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Chicken on your salad causes kidney and liver damage? So says the nutritionist on the news this morning....

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created April 01, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Do they just grab any 'guru' that has a new book or website out to come on TV and give nutritional advice or diet claims? It seems all too common these days to see a TV spot on some nutritionist or diet expert giving bad or confusing advice. I'm not talking non-paleo information but flat out bad advice.

Example - I was flipping through the stations this morning and saw a spot on fox news (and no this isn't a FN bashing post since I see it on all the stations). I didn't catch the name of the 'guru' but she had 2 points of advice.

1) Have smoothie for breakfast. She made no reference of what was in said smoothie beyond 'fruits and vegetables.' Protein? Healthy fats? Milk, juice, almond milk, soy milk based and why? How about it is potentially a giant fruit/sugar bomb if you don't include protein and healthy fats that could lead to energy swings or binges later in the day? Especially if you are already over weight and metabolically challenged? Obviously a smoothie is potentially a better option than your average Sausage McMuffin with 2 for $1 hash browns but she wasn't clear on that point at all if that was her intent or message.

2) This one I still can't believe. She said do not have grilled chicken on your salads and it is a myth that doing so is good for you. Wait what....? She said that too much protein is bad for your kidney's and liver. I don't think there has been a person in the history of mankind that had so much grilled chicken on their lunch salads that they ended up with kidney and liver problems. Perhaps she was a vegetarian but that is not how the story was spun nor did she mention the importance of vegetarian types of protein. If everyone in society started to have a grilled chicken salad for lunch every day compared to all the crap that is consumed we'd probably see macro improvements in our populations' health. I can't believe this story was told as some 'fact.'

No wonder so many folks are confused about nutrition regardless of what diet or life style they follow with stories like this out there. Made me think of several of my coworkers that are trying to diet and lose weight. A smoothie for breakfast and then a salad with no protein or fats at lunch? They'd be starving, unsatisfied, and not be able to control their urges that night.

EDIT: I hate you for making me go to Fox's site to find this. ;-) __@greymouser

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on April 02, 2013
at 03:25 PM

Maybe we need to have a public anti-paleo quackwatch website with all this stuff and rebuttals to them. Then we can all save time by simply looking them up there, or passing pointers to it.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on April 02, 2013
at 03:18 PM

Yeah, keep waiting and waiting. :-) Meanwhile I have two grassfed burgers and some bacon in my salad for lunch today, would you mind if I wait with you. :-D (80 years later, darn, why are we still alive when all the fools who avoided protein are dead? I can't imagine the reason...)

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on April 02, 2013
at 03:15 PM

Maybe if they're talking about the old CAFO chicken that was fed a form of arsenic, and routinely fed GMO soy and GMO corn, otherwise, that's a WTF moment, but the whole too much protein myth has been repeatedly debunked.

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

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on April 01, 2013
at 11:54 PM

maybe a liver cleansing smoothie would help?

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on April 01, 2013
at 06:41 PM

I'm actually just a pool of acid with an internet connection.

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on April 01, 2013
at 06:11 PM

People still buy into that pH broscience? They think you eat a steak and melt into a puddle of acid?

Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

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on April 01, 2013
at 03:29 PM

I'm not buying it, Erin. Good information is readily available. In fact, I'd say most people already know damn well that pizza, donuts, fried food and cake isn't good for them. Yet they eat it anyway. There are several effective paths out of SAD... juicing and vegan are among them. Changing isn't easy, but learning has never been easier than it is today.

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on April 01, 2013
at 03:11 PM

Wait, 2 for $1 hash browns? They charged me $1 per in my SAD days...I feel cheated

C2fefd191418f9a7bd691077ab9b527a

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on April 01, 2013
at 12:47 PM

It's totally ridiculous, I know :P I don't know how people can be igorant towards overweight people, if this is the advice they're getting in weight reduction....It's clearly not easy for them to lose weight with misinformation...Disgraceful.

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Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on April 01, 2013
at 04:51 PM

So, I watched the video clip (and added it into your question above, so other's could see it).

The speaker is Kimberly Snyder, and she has a new book called "The Beauty Detox Foods".

Things I liked about her talk:

  • Focussed on real foods being better than packaged
  • Called our yogurt for not always being healthy (0% fat, added sugar)
  • Called out protein bars

Things I didn't like:

  • She straw-manned a "big breakfast" v. her shake -- the shit she compared her shake to, I wouldn't touch - I'd rather have the bloody shake.
  • Protein is "acid forming in the body". Well, so is the grains she suggests replacing it with. /me facepalm

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 01, 2013
at 06:41 PM

I'm actually just a pool of acid with an internet connection.

Medium avatar

(39821)

on April 01, 2013
at 06:11 PM

People still buy into that pH broscience? They think you eat a steak and melt into a puddle of acid?

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F291857fa12a0291688ea994343156dc

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on April 01, 2013
at 08:31 PM

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GM???thank you so much for identifying the the anti-chicken salad ???guru???.

A while back, a number of my Paleo skeptical friends sent me link to a blog post titled ???The Ugly Truth About the Paleo Diet??? by the same Kimberly Snyder!

Again, as seems her custom, she created a strawman by misrepresenting Paleo and then proceeded to bash it. I submitted a comment which she chose not to publish. Over the next few hours the negative comments that she did allow to be published piled up. Then mysteriously??? the blog post vanished.

No comment, no explanation???.just GONE!

I found a cached copy via a Google search and saved it. But that was unnecessary, as one of her fanboys republished her post in its entirety on his site.

I had wanted to publish a link to her original blog post to share on PH but I couldn???t really fit it into a question. Here it as a part of an answer instead. :)

IMO , this woman (KS) is all flash & glitter???.no substance, data or science.

"Enjoy". **Warning...if didn't like today's clip...you're gonna hate the blog post.

http://marcshealthzone.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-ugly-truth-about-paleo-diet.html#!/2013/03/the-ugly-truth-about-paleo-diet.html

Rebuttal by Neely Quinn http://www.paleoplan.com/2013/03-14/my-rebuttal-to-kimberly-snyders-attack-on-paleo/

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on April 02, 2013
at 03:25 PM

Maybe we need to have a public anti-paleo quackwatch website with all this stuff and rebuttals to them. Then we can all save time by simply looking them up there, or passing pointers to it.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on April 01, 2013
at 06:40 PM

Oh darn, I put leftover chicken meat on a large salad last week. I'll just sit here and wait for organ failure to ensue ... not.

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

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on April 01, 2013
at 11:54 PM

maybe a liver cleansing smoothie would help?

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on April 02, 2013
at 03:18 PM

Yeah, keep waiting and waiting. :-) Meanwhile I have two grassfed burgers and some bacon in my salad for lunch today, would you mind if I wait with you. :-D (80 years later, darn, why are we still alive when all the fools who avoided protein are dead? I can't imagine the reason...)

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