed by Blink. It was incredibly repetitious, to the point that I felt as if I was reading a textbook for the mentally challenged. I thought, "Yeah I get it, for the hundredth time...jesus why am I reading this??"

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on September 13, 2011
at 01:41 AM

I never read Blink, but from what I hear, it was his weakest book.

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21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:10 PM

I want to see a Kitavan speak at AHS 2012.

There's all these clever people talking about clever things, and then we go back and discuss these things ad nauseum. How about someone who eats a natural diet and doesn't give a shit about omega 6/3 balance? (for example, the honey badger)

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:22 PM

For example http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22kitavan%22 all arguments about macronutrient composition :)

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:18 PM

I have often thought that when Kitava gets online and the people there start googling "Kitava" or "Kitavan" they are going to be quite confused what everyone is arguing about. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kitavan

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at 08:23 PM

That's an idea! Maybe even better, AHS13: we all go living with indigenous people for a week. Then come back and never think of those details (indeed shitty) of diet and lifestyle. Unfortunately, it would be unethic for those indigenous people. Can you imagine being visited by a bunch of paleo nerds???

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:14 PM

Haha, they would probably be very confused why everyone was so interested in what they have for dinner :)

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:25 PM

A high carb Kitavan cruise next year anyone?

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:24 PM

Revenge of the Nerds 2: Paleo Geeks Invade Kitava!

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:20 PM

I have often thought that when Kitava gets online and the people there start googling or "Kitavan" they are going to be quite confused what everyone is arguing about.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:27 PM

A high carb Kitavan cruise next year anyone?

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:24 PM

@Pieter - I think that I might not come back.

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on September 08, 2011
at 09:12 PM

Matthew you must email Jimmy Moore and see if he'll put that together. I'd go! lol.

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on September 09, 2011
at 05:14 AM

I think that when I go back to work I will become a Paleo travel agent, hooking up group trips around the world.

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:27 PM

Just another one I forgot, but could be really interesting: John Hawks

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:32 PM

ah, yeah can't forget him :)

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:30 PM

I'd upvote, but I ran out for the day. Yes, I'd love to see him there. I understand why he doesn't take comments on his blog, but I have so many questions...

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at 02:27 PM

Here is my daily AHS12 manifesting session. (Please understand that in order for this to work I have to write this as if it is ABSOLUTELY GOING TO HAPPEN! That's how The Secret works, okay? Are you with me?)

It is NO secret that Dr. Ron Rosedale will be speaking at AHS12. I am not only very excited to hear him speak about longevity but also about his thoughts on how understanding cosmology will help us better understand the proper functioning of the human body. I really hope he talks about how the body is not an organism but a colony of trillions of cells, a beehive!

Next I'll be taking in the Robert Sapolsky talk. He's going to talk all about stress, what makes us human, junk DNA and mating. He is going to be soooooo smart and funny - I can't wait! (I want to put those sticky googly eyes on his beard and call him a stuffed animal!)

At first I thought that the choice to have Aaron Ralston speak was strange. But it makes sense really. So many people of the Paleo persuasion are trying to connect more with nature - this is great! But people need to be well prepared or they may meet with undesirable fates like Aaron - having a huge boulder crash down on your arm! Aaron will also talk about the primal desire to live and how that drove him to sever his own arm to save his life.

The final speaker on the agenda scares me a bit. I forget his/her name, but she's a Monsanto representative. I think his talk will be all about how GMO is GREAT for people and farms. I like to hear all sides of an argument, but I think this talk may actually erupt into something ugly. Maybe not though since she will not be speaking in person but rather from his private Leer Jet via skype which will be projected onto a big conference screen set up in Harvard Yard.

Excited yet? I am!

EDIT: Actually Rosedale says we are not a single organism. We are a collective of cells that, when in hormonal harmony, are working toward the greater good.

Also I think Kurt Vonnegut is going to be great, despite the fact that he is no longer in his right body. As he said "Human beings will be happier - not when they cure cancer or get to Mars or eliminate racial prejudice or flush Lake Erie but when they find ways to inhabit primitive communities again. That's my utopia. " That's also why a crazy ass group of us are renting a low reward houseboat with fully equipped kitchen. No restaurants for us. We are all about the family dinner.

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at 03:03 PM

You might not know it, but that's exactly what a Monsanto rep talks about. I went to a lecture a few years ago from some science-y Monsanto rep, and he said that he won't feed his family anything organic from farms he doesn't know, because of the allowance of heavy metals in organic pesticides or something of that nature. What I'm trying to say is that having a Monsanto rep lecture would actually be a totally rad idea. It would be one of the only talks that isn't preaching to the choir.

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on September 09, 2011
at 03:58 PM

And the VP of marketing at Yum! Brands.

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at 03:27 PM

I have never heard a Monsanto rep speak, so I was just guessing here. I also think maybe someone from the FDA and maybe a former food chemist (is that a thing?) You know, those people who engineer foods to be hyper palatable.

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on September 09, 2011
at 04:44 PM

Meredith, thanks, and lets hope it works!

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:08 PM

I'd love to see anthropologists John D. Speth, Ralph Holloway, Dan Lieberman, and Richard Wrangham there. Definitely Steven Pinker too...Wrangham, LIberman, and him have no excuse not to be there since they live in the area. I'd gladly give up any spot I'm offered for them.

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:29 PM

OK, google says they are very fine!

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:26 PM

yes, Lieberman en Wrangham. Especially Wrangham, so he can explain why he is a vegeterian (or so I read somewhere). I'll have to google Speth and Holloway.

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on September 09, 2011
at 02:24 PM

+1 on Steven Pinker!

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on September 09, 2011
at 08:49 PM

The mention of Steven Pinker makes me want to post this link to a quote of his, which seems singularly appropriate for PaleoHackers: http://thebeautifulbrain.com/2011/09/pinker-deftly-places-the-internet-where-it-belongs/

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:30 PM

I would like to see T.S. Wiley who wrote Lights Out: Sleep, Sugar & Survival.

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on September 12, 2011
at 07:15 PM

I would really like to have Joel Salatin - the polyculture farmer featured in The Omnivore's Dilemma. I care a lot about sustainability and how we can make nutritious calories available to as many people as possible while preserving limited resources. Joel's farm - Polyface Farms - fully integrates animals and grows a wide variety of crops. I would like to know more about how many people his farm could feed and the scalability of polyculture farming systems. We often assume that ethically-sourced meat and the Paleo Diet is simply not sustainable and we should just not worry about it. I disagree. I think Joel Salatin and other similar farmers/ranchers/butchers have an important perspective on the feasibility of this diet and can tell us how we can support them to get more of these products onto the market.

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on September 09, 2011
at 11:35 PM

I think it might be useful to hear from some of us 'in the trenches' - dietitians, coaches, and physicians that are actually working with the general population and athletes. It might be helpful for the science based experts to hear about the questions and cases we deal with everyday...

And we could bring in case studies or clients to talk too -for example I work with an Olympic hopeful athlete - hearing the struggles she or my IronMan athletes go through might be neat. Or some of the more complicated situations - whether it be health issues or hectic life situations - real people and the real world.

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on September 10, 2011
at 12:04 AM

Are you volunteering? :))

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on September 10, 2011
at 07:06 AM

Amy, good suggestion, maybe the AHS will read it!

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on September 11, 2011
at 01:39 PM

I agree 100%. I work for a platform that empowers docs and other allied health professionals to share clinically-oriented information with each other (www.quantimd.com in case any is curious) and we try and peg as much as we can on case studies. As yet we have very little in the way of nutrition content (typical, I know) but one of the reasons is we try and be relatively non-controversial. Controversy scares off the paying customers. But I would totally agitate for for case-study based KOL-led science content on our platform, so I would think the same would go over well at a conference.

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on September 08, 2011
at 09:35 PM

Christopher McDougall, author of Born to Run. While his book has been read by many in the Paleo circles, it'd just be really interesting to hear about his time with the Tarahumara and minimalist running in general.

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on September 09, 2011
at 06:09 AM

McDougall! And he is quite a good speaker too.

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on September 08, 2011
at 09:23 PM

http://paleohacks.com/questions/57794/who-would-you-pay-to-hear-at-ahs-2012#axzz1XOkZucVR

Who would you pay to hear at AHS 2012?

There were quite a few "outside" options here.

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on September 09, 2011
at 06:13 AM

thanks bringing that question to my attention. I've been unactive on PH for a while, so I didn't know...

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on September 10, 2011
at 01:39 AM

It's regrettable that Frank Booth isn't better known in Paleo since he's one of the original figures of evolutionary medicine. Dr Booth's with the University of Missouri medical school, his list of publications filling 21 single spaced pages!

Why Frank Booth? First, Paleo has yet to incorporate exercise physiology, hence the prevalence of commerical theories of exercise dramatically lacking in orientation within the science of evolutionary medicine. While both HIT and CrossFit have gained popularity, from evolutionary exercise physiology, both are very incomplete.

One of Booth's major points is that without exercise activity, singles resulting in genetic sequencing produce unhealthy proteins. Add Paleo to exercise and that singling produces healthy proteins.

Another important point is that much of what we're told about metabolism and exercise in Paleo is not based on exercise physiology - exercise physiology applied in evolutionary context supports genomic expression through robust fitness. So far, one of the major books about fitness in Paleo circles is the Paleo equivalent to The China Study it's so bad.

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on September 10, 2011
at 07:05 AM

Ken, I totally agree with your suggestion! Being a physical therapist and coming to the paleo world from a more physical activity direction, Frank Booth would be very nice.

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on September 10, 2011
at 12:24 AM

Lyle McDonald, Alan Aragon, Martin Berkhan, Anthony Colpo, CarbSane, Matt Stone, James Krieger.

I think they all have something unique and helpful to offer to this community.

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on September 09, 2011
at 09:19 PM

David H. Freedman, the author of "Wrong: Why experts* keep failing us--and how to know when not to trust them *Scientists, finance wizards, doctors, relationship gurus, celebrity CEOs, ... consultants, health officials and more"

Here's a little taste from his blog: Making Sense of Medicine and Obesity

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on September 10, 2011
at 07:07 AM

Marie, I agree, being skeptical is an important part of the paleo world. But we could use some good advice.

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on September 08, 2011
at 09:04 PM

Since we as a community dismiss fat vs. carb studies that use seed oils and processed grains, I'd like to see someone who has done a Paleo diet study (or can help cause one to happen) using 4 diet groups none of which eat dairy, grains, legumes, processed sugars or seed oils: 1) SAD control 2) high carb low fat (with animal fats, ) 3) low carb high protein/high fat from animal fats and 4) meat/animal fats and high fruit/veggies but low starch. I exclude dairy only because it would require several more groups to include it without polluting the data.

Before and after measurements: body fat %, blood pressure, cholesterol, etc. and psychological survey re: emotional well being and cravings. I don't ask for much!

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on September 09, 2011
at 02:11 PM

I like it! Bring on Dr. X!

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(10299)

on September 09, 2011
at 06:10 AM

Let's call this person Dr. X

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on September 11, 2011
at 04:20 PM

Dr. Michel Odent and Dr. Sarah Buckley, both proponents of unhindered birth.

These two folks will explain why our highly medicalised birth culture is not optimal for our birth physiology.

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on September 11, 2011
at 03:33 PM

I would enjoy an informed, issue-oriented, non-acrimonious debate (or at least a well moderated back-and-forth) between (anti-fat, pro-carbs) Dean Ornish and, say, Dr. Rosedale, or Loren Cordain, or Robb Wolf. I realize that's a pipe dream; Ornish would never agree to it. Barring such a forum, I would very much like to hear a presentation from an informed interpreter of experimental science experiments, analyzing the research protocols of Ornish and the research protocols of pro-paleo studies. Because Ornish gets good results with his diet/lifestyle, as do those who follow Wolf's 30-day Challenge. What both have in common of course is opposition to simple carbs and processed foods. Both also are pro-exercise. But both diets are fundamentally different on fat/carb ratios, yet both diets produce subjects with comparably impressive blood work and other health variables. (I myself am getting fantastic results on a paleo diet and exercise plan; neither my body nor mind longs for grain at this point.) A really smart interpreter would burrow down into the particulars of both regimens, and of Ornish's clinical trials and those that have been conducted on the paleo lifestyle, and we would hopefully come away with an understanding of whether, in fact, the two approaches are comparable in methodological terms. In short: what sort of meta analysis is possible?

Another interesting presentation would be to put T. Colin Campbell (The China Study) in a carnival dunking booth. Seriously, it would be fun to have a historian of science give a humorous yet pointed overview of examples of propaganda posed as science (China Study) and examples of good intentions combined with lousy methodology, leading to decades of noxious societal ramifications (Ancel Keys).

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on September 11, 2011
at 03:52 PM

My guess is that no meta-analysis is possible. There are too few studies, with heterogeneous interventions, to get a summary estimate. Ornish is known to lump everything under the sun into his interventions.

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on September 11, 2011
at 04:20 PM

LOL. T.Colin Campbell in a dunking booth. Snicker >:)

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on September 11, 2011
at 03:36 PM

Keith, +1 for the debate suggestion! Now, there seems to have been no debate, except for now, on the internet.

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on September 10, 2011
at 07:04 PM

Me :-)

Of course a narcissist would say that! (Please be kind, this is an attempt at self-deprecating humor gang)

< / self serving >

As somewhat of an inside outsider*, I think AHS12 would be better served sticking with speakers discussing that broader umbrella embodied by the title "ancestral health".

Paleo, primal, WAPF -- evolutionary and/or traditional culture inspired approaches to nutrition and health. The pros and possible cons of such and arguments for and against certain foods and nutrients. Having speakers such as Dr. Eades -- whose last book encouraged detoxifying the liver with two weeks of abstinence from alcohol and caffeine while chugging artificially sweetened whey shakes with a dose of DAG oil for good measure -- does not reflect well on "the movement". Yes, I'm no fan, but the purpose of having Naughton speak totally escapes me. Please ... no Fred Hahn next year! (Although I'd like to at least attend as I live only a few hours away and close to Fred so perhaps Melissa, myself and Fred could car pool. LOL that would be fun!).

*inside outsider: I would not describe my WOE as pure paleo, primal or ancestral. However I would say I'm about 95+% PHD (and where I deviate on plan it is more in the protein/fat ratio) but I certainly see acquiescing to "reality" here at PH (dairy, cheats), over on MDA, etc. Thus although folks seem to think otherwise, I'm a big fan of real whole foods and minimizing processed junk.

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on September 10, 2011
at 12:16 AM

Sapolsky and Gladwell

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on September 09, 2011
at 11:34 PM

Lierre Keith The Vegetarian Myth

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on September 09, 2011
at 03:16 PM

Danny Vendramini author of "them and us"

I'd love to see him discuss his "Teem" theory, updated information on Neanderthal predation since his paternal interbreeding theory has proven correct, etc

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on September 12, 2011
at 03:15 PM

I would like to see Jon Gabriel from The Gabriel Method. He's a little bit commercial but I would be interested to see what he would offer--especially on his emotional weight commentary and stress as it relates to paleo.

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on September 12, 2011
at 07:36 AM

Richard Louv, David Sobel, Peter Kahn and Stephen Kellert on the importance of nature experiences for our children.

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on September 08, 2011
at 08:30 PM

Last one, I promise: Desmond Morris!

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on September 10, 2011
at 04:35 PM

Dr. Russell Blaylock - He is on top of his stuff! Links below http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W-gba0GPwU http://www.naturalnews.com/020550.html http://www.blaylockreport.com/

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on September 10, 2011
at 04:39 PM

too bad he's a supplement-shilling quack

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(19245)

on September 10, 2011
at 07:08 PM

Oh no not naturalnews.com :(

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