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Sleep & muscle twitches. Adrenals? Appreciate anyone hacking :)

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 13, 2013 at 7:28 AM

Hi everyone,

Been on paleo for many months and it is certainly working.

The only issues I really wish I could solve now are -

Waking at night 3.30 approx, usually with raised heart rate and edgy feeling.

I also get lots of muscle twitching in the calves in particular, but it can be anywhere like back, eyelid etc too. They usually go away as day progresses.

I take 600-800mg magnesium. A b complex and b6, 1standard multi vit, About half rda calcium citrate as I am lactose intolerant, some Celtic sea salt, also 1banana and 1 large avocado per day for potassium and nothing seems to help.

I think it is all adrenal related.

Would really appreciate any advice and tips

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on July 17, 2013
at 09:55 AM

I've suffered from terrible cramps recently and in the past including muscle spasms in my back. I think I've torn muscle tissue from forceful stretching of cramped muscles before. I know that one side of my spine has shorter muscles from tearing muscle tissue during a spasm and the subsequent scarring. I try to stay hydrated and watch my electrolytes these days.

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on July 17, 2013
at 03:53 AM

I have had issues with muscle cramping, and I get it bad every time I go to the southeast for rock climbing. I recommend drinking low sodium V8 or tomato juice. One 8 oz glass has about 4 times the potassium of a banana, and every time I start getting cramps, I down a couple glasses and it goes away.

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on July 16, 2013
at 07:19 AM

You could try Ashwagandha right before bed, it is an adaptogen, and works to regulate adrenal function. I find it is particularly good for circadian rhythm issues. Glycine has also been found to be useful for too early waking.

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on July 14, 2013
at 07:43 AM

If this is adrenals and my cortisol goes low in night causing adrenaline release what should I be doing to fix this?

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on July 14, 2013
at 07:42 AM

Thanks will look in to the book.

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34b560c8b9ce660d7839fb7e29d7be89

on July 17, 2013
at 08:58 AM

Your banana+avocado a day is only 1,397mg of potassium per day according to this, Whereas your RDA is 4,700mg per day according to this. You might be deficient in potassium, causing the cramps. Personally if I am fine with sodium, potassium and calcium then I back off on the magnesium or up the calcium depending on my activity level/perspiration. Also ATP depletion may be a cause for cramps, I've taken to supplementing creatine when I am working outdoors during the summers. During this time I often drink V8 juice and/or coconut water and use Celtic sea salt generously on my food in addition to supplementing calcium via Tums when I am on travel and in the field where my diet is not what I'd like it to be.

34b560c8b9ce660d7839fb7e29d7be89

on July 17, 2013
at 09:55 AM

I've suffered from terrible cramps recently and in the past including muscle spasms in my back. I think I've torn muscle tissue from forceful stretching of cramped muscles before. I know that one side of my spine has shorter muscles from tearing muscle tissue during a spasm and the subsequent scarring. I try to stay hydrated and watch my electrolytes these days.

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on July 17, 2013
at 05:42 AM

My cramping and twitching greatly diminished when I cut back on alcohol. I would drink 1-3 drinks most nights. I'm not sure why the alcohol caused it since I usually ate plenty of nutritious food and drank adequate water along with it.

I found my other twitching trigger was anxiety. If I were lying in bed and started to get the little twitches I realized my mind had started running. As soon as I re-focused my mind on sheep jumping over fences, the twitches would die down within a minute or two.

If those don't help, eat a little starch.

Good luck!

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on July 16, 2013
at 07:23 AM

This seems to be a common issue with some people when they get low enough carb. You could add some roots to the dinner menu, so your body doesn't want to get up and go hunting in the middle of the night.

What I would try next if some starch doesn't help, is adding more salt (to taste, plus a little), followed by taking glycine right before bed, and if that doesn't work taking Ashwagandha about 1/2 hour before bed.

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on July 13, 2013
at 08:12 AM

Def sounds like adrenal issues. I have the same problems. Since being on AI falling asleep has improved but I am still waking early, heart palpitations, anxiety issues and that dreaded tired but wired feeling. Dr Wilsons book Adrenal Fatigue in the 21st Century is an excellent read. U might need some cortisol to give your adrenals a rest. I changed my brand of magnesium and that sorted out my restless legs. A good hormone Dr will sort out your adrenal issues. Hope this helps

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on July 14, 2013
at 07:42 AM

Thanks will look in to the book.

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on July 16, 2013
at 07:07 PM

I had some of the same issues with calf cramps and muscle twitching and for me it was b/c I was too low carb. Upping my good carbs made the issues disappear within a couple days.

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on July 16, 2013
at 04:33 PM

It's hard to say exactly what's going on without some testing but it does sound like an issue with your adrenals. I would recommend this test: http://www.canaryclub.org/advanced-saliva-hormone-profile.html

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on July 16, 2013
at 10:47 AM

Eat something sweet and salty before bed.

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on July 16, 2013
at 06:50 AM

Anyone else have any suggestions?

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