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What's this condition that eating paleo has cured?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 23, 2012 at 6:28 AM

Problem: If I eat a piece of fruit by itself, within an hour I will feel weak with hunger. And in the next few days I will develop acne. I have tested this several times.

If I eat fruit with some protein and fat, I'm just fine. I've done lengthy, months long experiments that show if I balance my sugars with protein and fat I will remain totally acne free.

What's going on with me? Is there a name for this condition?

I've twice had my blood tested because I thought I was hypoglycemic, but I was told that I was "perfectly healthy."

Before I started eating paleo and figured out that I need to balance my meals, I would frequently feel weak and sick with excessive hunger, so obviously I wasn't "perfectly health"! I also had constant, never-ending acne - something just wasn't right.

I've found a solution to my problem, I just want to know what to call it.

I know you are not my doctor, but since two have failed to help me put a name to this condition, perhaps you can give it a shot...

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on September 24, 2012
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When you eat a lot of carbs and you're insulin resistant, your bood sugar continues to spike until your cells finally let insulin in, and then blood sugar drops preciptiously. Limit the carbs (starchy veggies and fruit) to minimize this effect. For fruit, choose SMALL servings of low glycemic fruits like berries and melon, eaten with a meal or snack of protein and fat. Limit the starchy veggies, avoid all sweeteners, don't fear healthy (saturated and mono-unsaturated) fats. This will stabilize your blood sugar.

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on September 23, 2012
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For more information about serotonin, you can read http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/serotonin-depression-aggression.shtml I think that article is spot-on. I've struggled with autism and sometimes aggressiveness in the past (thinking I was just a douchebag), but playing around with several hormones and chemicals drastically changed my mentality about mentality :). If I use the right things, I start singing, dancing and playing around all day :)

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on September 23, 2012
at 08:55 PM

Sorry...forgot to answer your question. I eat (and react negatively) to whatever local, seasonal fruits are at hand: banana, mango, guava, watermelon, papaya. I've also reacted negatively to rice, white potatoes, tree nuts, honey, and sweet potato eaten without protein and fat.

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on September 23, 2012
at 08:53 PM

High sugar content is kind of an inaccurate description. I have no issues with lactose whatsoever, but fructose causes problems for me. Also certain proteins are insulinogenic, so not necessarily.

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on September 23, 2012
at 08:39 PM

I find your comment about tryptophan utterly fascinating because I think it may unlock another health mystery... What's the role of tryptophan in depression? Another thing going paleo did for me was resolve a lot of mental health problems (anxiety, dsythymia, fatigue, bouts of psychosis). I've often wondered why. Does tryptophan's relationship with serotonin have anything to do with this? Can you hook me up to some literature because I'd like to explore this further!

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Can you elaborate on *"Paleo with limited carbs (especially fruit) is the best approach."*

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Gut & Physiology Syndrome or Fructose Malabsorption

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on September 23, 2012
at 11:15 AM

I think this is because of the high sugar content in a lot of fruit. I used to be able to eat an apple if I wasn't hungry and be hungry 20 minutes later for a whole meal! It must be an insulin surge that whisks everything off into the fat cells. The extra protein and fat will lower the GI of the fruit and minimise the insulin production.

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on September 23, 2012
at 08:53 PM

High sugar content is kind of an inaccurate description. I have no issues with lactose whatsoever, but fructose causes problems for me. Also certain proteins are insulinogenic, so not necessarily.

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on September 23, 2012
at 02:57 PM

Reactive hypoglycemia. A glucose tolerance test won't necessarily pick it up because you are making excess insulin in respose to fructose, not glucose. Doctors rarely bother to testing insulin levels.

Protein and fat slow the response down, but your body is telling you something.

It's a sign of insulin resistance that can ultimately lead to diabetes. Paleo with limited carbs (especially fruit) is the best approach. You're on the right track!

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/3/5/575

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on September 23, 2012
at 04:37 PM

Can you elaborate on *"Paleo with limited carbs (especially fruit) is the best approach."*

3491e51730101b18724dc57c86601173

(8395)

on September 24, 2012
at 04:39 PM

When you eat a lot of carbs and you're insulin resistant, your bood sugar continues to spike until your cells finally let insulin in, and then blood sugar drops preciptiously. Limit the carbs (starchy veggies and fruit) to minimize this effect. For fruit, choose SMALL servings of low glycemic fruits like berries and melon, eaten with a meal or snack of protein and fat. Limit the starchy veggies, avoid all sweeteners, don't fear healthy (saturated and mono-unsaturated) fats. This will stabilize your blood sugar.

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on September 23, 2012
at 04:32 PM

Several ideas come to mind :

  • The fact that it's a carbohydrate-only meal increases tryptophan in the blood (1), causing an increase in serotonin. If you react the same way when you eat only potatoes, or only white rice, or only (insert carb here), then this might be plausible.
  • The high water content of fruit causes sodium loss (maybe worsened by possible hypothyroidism), also increasing serotonin (2) and causing blood sugar regulation issues. Eating fruit with something salty (salted milk, salted broth, ...).

While technically the glycemic index could be the issue, this should not motivate you to eliminate sweet food from your diet, since carbs are as harmful or good for blood sugar regulation as any other macronutrient.

What kind of fruit did you try?

  1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan#Turkey_meat_and_drowsiness
  2. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7510737

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on September 23, 2012
at 09:10 PM

For more information about serotonin, you can read http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/serotonin-depression-aggression.shtml I think that article is spot-on. I've struggled with autism and sometimes aggressiveness in the past (thinking I was just a douchebag), but playing around with several hormones and chemicals drastically changed my mentality about mentality :). If I use the right things, I start singing, dancing and playing around all day :)

547f3b19669b70e05c1fe0e29d24a768

(5)

on September 23, 2012
at 08:39 PM

I find your comment about tryptophan utterly fascinating because I think it may unlock another health mystery... What's the role of tryptophan in depression? Another thing going paleo did for me was resolve a lot of mental health problems (anxiety, dsythymia, fatigue, bouts of psychosis). I've often wondered why. Does tryptophan's relationship with serotonin have anything to do with this? Can you hook me up to some literature because I'd like to explore this further!

547f3b19669b70e05c1fe0e29d24a768

(5)

on September 23, 2012
at 08:55 PM

Sorry...forgot to answer your question. I eat (and react negatively) to whatever local, seasonal fruits are at hand: banana, mango, guava, watermelon, papaya. I've also reacted negatively to rice, white potatoes, tree nuts, honey, and sweet potato eaten without protein and fat.

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on September 23, 2012
at 04:43 PM

It has cured fat phobia. And the ovulating women who crave cheese late at night are rejoicing on message boards and nitpicking studies and niche's that support this craving.

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