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Have you ever tried to influence a company to disinclude a "ROGUE" ingredient?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created April 07, 2011 at 5:30 PM

How many times have you encountered it? You find something that looks like a winner, and then you see that ONE rogue ingredient that disqualifies it. It'll make a preacher curse! You find a 100% coconut milk, and then it says guar gum in the ingredients? So does that mean it's really 98% coconut milk, and 2% guar guam? WTF?

A great example is the whey protein isolate mix that I found called NutraBio. They claim to use no additives and really make a big deal about using no funny ingredients. "Our unflavored WPI has absolutely no fillers, excipients or additives of any kind."

yet, upon further digging, I found this on their unflavored whey protein concentrate page...

"No additives except soy lecithin used during instantizing"

That's annoying. Just leave it out! Why do these people do this? Why do they insist on 'gumming up' everything. Just let it be clumpy or whatever. I don't freaking care. Ditch the lecithin! Leave the guar gums and xantham gums out of it. I will use my hand mixer to make it into a smooth drink anyway. Just give me the pure stuff. Gaah!

mini rant over.

I think Melissa is working on going after a company about something similar to this. It's a great idea!

Do you think we can make a difference as a community of people who are passionate about foods with only pure ingredients if we speak up loud enough? Have you ever tried?

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on April 08, 2011
at 12:18 PM

They don't even have the oysters to call it sugar..it's"dextrose""evaporated cane juice""crystallized fructomophonic barley syrup" or some other ridiculous name.

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on April 08, 2011
at 12:32 AM

I found Soy Lecithin in Tea. Why is there an emulsifier in a tea bag!?

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on April 07, 2011
at 11:59 PM

I have to agree with this. Just when I find something that might have good ingredients I see sugar listed. Does everything have to have sugar.

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on April 07, 2011
at 11:41 PM

My personal frustration is sugar added to salsas and otherwise great tomato sauces.

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on April 07, 2011
at 08:38 PM

She must've added that while I was commenting :). Awesome.

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on April 07, 2011
at 07:30 PM

Oranges - Look up Aroy-D. only one ingredient - 100% coconut milk. There's also an organic brand called "Let's Do Organic" with only organic coconut as the ingredient, but it's quite expensive. Also, Trader Joes has a 'light' version with only coconut and water. It's thin enough to drink like cream and it's pretty good. I still use it sometimes, even though it's watered down.

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on April 07, 2011
at 07:21 PM

Barb - check out Melissa's answer above with the link of the meetup. It's all about Chipotle and their soybean oil. I'm really hoping that she brings in CMast to twist their brains up pretty good.

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on April 07, 2011
at 07:16 PM

*now, not "not"

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on April 07, 2011
at 07:13 PM

not that you know better on canola, you should go after them again, but this time, ask them to use only mono heavy oils, like olive, mac nut, or even avo, all of which are so much better than soy or canola.

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on April 07, 2011
at 06:49 PM

"Unfortunately we use the soybean oil in all of our products". What an incredibly stupid response. Why didn't that person just say: I know we suck and it's unfortunate, but that's what we do. Please continue to enjoy our products".

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on April 07, 2011
at 06:37 PM

I have yet to find coconut milk WITHOUT guar gum.

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on April 07, 2011
at 06:13 PM

ugh, they suck, boo

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on April 07, 2011
at 06:07 PM

Agreed. I find myself cursing in the store frequently. "Why, why add that?" "What's the point?"

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on April 07, 2011
at 06:13 PM

I find myself muttering away at the grocery store all the time "why would you put that in here?...what the...oh come on...etc.etc" Thank goodness for me I have a toddler in the cart with me so I don't look so nutty talking to myself. It's a problem that leads to me leaving with little to nothing sometimes - or the flip side I go crazy and but so many things so I can home-make the products (which is better anyways - just hard on time aspect).

I was at a local health food store looking for supplements (K2, D3 and magnesium) the other day and was cursing at the shelves and shelves of bottles - the additives and junk in so many supplements are unbelievable (safflower oil, canola, soy etc.) - I mean c'mon I'm trying to be healthier not weighed down with junk!

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on April 07, 2011
at 06:03 PM

Yup... Wrote the following while I was still ok with canola oil. In my email to the makers of Marie's salad dressing, I make a pitch for their replacing soybean oil. Below is my request followed by their response:

To: mariesinfo@venturafoods.com Subject: question about ingredients Hello:

I???ve recently stopped using Marie???s Blue Cheese Vinaigrette dressing which I absolutely love. I did this because one of the ingredients is SOYBEAN OIL. Unfermented soy products are very unhealthy for a number of reasons. I wish you had products using canola oil instead. Might this be the case? Do you have products where canola replaces soybean oil?

Thought you might like some feedback from a once loyal customer.

Jim

Subject: RE: question about ingredients

Jim, Thank you for taking the time to contact us and for your interest in a Marie's Dressing. We will share your suggestion request with both our Marketing Team and our Research and Development Team so they may take your wishes under advisement. Unfortunately we use the soybean oil in all of our products. We hope that you will continue to enjoy Marie's Dressing for many years to come.

Consumer Affairs

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on April 07, 2011
at 06:13 PM

ugh, they suck, boo

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on April 07, 2011
at 07:13 PM

not that you know better on canola, you should go after them again, but this time, ask them to use only mono heavy oils, like olive, mac nut, or even avo, all of which are so much better than soy or canola.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on April 07, 2011
at 07:16 PM

*now, not "not"

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on April 07, 2011
at 06:49 PM

"Unfortunately we use the soybean oil in all of our products". What an incredibly stupid response. Why didn't that person just say: I know we suck and it's unfortunate, but that's what we do. Please continue to enjoy our products".

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on April 07, 2011
at 08:10 PM

The one that kills me is sugar in EVERYTHING.Sugar in soup,sugar in cheese,sugar in Rotisserie chicken.Who the heck puts sugar in their chicken at home? Lately,Lays chips have been advertising their "all natural" status.Turn over the bag and it's processed vegetable oil,maltodextrin,autolyzed yeast extract.Yeah,I grow that stuff right in my backyard all the time.(headdesk)

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on April 08, 2011
at 12:18 PM

They don't even have the oysters to call it sugar..it's"dextrose""evaporated cane juice""crystallized fructomophonic barley syrup" or some other ridiculous name.

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on April 07, 2011
at 11:41 PM

My personal frustration is sugar added to salsas and otherwise great tomato sauces.

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on April 07, 2011
at 11:59 PM

I have to agree with this. Just when I find something that might have good ingredients I see sugar listed. Does everything have to have sugar.

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on April 07, 2011
at 11:32 PM

Never underestimate the power of consumers - if you truly love a product it is probably worth writing to complain that you cannot support it despite your affection for it because of X ingredient. Who knows? Maybe others are also writing to complain.

It's noteworthy that a PaleoBrands fish meal that Melissa recently blogged about was addressed by Robb Wolf, who has taken steps to eliminate soybean oil from the meal in question.

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on April 07, 2011
at 07:18 PM

I'm with you and yes, I have. I'm not 100% paleo or primal, although I'm getting there from a traditional foods stance. Before removing grains I enjoyed Chipotle as a compramise restaraunt while on the road. Unfortuantely they use soybean oil and they aren't even concerned with using non-gmo. I've just gotten in the habit of taking homemade stuff with me wherever I go and avoid processed stuff as much as possible. And YES, Bree! I was looking at digestive enzymes and probiotics and the brand American Health is rediculous! There's SO MUCH SUGAR. WHY? Why does there need to be sugar? There doesn't. That and the papaya enzymes with chlorophyl are BRIGHT WHITE. Seriously? C.H.L.O.R.O.P.H.Y.L. shaking head with disbelief

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on April 07, 2011
at 07:21 PM

Barb - check out Melissa's answer above with the link of the meetup. It's all about Chipotle and their soybean oil. I'm really hoping that she brings in CMast to twist their brains up pretty good.

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on April 07, 2011
at 08:38 PM

She must've added that while I was commenting :). Awesome.

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on April 07, 2011
at 06:41 PM

That depends on how open I think the company's employees are to change, and thus what sort of return I might get from investing my time in trying to convince them to.

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on April 07, 2011
at 06:39 PM

I've not done it myself, but maybe this link is of interest: http://paynowlivelater.blogspot.com/2010/08/dear-tropical-sun-why-is-there-crap-in.html

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