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Why Does Everyone Always Say "Consult Your Doctor" When Informing People?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created December 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM

I have to say, it's driving me crazy listening to lectures, podcasts and shows, and reading books and articles about varying topics related to health. Almost ALWAYS, the message contains some aspect discussing how screwed up the western medicine practices are and how most doctors are completely naive to how things really work. However, later in the same message, you always hear the "caveat" given about how before trying any of this stuff, you should "consult your doctor."

What?

The bottom line is most people do not have a Paleo physician or even a Naturopathic practitioner they can see. Most people are on their own. That is what drives the popularity of many of these alternate forms of media in the first place. The reason for this, again, is the messed up western medical system that usually forces people to seek this treatment without any financial assistance.

Why is everyone so scared of discussing anything without throwing in the whole "I am not a doctor, this is not medical advice, consult your physician before doing this" message into EVERYTHING?

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

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on January 01, 2013
at 12:48 AM

i never said anything about its effectiveness

5457372e78a910c00cd1dd579ecbdce3

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on December 31, 2012
at 04:51 AM

Ahh I see. Nihilism is valid but rather off topic to whether the medical industry is effective. That being said, as a child of the 90s, a little nihilism is welcome now and then. Funny enough it brings back memories of a time before becoming a father that I felt much the same way. Keep fighting the power Nada, and I will raise a glass for you.

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

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on December 31, 2012
at 03:09 AM

nah, i dont. theres nothing terrible about infant deaths, disease, or injuries. and considering planet earth is becoming massively overpopulated and there is increasing uncertainty of where technology is headed, this unprecedented level of biological correction by humans is going to bite us all in the ass.

F0a9dea438e7943fa05da318773e785e

on December 30, 2012
at 11:21 PM

two words: liability insurance AKA malpractice insurance. Doctor's have it, we don't. Also, your doc knows your history (most likely if it's the same person you've seen for a bit), and is taught to look for more red flags than the average google surfer or forum flunkie. It's why they went to school for 8-12 years.

5457372e78a910c00cd1dd579ecbdce3

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on December 30, 2012
at 04:14 PM

Out of all of that that is what you glom to? Fine then there are also less deaths during childbirth, less death from diseases that used to lay waste to entire populations, better recovery rates from surgery and injury. If you were to combine that with the health and longevity of Paleo instead of making it an us or them scenario you would see something pretty special methinks.

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

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on December 30, 2012
at 10:18 AM

theres nothing special about life expectancy.

3089dd0b9a8f1d24f1b08d6cc3ca84e3

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on December 29, 2012
at 09:05 PM

Great comment and this is indeed coming from a Paleo Eater myself .

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on December 29, 2012
at 08:02 PM

Very soon they will be writing this on a bottle of soda pop. Have you noticed that all chocolate contains traces of gluten?

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on December 29, 2012
at 07:29 PM

I agree liability is #1, a side issue is YMMV.... Everyone is different, you need someone who knows you personally. My bigger problem is that so many people have doctors they don't trust!

68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

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on December 29, 2012
at 05:41 PM

I get that with people selling a product or service. It seems like everyone says it though. Where is the negligence in free speech? What's the difference between posting that stuff on this site versus discussing it on the average Podcast or blog radio? Does everyone post we make or response to an inquiry have to contain these "warnings?" It's ridiculous.

68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

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on December 29, 2012
at 05:41 PM

I get that with people selling a product or service. It seems like everyone says it though. Where is the negligence in free speech? What's the difference between posting that stuff on this site versus discussing it on the average Podcast or blog radio?

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 29, 2012
at 05:31 PM

One word: liability.

68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

(5795)

on December 29, 2012
at 05:41 PM

I get that with people selling a product or service. It seems like everyone says it though. Where is the negligence in free speech? What's the difference between posting that stuff on this site versus discussing it on the average Podcast or blog radio?

F0a9dea438e7943fa05da318773e785e

on December 30, 2012
at 11:21 PM

two words: liability insurance AKA malpractice insurance. Doctor's have it, we don't. Also, your doc knows your history (most likely if it's the same person you've seen for a bit), and is taught to look for more red flags than the average google surfer or forum flunkie. It's why they went to school for 8-12 years.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on December 29, 2012
at 07:29 PM

I agree liability is #1, a side issue is YMMV.... Everyone is different, you need someone who knows you personally. My bigger problem is that so many people have doctors they don't trust!

68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

(5795)

on December 29, 2012
at 05:41 PM

I get that with people selling a product or service. It seems like everyone says it though. Where is the negligence in free speech? What's the difference between posting that stuff on this site versus discussing it on the average Podcast or blog radio? Does everyone post we make or response to an inquiry have to contain these "warnings?" It's ridiculous.

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5457372e78a910c00cd1dd579ecbdce3

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on December 29, 2012
at 07:20 PM

The deal is there are things that Doctors know that we don't. Diet is not one of them but there is always the possibility that there is a non-diet related issue that they can help fix, and in some cases those issues can be terminal if not caught early.

Doctors are necessary and I would say anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. Without them our life expectancy would be nowhere near what it is.

Do you know the symptoms of any kind of cancer? Of a deadly STD? Would you just up your fat content if you feel "off" and hope the problem goes away?

We may not agree with their views on diet but they are not the enemy. They are there to help and remember they make more money if you live so their motivations are easy to determine. Yes the drug companies may also contribute to that but there is nothing saying you have to fill and take a prescription.

I say this as a Paleo of nearly 2 years that had to have major surgery for a potentially cancerous mass that was causing all of my muscles to shut down at random times, and blocking my airway. If not for the CT scan looking for problems in my lungs they would not have found the large mass between my heart and thyroid gland.

3089dd0b9a8f1d24f1b08d6cc3ca84e3

(363)

on December 29, 2012
at 09:05 PM

Great comment and this is indeed coming from a Paleo Eater myself .

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

(1021)

on December 30, 2012
at 10:18 AM

theres nothing special about life expectancy.

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

(1021)

on December 31, 2012
at 03:09 AM

nah, i dont. theres nothing terrible about infant deaths, disease, or injuries. and considering planet earth is becoming massively overpopulated and there is increasing uncertainty of where technology is headed, this unprecedented level of biological correction by humans is going to bite us all in the ass.

5457372e78a910c00cd1dd579ecbdce3

(1230)

on December 30, 2012
at 04:14 PM

Out of all of that that is what you glom to? Fine then there are also less deaths during childbirth, less death from diseases that used to lay waste to entire populations, better recovery rates from surgery and injury. If you were to combine that with the health and longevity of Paleo instead of making it an us or them scenario you would see something pretty special methinks.

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

(1021)

on January 01, 2013
at 12:48 AM

i never said anything about its effectiveness

5457372e78a910c00cd1dd579ecbdce3

(1230)

on December 31, 2012
at 04:51 AM

Ahh I see. Nihilism is valid but rather off topic to whether the medical industry is effective. That being said, as a child of the 90s, a little nihilism is welcome now and then. Funny enough it brings back memories of a time before becoming a father that I felt much the same way. Keep fighting the power Nada, and I will raise a glass for you.

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F12658db6c0bf63b1541a16ee6078a4f

on December 30, 2012
at 01:48 AM

Yep, it's CYA (cover your @$$). Heck, even my prenatal vitamins say "if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, consult your doctor before use".

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3fc95bca9e723edfbbb72b172798ab49

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on December 29, 2012
at 08:26 PM

I'm gonna add my tech analogy to the limited liability explanation.

I'm always doing things with my gadgets. I don't think I've had a warranty that I didn't void in under a week in nearly decade. As a result I've had friends ask me to do these things for them fairly regularly. Overclock their CPU/GPU, root their phones, install custom ROMs, etc. Now, I'm not against these sort of things. Obviously I encourage it. However, I always say that I will HELP. A LOT. I'll be right there to guide you through and answer any and all questions that I can. I, however, will not just DO it for you. The reason is that, in the end, it is still YOUR device. When I take on such a project I accept the responsibility that I may brick or melt something I paid for. It is mine and so are the consequences. When the hardware is not mine all I can do is give my best guidance, but in the end it is the person's responsibility what to do with their equipment.

Much like peoples' custom made computers, hardly any two human bodies are alike. My experiences and your needs may differ. Your doctor may be wise onto something that you failed to mention that can effect the advice given. I may be WRONG. Really, it's the proverbial YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary).

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on December 29, 2012
at 08:09 PM

Just to echo what everyone else has said the potential for liability is almost limitless.

The patient may have other issues going on that they forget to mention, don't think is important, or are completely unaware of that can influence the health advice being dispensed by the blogs.

Imagine someone hearing about the benefits of intermittent fasting despite the fact that they have an underlying 'insulinoma' (pancreatic cancer that causes excessive secretion insulin). They hear that intermittent fasting promotes autophagy, can help with weight loss, helps with skin, helps fight against cancer.. whatever.

They then go ahead and try it putting themselves at risk for a hypoglycemic coma!

There are so many diseases and processes out there that people can have, and each of these can be severely effected by the changes in diet and activity recommended by all the health blogs and podcasts, that it'd be irresponsible NOT to add the disclaimer.

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on December 29, 2012
at 07:52 PM

You can't hide behind free speech, which is a much more limited concept than people are led to believe, especially when there exists the possibility that what you are saying could cause another harm. This is highly relevant in regards to anything medical. For instance, if you told someone to stop taking a statin and then they had a heart attack, you may as well just settle out of court (presuming it's even tentatively established there's a casual link). I think in most cases people don't care whether you consult a doctor or not, it's just a disclaimer which does in legal fact protect them from liability. It would be, in most cases, an absolute defense to say, "I told him to consult a doctor before stopping his medication" (to use the above example). And of course there are other examples, such as the fact that under the federal rules of professional conduct for my profession, I have to disclaim that none of this is legal advice, which of course it isn't.

It's not that they're scared, it's that they're taking precautions, and rightfully so. It's my professional opinion that not giving the disclaimer you mentioned would be the highest degree of idiocy imaginable. Leaving it out just once could expose you to huge liability.

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Bbae431256192d2c57ba2a2122d12cd3

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on December 29, 2012
at 06:15 PM

I agree with you so much, I am sick of reading "consult your doctor". Anyway, i think people say that because they Take charge if something bad happen to you.

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