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Adrenal fatigue and ketone diet - good or bad?

Answered on August 29, 2015
Created August 12, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Hi

I am a 35 year old female. I have been diagnosed with adrenal fatigue, too low T3, too low DHEA, too low cortisol especially in the morning and too low progesterone and have been eating paleo (with no dairies) for a long time and I am still not feeling good and my extreme tiredness and exhaustion makes me crave dry fruit and fat(nuts and coconot oil) and I always overeat and then everything gets worse because I feel sick to my stomach and my digestion completely stops and i am constipated and bloated for days. I am hyper-sensitiv to almost everything, foods, light, sounds ect. I have blodsugar-issues and have had it most of my life. I am an ex sugar junkie and haven't eaten sugar for 3 years now.

So recently I began eating ketone diet to see if that would help my cravings and overeating. I count my calories and I measure my blood ketones.

I am not in the clear yet regarding the overeating, but it is fat not carbs, but not every day.

The problem is, I have gained weight and I feel like someone filled me up with water all over my body :-( (which also has been a problem before I started ketone diet).

I need to loose fat, but nothing happens and according to my measuring, I am in ketosis. I don't feel that i have gotten more energy (yet..?) and i certainly don't feel that I am burning fat - maybe I am not yet or how long time in ketosis to do that? But my cravings are not massive now, though I am exhausted all the time.

I really want to get through this phase on the ketone diet and I am longing for the body to accept the diet and beginning to use fat as fuel.

My plan is to keep on going and no more overeating between meals. I will eat, as always, breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Does anyone know if adrenal fatigue and ketosis diet are good together? Any experience?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 14, 2013
at 12:16 PM

adrenal fatigue is not a adrenal gland issue.......Dr. Nippoldt is partially correct. It is however a brain issue tied to excessive firing of the PVN and too little firing of the pontomedullary reticular formation. http://www.jackkruse.com/brain-gut-16-adrenal-fatigue-rx/

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on August 13, 2013
at 07:41 PM

Check your insulin levels, you can be hypoglycemic.

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on August 13, 2013
at 10:51 AM

It's mostly from protein. We don't store free aminos for long periods of time, any excess gets converted to glucose and stored in fat cells if unused. We can convert the backbone of glycerol (which comes from fats) into glucose, but this is a very tiny amount. Eating good fat is beneficial, but if your adrenals are stressed, you need to produce more cortisol to signal gluconeogenesis, so you are putting further strain on your adrenals. It's just easier and simpler to consume a small amount of carbs 50g-100g/day and still remain ketogenic. Zero carbs in your case is a bad idea.

982727b4d8df3e57d3d9e8b406ff1182

on August 13, 2013
at 06:02 AM

I have been seeing a real doctor and have had several blood and saliva test done. For me AF is a condition and some believe it is a disease. What most important to me is to get much better, than I am now.

982727b4d8df3e57d3d9e8b406ff1182

on August 13, 2013
at 05:52 AM

I have the book and have read it several times. I have done all the things listed for a long time now and a lot of the recommended things in the book, I have done for years and long before I got AF. But still, I am not in the clear yet, but will continue to do all the things

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on August 13, 2013
at 01:14 AM

Science Based Medicine.org doesn't like anything outside the mainstream. Worthless mouthpiece for the medical-industrial complex.

982727b4d8df3e57d3d9e8b406ff1182

on August 12, 2013
at 11:48 AM

Thank you for your response. I had the perception, that gluconeogenesis could be optained by transformation of amino acids or fatty acids, to glucose. And by eating lots of fat, I thought I was ok and that it wouldn't put further strain on my adrenals? I thought and feel that my cravings are very bad for my adrenal fatigue, because it stresses my body, hormones and bloodsugar, when I crave. Therefore I started the ketone diet. Hope my sentences make sense (I am from Denmark).

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on August 12, 2013
at 10:28 AM

You're already under a lot of stress, going on a very low carb diet is not a good idea at this time. Wait until your adrenals are healed first, as this will add further stress.

Cortisol is the signal used to tell the liver to create glucose from protein via gluconeogenesis, if you're in adrenal fatigue, this is not a good situation to be in and will make things worse.

982727b4d8df3e57d3d9e8b406ff1182

on August 12, 2013
at 11:48 AM

Thank you for your response. I had the perception, that gluconeogenesis could be optained by transformation of amino acids or fatty acids, to glucose. And by eating lots of fat, I thought I was ok and that it wouldn't put further strain on my adrenals? I thought and feel that my cravings are very bad for my adrenal fatigue, because it stresses my body, hormones and bloodsugar, when I crave. Therefore I started the ketone diet. Hope my sentences make sense (I am from Denmark).

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on August 13, 2013
at 10:51 AM

It's mostly from protein. We don't store free aminos for long periods of time, any excess gets converted to glucose and stored in fat cells if unused. We can convert the backbone of glycerol (which comes from fats) into glucose, but this is a very tiny amount. Eating good fat is beneficial, but if your adrenals are stressed, you need to produce more cortisol to signal gluconeogenesis, so you are putting further strain on your adrenals. It's just easier and simpler to consume a small amount of carbs 50g-100g/day and still remain ketogenic. Zero carbs in your case is a bad idea.

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on August 13, 2013
at 01:05 AM

If you view your condition from the Adrenal Fatigue perspective and follow Dr. Wilson's advice (he's the guy that coined the term), you will almost certainly improve your fatigue and health.

From his 1998 book:

  • uncover food allergies and sensitivities
  • eliminate sugar / sweeteners / simple carbs / most fruits
  • increase salt intake to taste; drink salted water
  • eliminate caffeine
  • eliminate cow milk
  • eat only when relaxed; chew 30-100x per mouthful
  • get to sleep before 10:30 PM; get up before 9:00 AM
  • meditation / wear a half-smile / deep breathing
  • consume adaptogenic herbs
  • exercise in moderation

So addressing AF is a combination of a whole food diet, improving sleeping and lowering stress. Sound familiar?

Is adrenal fatigue a "real" disease? Maybe not. But I'd wager it's done more to help chronically fatigued individuals than conventional medicine.

982727b4d8df3e57d3d9e8b406ff1182

on August 13, 2013
at 05:52 AM

I have the book and have read it several times. I have done all the things listed for a long time now and a lot of the recommended things in the book, I have done for years and long before I got AF. But still, I am not in the clear yet, but will continue to do all the things

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on August 12, 2013
at 11:02 AM

I agree with Raydawg. I'd forget about ketosis at the moment and try to get well again. You could probably do with some good quality carbs (like sweet potato) at the moment.

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on August 12, 2013
at 09:40 PM

Dr. Todd B. Nippoldt, M.D. of the Mayo Clinic calls "adrenal fatigue" an unproven theory.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/adrenal-fatigue/AN01583

I hope you don't waste money on "remedies".

There is more at Science Based Medicine website: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/fatigued-by-a-fake-disease/

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 13, 2013
at 01:14 AM

Science Based Medicine.org doesn't like anything outside the mainstream. Worthless mouthpiece for the medical-industrial complex.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on August 14, 2013
at 12:16 PM

adrenal fatigue is not a adrenal gland issue.......Dr. Nippoldt is partially correct. It is however a brain issue tied to excessive firing of the PVN and too little firing of the pontomedullary reticular formation. http://www.jackkruse.com/brain-gut-16-adrenal-fatigue-rx/

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on August 29, 2015
at 08:13 PM

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Hope this helps!

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229faa9f9cb551cbf9d1d766b84cf8f5

on August 12, 2013
at 04:34 PM

Who "diagnosed" you with adrenal fatigue? An MD or DO, who are real doctors that (ideally) practice science based medicine, would never make such a "diagnosis" because adrenal fatigue is not a disease. "too low t3" and "too low cortisol" are not diseases either. Low T3 combined with too high TSH or too low T4 with symptoms present would indicate hypothyroidism and would be treated with hormone replacement therapy. A doctor would have the tools and education to assess this issue. Consider seeing a real doctor.

982727b4d8df3e57d3d9e8b406ff1182

on August 13, 2013
at 06:02 AM

I have been seeing a real doctor and have had several blood and saliva test done. For me AF is a condition and some believe it is a disease. What most important to me is to get much better, than I am now.

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