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Do you trust your doctor?

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Created April 04, 2012 at 12:57 PM

I've been having minor issues with my sinuses and ears for the past several months. Finally decided to see an ENT since my regular doctor just prescribed antibiotics and nasal sprays. I had a CT Scan done and still awaiting to hear results from the ENT. In the initial consultation I asked if these issues can be caused by acid reflux. He said no, but asked if I had heard of Prilosec and told me I should take one everyday. I just got done reading Chris Kesser's series on GERD the night before. Should I trust this doctor anymore?

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on April 05, 2012
at 03:00 AM

You wrap your head in a tensor bandage! How did you get this idea and why does it help, do you think?

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on April 05, 2012
at 01:27 AM

at least you have a doctor that will give you labs

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on April 04, 2012
at 09:28 PM

Although don't follow ND's blindly. I had two real wacko ones (bad luck!), you always have to think for yourself no matter what the title.

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on April 04, 2012
at 09:26 PM

Yeah, I do the same thing for my sinuses! I had surgery twice on them, but the shunts kept on just being shut off, so now I use the saline rinse every day and wrap my head in a tensor bandage when I feel a headache coming on (this really helps me for some reason). My sinuses were never fully developed and so always have problems draining.

0d3873eb2dd0447baf06139e75c10252

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on April 04, 2012
at 07:35 PM

I ended up finding out the origin of the problem was a sinus drainage malformation. My ent and primary care doc wanted to go in and try to repair it surgically, but I like my nose the shape it is thank you very much. Instead, I use a low pressure high volume saline rinse to keep it clear and free of debris and take Tumeric rhizome extract ( a brand called Curamin) and eat a clove of raw garlic in the morning. The headaches are gone. Sometimes I will feel like a headache is "threatening" to come on...but then it never does. I think the Curamin made the most noticeable and immediate difference.

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on April 04, 2012
at 04:16 PM

Jen, how did you solve your ENT/headache issues?

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on April 04, 2012
at 03:15 PM

What about with your wife's health?

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on April 04, 2012
at 02:16 PM

unfortunately my experience with doctors in the last 8 years, in a number of different countries has left me with the same conclusion,...treat the symptoms not the issue with no less than 5 different non necessary medicines, run test after test and come to no real conclusion other than the initial 'guess' never fitting all the pieces of the puzzle just satisfy to pick one!

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on April 04, 2012
at 01:48 PM

He's still my doctor for random things if necessary (fit/sick notes,..) and I've been to a way better doctor for a while, but he's also a symptom treater (instead of focusing on what causes them) who also prescribes a lot of food this community would get the hibbie jibbies from. It's pretty hard to find a really good one around here.

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on April 04, 2012
at 01:48 PM

Well said, I'm definitely not disregarding his advice, but I won't follow it blindly!

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on April 04, 2012
at 01:44 PM

I'm pretty paleo, but unfortunately going paleo won't solve every problem immediately. Still trying to fix my weakened gut and low stomach acid.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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on April 04, 2012
at 01:39 PM

Why haven't you changed doctors by now? I left mine for another (more competent) one, it was the best decision I've ever made.

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0d3873eb2dd0447baf06139e75c10252

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on April 04, 2012
at 01:35 PM

One opinion that you disagree with is no reason to write your doctor off completely. If you have strong opinions on certain therapeutic and lifestyle choices, it's going to be very tough to find a doctor who agrees with you on certain things.

Instead, treat a doctor's advice like what it is-advice. It is additional information to help YOU make up your mind. For example, this doctor gave you the information that acid reflux will NOT solve your ENT problem. Therefore, you know that anything you do to solve the reflux- be in medication or diet adjustment or meditation or whatever- is not going to fix the ENT issue- that other methods and possible connections should be explored.

I had an ENT issue awhile back and was simultaneously trying to solve my horrible crushing headaches. It took a doctor to point out the fact that they could be related and explore the mechanism of that relation. We disagreed on the method to go about solving the issue, but that doesn't mean his advice was unhelpful or that he was a bad doctor. Modern medicine is simply one more tool in your box. You can choose to use it, or not, but throwing the tool away simply leaves you with fewer options than before and gets you no farther ahead.

It's funny how people assume that either their doctor is always right or always wrong. I understand that because they are advising you on such important matters, trust is a huge issue. Do your own research and discuss it with your doctor. His opinion is just that, an educated opinion that can help you chart your own course.

1ab7ccb9520dddd0777db88e74ca0bed

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on April 04, 2012
at 01:48 PM

Well said, I'm definitely not disregarding his advice, but I won't follow it blindly!

0d3873eb2dd0447baf06139e75c10252

(600)

on April 05, 2012
at 03:00 AM

You wrap your head in a tensor bandage! How did you get this idea and why does it help, do you think?

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on April 04, 2012
at 04:16 PM

Jen, how did you solve your ENT/headache issues?

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on April 04, 2012
at 09:26 PM

Yeah, I do the same thing for my sinuses! I had surgery twice on them, but the shunts kept on just being shut off, so now I use the saline rinse every day and wrap my head in a tensor bandage when I feel a headache coming on (this really helps me for some reason). My sinuses were never fully developed and so always have problems draining.

0d3873eb2dd0447baf06139e75c10252

(600)

on April 04, 2012
at 07:35 PM

I ended up finding out the origin of the problem was a sinus drainage malformation. My ent and primary care doc wanted to go in and try to repair it surgically, but I like my nose the shape it is thank you very much. Instead, I use a low pressure high volume saline rinse to keep it clear and free of debris and take Tumeric rhizome extract ( a brand called Curamin) and eat a clove of raw garlic in the morning. The headaches are gone. Sometimes I will feel like a headache is "threatening" to come on...but then it never does. I think the Curamin made the most noticeable and immediate difference.

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on April 04, 2012
at 01:46 PM

I trust my doctor for what he was trained to do. No more, no less. I'm certainly not going to trust my doctor on lifestyle or diet choices, when he's received just about zero training in that field. Having said that, the man cut into my body, did what he does, and relieved me of a condition I'd had for years. I'd say I trusted him 100% to allow him to perform surgery on me.

Don't hate doctors - hate the system! ;-)

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on April 04, 2012
at 01:39 PM

No! Use a good health food store with an ND. Naturopathic doctor. I had sinus infections that were cleared up with colloidal silver and olive leaf extract, viruses cleared up with elderberry syrup and vitamin C, and zinc, Chest infections cleared up the same as the sinuses, ear infections gone with using a formula that the health food stores have that contain garlic oil and mullein, etc- you smell a little like salad dressing, but it works fast. And I had constant acid reflux and problems that were cleared up with 2 things- #1- the ND said I had a small hiatial hernia-drink a full glass of water a couple of times/ day and bounce on your heels- it will pull the stomach back into place- weird but it works. #2- I actually was getting acid problems from having a LACK of acid in my stomach- took HCL tablets from the health food store for about 3 weeks. In around a month's time I had no more problems- also changed my diet too- I eat admittingly around 85% Paleo now- worked for me- never any acid problems since- hope some of this helps you too. :)

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on April 04, 2012
at 09:28 PM

Although don't follow ND's blindly. I had two real wacko ones (bad luck!), you always have to think for yourself no matter what the title.

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on April 04, 2012
at 08:54 PM

Nope; I just use doctors for labs.

Lowered my cholesterol by 178 points and she didn't ask me what I did differently. Wouldn't you at least be curious? All I got was "looks like we don't need to treat this."

45c9355413cc7ecfd2099c95d3d30e63

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on April 05, 2012
at 01:27 AM

at least you have a doctor that will give you labs

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956bcad1d462d433a4e1e22f6e3355d5

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on April 04, 2012
at 01:11 PM

Hell I don't. He started my roller coaster of body destruction by suggesting me to keep on training (cycling) while having Mononucleosis instead of resting and listening to my body + described me antibiotics.

Not to mention how he likes to treat almost every symptom with medication and has absolutely no clue how food can screw you up.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on April 04, 2012
at 01:39 PM

Why haven't you changed doctors by now? I left mine for another (more competent) one, it was the best decision I've ever made.

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

(8767)

on April 04, 2012
at 02:16 PM

unfortunately my experience with doctors in the last 8 years, in a number of different countries has left me with the same conclusion,...treat the symptoms not the issue with no less than 5 different non necessary medicines, run test after test and come to no real conclusion other than the initial 'guess' never fitting all the pieces of the puzzle just satisfy to pick one!

956bcad1d462d433a4e1e22f6e3355d5

(1191)

on April 04, 2012
at 01:48 PM

He's still my doctor for random things if necessary (fit/sick notes,..) and I've been to a way better doctor for a while, but he's also a symptom treater (instead of focusing on what causes them) who also prescribes a lot of food this community would get the hibbie jibbies from. It's pretty hard to find a really good one around here.

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on April 04, 2012
at 02:09 PM

With my health? Yes

With my wife? No

41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on April 04, 2012
at 03:15 PM

What about with your wife's health?

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on April 04, 2012
at 09:01 PM

Well, it wasn't really a doctor, but although my nutritionist was sweet (no pun intended) I didn't trust her.

She recommended:

  1. 3 meals and 3 snacks a day
  2. Drinking two Boosts if I missed a meal and 1 Boost if I missed a snack (have you SEEN the ingredients in that stuff?)
  3. Always eating half an hour within waking up
  4. A meal plan based on a wide range of exchanges where the range from lowest to highest was a difference of about 900 calories

She was okay with eating soy garbage and artificial sweeteners.

She basically typed in my info into a program and printed off a meal plan robotically.

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on April 04, 2012
at 08:24 PM

Yes, I do. I had high blood pressure, 160s/90s for no apparent reason, and he took plenty of time to look into my family history and my own health history, and prescribed a medication that wouldn't interfere with my exercise preferences. After I started eating primally, the BP went down, I went off the meds, and then it went back up a bit. He took at least 30 minutes with me last appt charting my HD risk factors (zero aside from the BP) and we agreed I'd stay off the meds, maintain my healthy lifestyle, and chart my BP regularly.

I think it's great when you find a doctor who works with you and doesn't just fill out a scrip and call "next!"

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on April 04, 2012
at 06:15 PM

I trust my doctor for some things, but I don't go to him for diet advice, and I do my own research on drugs he suggests before I'll consider them. He and I have an "understanding" -- He doesn't push me (too hard) to take his drugs, and I don't avoid coming in for my follow-ups so he can track the progress of my MS. HOWEVER, we have had our tug-of-wars over treatment decisions -- for example, one of the side effects of statins is muscular degeneration. I have multiple sclerosis, one side effect of which is muscle weakness. It is IMPERATIVE that if you are on statins and you have muscle weakness, you stop the medication -- but I asked him how I was supposed to KNOW whether it was a side effect of the DRUG or the MS... and how HE was supposed to know, since I already have so many plaques that they can't count new ones through the old ones. LOL So... I don't take statins, and I won't... and he and I 'discuss' it every time I go in... and I -still- won't take them. LOL

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on April 05, 2012
at 08:22 AM

I trust that my doctor will get me the blood tests I ask for. That's about all she's useful for - but I respect her for respecting my diligence.

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on April 04, 2012
at 05:34 PM

I have really lost confidence in them. They cannot seem to find answers to serious problems. Indeed, I think antibiotics are the only reason they have an illusion of competence. Antibiotics do, at least, kill bacteria. Go in there with an odd complaint, like nerve pain, extremely low blood pressure, whatever. I feel like I am in some perverted version of the boy who cried wolf, because, considering my luck, there will be that one time when they could have helped, but I won't go because of all the times they failed me.

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on April 04, 2012
at 02:43 PM

I've had terrible sinus issues since last year, but managed to solve them almost completely based on Ray Peat's advice : fruit, calcium and low PUFA all help tremendously.

My doctor gave me the same advice last year. I listened to him, took the antibiotics. I ended up with severe skin issues, and my sinus issues were worse than ever (so bad I couldn't even walk into the city because of the pollution and had to stay in bed most of the time). The key for me was reducing stress, both through diet (Ray Peat) and by doing what I like to do. Also using epsom salt and drinking orange juice with gelatin before bed helps.

If you want temporary relief, you can try breathing in a paper bag to increase CO2. If I want to know what it feels like to have zero sinus issues, I just do that. Works really well.

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on April 04, 2012
at 01:19 PM

Find a new doctor. Better yet, go Paleo and never have to see a doctor again.

1ab7ccb9520dddd0777db88e74ca0bed

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on April 04, 2012
at 01:44 PM

I'm pretty paleo, but unfortunately going paleo won't solve every problem immediately. Still trying to fix my weakened gut and low stomach acid.

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