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What does acne tell you?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created June 25, 2012 at 1:03 AM

I am curious if getting acne from a food is a good gauge on whether or not that food is good for your body. For example, if you ate dark chocolate (as primal followers do) and within the next few days you get a bad break out would you stop? Should you?

I listen to my body if it gives me obvious clues (pain or stomach discomfort) but I am unsure about what my acne is telling me.

Do you listen to your acne and adjust accordingly?

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

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on June 26, 2012
at 02:31 AM

@Shawn, you can buy hibiclens at CVS and put a teeny tiny bit on your face and it will kill the germs from touching your face.

0d892cb232c3c7d59699fd10c995595a

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on June 25, 2012
at 07:05 PM

Not that all cheap fish oil or other supplements are crappy.

0d892cb232c3c7d59699fd10c995595a

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on June 25, 2012
at 07:05 PM

Because you're unaware its rancid since you take it in capsule form, and dont even know what it should taste like in its pure form. By crappy, I meant cheap.

685e3c967e63b4eacccf02628fd9a3ac

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on June 25, 2012
at 01:01 PM

For me it's upside down. Touching my face does not cause acne, but acne causes me to touch my face because you feel it grow. Washing my skin has no effect.

46c9fbd45b82453f6a2dfe614a853314

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on June 25, 2012
at 10:42 AM

I'm curious why you would consume 'rancid, crappy, fish oil'...

Cbc1f37f2b79b079b0de479d5365a231

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on June 25, 2012
at 04:49 AM

Eating paleo made a big difference for me but I concur with the skin care product avoidance - by far this made for the greatest improvement!

Cbc1f37f2b79b079b0de479d5365a231

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on June 25, 2012
at 04:46 AM

+1 for 'face touching shock collar' ! My teenage years would have been easier if I'd had one of those! Could not stop squeezing and touching to save my life.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

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on June 25, 2012
at 02:09 AM

I have bad acne and CAN'T stop touching my face throughout the day. I'm always feeling the common areas I breakout to see if I'm breaking out...I probably make it worse. It's subconscious, a lot of times I don't realize I'm doing it. Any ideas how to stop myself from touching? I need someone to follow me around and whip me when I do, or maybe a face touching shock collar.

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747f9c27424619fe3ae717c7455c292e

on June 25, 2012
at 02:56 AM

In contrast to Chinaeskimo, the acne I had seemed to have very, very little to do with how often I washed or what I washed with. I spent years trying every face wash and cream in the store, and went on accutane - twice. Nothing seemed to work.

So imagine my amazement when I realized I could basically eliminate my acne by avoiding certain foods!

For me these foods are, nuts, dark chocolate, and fruit. I believe this is evidence of a leaky gut and dysbiosis, especially since the effects of eating them can be mitigated by taking activated charcoal. I hope to resolve the dysbiosis and begin enjoying these treats in moderation once more!

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on June 25, 2012
at 02:24 PM

If your acne is diet related then for sure it's an indication that the food (or particular style of eating) is not good for you. There are 4 ways food or diet can cause acne:

  1. Immune reaction. This can be allergic or a milder form of sensitivity reaction.
  2. Hormonal. The hormones that are linked to acne (mostly androgens and indirectly IGF-1 and insulin) are also linked to other health problems.
  3. Inflammation. Anything that increases systemic inflammation in the body can aggravate acne as patients are already under higher than normal oxidative stress.
  4. Gut problems. This is basically a subpoint of inflammation. Acne patients have higher rates of gut issues that can increase inflammation in the body.

Aggravation of any of the above points will also be bad for your overall health.

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B92f0eb5064beaff7abfdf406f658f04

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on June 25, 2012
at 06:32 AM

When I turned 30, I started getting pretty bad acne (with inflammation area - neck, chin). I would pay a visit to my dermatologist every 3-4 weeks since then and during every visit she prescribed me the same medical products to heal my skin. Nothing worked. I spent 10 months trying to get rid of my bad acne with this doctor but as she always gave me the same stuff (with antibiotical ingredients), and none of those helped, I stopped going to the doctor??s. I asked my dermatologist whether my acne had something to do with my diet (I was on a typical fitness diet - a lot of grains of course....) and she said no. Based on her evaluation, it was a matter of either genetics or hormonal influences. And my heavy workouts probably supported my acne condition because all the horrible sweat...bacteria likes the acidity level produced by the sweat while exercising...regarding the doctor??s opinion. Nobody in my family has ever suffered from these skin problems so I thought it must have been the hormonal thing. I stopped taking the birth control patches (evra) immediately and it helped quite a lot. But the biggest change arrived with going paleo. It works perfectly for me. Moreover, I am getting rid of the V-neck acne as well (sometimes called "solar" acne or "mallorca" acne as we call it here in Europe). I use only natural cosmetics which I adore.

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A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on June 25, 2012
at 03:03 AM

I like to think acne is one small indication of my overall health. I have made myself crazy with supplements and eliminating certain foods trying to "cure" my acne with diet. These days I am just trying to be happy with the fact that I am a healthy weight, I have (mostly) good energy, and I really enjoy the foods I eat. BUT, if I ever noticed a direct correlation of one food that caused acne I would definitely avoid it. I just suck at n=1 experiments. I can never tell what the hell I ate that caused some delayed reaction (unless it is an immediate "gluten = pain" reaction).

Mostly, I like to blame my acne on an evil goblin who lives in a Wheaties box and is hexing me. Damn goblin.

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03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

on June 25, 2012
at 02:02 AM

I get acne when: 1) I don't wash my pillowcase enough 2) I don't wash my hair enough 3) I don't wash my hands enough and touch my face a lot.

It isn't hormones with me or food, it is just plain old bacteria. I don't really see this acknowledged in acne questions, but I think it is relevant.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 25, 2012
at 02:09 AM

I have bad acne and CAN'T stop touching my face throughout the day. I'm always feeling the common areas I breakout to see if I'm breaking out...I probably make it worse. It's subconscious, a lot of times I don't realize I'm doing it. Any ideas how to stop myself from touching? I need someone to follow me around and whip me when I do, or maybe a face touching shock collar.

Cbc1f37f2b79b079b0de479d5365a231

(605)

on June 25, 2012
at 04:46 AM

+1 for 'face touching shock collar' ! My teenage years would have been easier if I'd had one of those! Could not stop squeezing and touching to save my life.

685e3c967e63b4eacccf02628fd9a3ac

(1026)

on June 25, 2012
at 01:01 PM

For me it's upside down. Touching my face does not cause acne, but acne causes me to touch my face because you feel it grow. Washing my skin has no effect.

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

(4100)

on June 26, 2012
at 02:31 AM

@Shawn, you can buy hibiclens at CVS and put a teeny tiny bit on your face and it will kill the germs from touching your face.

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46c9fbd45b82453f6a2dfe614a853314

on June 25, 2012
at 10:50 AM

I too am plagued with bad acne. I do visit the derm for that and a full body check once a year. I refuse to go on an Rx med for it, as I feel that it is 'anti-paleo' to be putting drugs in my body for something like acne (althought I understand some people really need it). I have found that the best ways to keep my face under control are: 1. Wash with a very gentle cleanser both morning and night. 2. I use Bare Minerals make up, cleansers, lotions, and sunscreens. It may not work for everyone, but as soon as I use other products, I break out within a day. 3. I use organic dental care products which I can actually read/pronounce the ingredients on the label. My derm said that many dental care products can contain harsh chemicals that many people are allergic to (and don't realize it).

NOTE:I do keep a fairly detailed food diary and have found NO correlation between my break outs and foods I eat, it is completely dependent on my menstrual cycle. I have also found that when I am working outside in extreme heat, that I break out a lot. I have tried many brands & types of sunscreen with all the same results.

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6ddb22a034e1a4e3a96d9f1907bb37e2

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on June 25, 2012
at 04:25 AM

I do listen, and adjust accordingly. After all, our skin is our biggest organ of elimination and if it is reacting then I know that its overwhelmed. I spent years eating what I thought was healthy, using the finest cleansers, astringents and had a skin regimen down. it didn't help my skin and it drove me bonkers!

I found out what was offending my skin, eliminated it, and now I wash my skin with water, and care not about frivolous skin products...my skin is clear, it took my a while but i learned to listen...

sure chocolate has its benefits and it really is a nice treat for us primal folk, but personally clear skin is more important to me...

Cbc1f37f2b79b079b0de479d5365a231

(605)

on June 25, 2012
at 04:49 AM

Eating paleo made a big difference for me but I concur with the skin care product avoidance - by far this made for the greatest improvement!

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0d892cb232c3c7d59699fd10c995595a

on June 25, 2012
at 01:57 AM

Its definitely a trial and error, and get-to-know-what-works-best-for-you situation. Chocolate messes with my skin. Worse than this, rancid, crappy fish oil makes me break out all over my back with huge boils. See what works for you (or aggrovates certain conditions) by process of elimination, and if certain symptoms (ex: acne) do not return when you re-introduce a specific food or substance, there's no need to eliminate it.

46c9fbd45b82453f6a2dfe614a853314

(1876)

on June 25, 2012
at 10:42 AM

I'm curious why you would consume 'rancid, crappy, fish oil'...

0d892cb232c3c7d59699fd10c995595a

(809)

on June 25, 2012
at 07:05 PM

Not that all cheap fish oil or other supplements are crappy.

0d892cb232c3c7d59699fd10c995595a

(809)

on June 25, 2012
at 07:05 PM

Because you're unaware its rancid since you take it in capsule form, and dont even know what it should taste like in its pure form. By crappy, I meant cheap.

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