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Wanna clear my acne and get some muscles

Answered on January 20, 2015
Created September 29, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Hello,

I am 21 years old guy. For the last ten years i have been suffering from bad to moderate acne. I have been visiting doctor a lot but stopped it two years ago when every treatment failed. The only chance was to go for roaccutane but i am going to be commercial pilot so i cannot risk my health. The reason why i am posting here is because I would like to get rid of my acne. During summer i have tried acnevac suplement and it was the first thing that helped me. i would like to give a try to Paleo because it seems that it can help me the same way as suplement did and it can be benefitical for my overall health. The only thing that i am worried about is my weight. I am very skinny guy( 66kg on 183cm) and i need to be somewhere about 75kg by next spring. WHile i am quite active person that is used to work out a bit there wont be a problem with my training but my question is if it is possible to get some muscles on paleo and at the same time heal my acne or do you recommend get weight with lots of saccharides and after that start paleo?

Hope there is not similar thread. If so please poste link cause i havent found it by myself.

Jan

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on October 06, 2012
at 07:02 AM

Overeating of course means eating more than what your body needs. From acne point of view, eat as much as you need, but don't stuff yourself or go out of your way to eat extra calories.

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on October 05, 2012
at 05:27 PM

So how would you recomend to eat through the day? If overaeting can kill my skin than it should be quite a problem for me cause i have very fast metabolism.

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on October 04, 2012
at 02:42 AM

yeah i hear ya. i guess we were just looking at it from 2 different perspectives. i agree with you.

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on October 04, 2012
at 02:41 AM

i get what you're saying. i guess we were just looking at it from 2 different perspectives. i agree with you.

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on October 02, 2012
at 05:35 AM

Hi Jake: I get where you are coming from. When I say "social function", I am referring to one's ability to function in the world now and in the future. Every action we do in the world is "social function". Not enough space here to elaborate but briefly, a person with high or optimal social function is someone who is highly-empowered and is able to easily impact/effect in their family/tribe/community/society, etc. A person with poor/low social function is poorly empowered. Functionality at the cellular/tissue/system/whole person/social levels are inextricably linked. Every level effects others.

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on October 01, 2012
at 03:35 AM

from my experience as a college guy any amount of restricting your diet just because it's healthy makes a lot of situations awkward when dealing with peers. i can see how you might look at it differently (ie lose weight/gain muscle/health on paleo gain confidence and social situations improve) but for me that wasnt the case. people look at you weird when you don't drink beer or eat pizza or subway, and it made me feel like a loner. most social functions involve food and food that isn't "paleo" so it can make those events stressful for someone who is just trying to be healthy and still have fun

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on September 30, 2012
at 10:21 PM

135 lbs, 5' 11", 17. My body weight dropped from around 145 when on Paleo. I think it's hard for me to gain weight because I am lowish carb, I eat 2500+ calories each day in fat and protein.

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on September 30, 2012
at 06:34 PM

cooking is what bothers me most. Not because of my laziness but because i am quite limited on college where i live. I am not even sure if we have an oven here. Got to find out it tomorrow. Btw thanks for cool links. Gonna chcek them at school :D

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on September 30, 2012
at 06:10 PM

Jan. There are lots of things out there..one is paleoplan.com , another is : http://balancedbites.com/2012/08/practical-paleo-book-extras-30-day-meal-plan-shopping-lists.html there is lots of free stuff that you can google. However, if you are as lousy a cook as I was at 21, this is not super-easy, nor super-simple, it is a life-change really...lots of learning, but it is 100% worth it. Good luck.

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on September 30, 2012
at 10:11 AM

Thanks for motivation post :), are there any meal plan that i can use as inspiration when i start?

30c8cb7a150385bb45606b439759ea90

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on September 30, 2012
at 10:07 AM

Can you add some info about your body(weight, high, age)? How did your body weight reacted when you startd with gasp?

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on September 30, 2012
at 01:03 AM

Hi jake: How can it not? But first, define for me what is your description of "optimal social function"?

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on September 29, 2012
at 11:58 PM

if you want to function optimally at a social level paleo is not going to help you with that. good answer though.

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on September 29, 2012
at 09:22 PM

Jan. Good luck in your quest to become a pilot. It is especially important for pilots to be healthy. Try to not think of the Paleo-type diet and life-style as a 'treatment' for being underweight or as a 'treatment' for acne. The only thing it is a treatment for is this: "Paleo lifestyle deficiency syndrome" ;-) Better questions are these: Do you want to be healthy (i.e. function optimally from the cellular level to the social level)? Do you want your body-weight to be optimal or even perfect? Do you want your skin and every other system of your body functioning optimally? If the answer is yes, then get after it! Become a true student of the Paleo paradigm/approach, be sure to not limit yourself to one author, one guru or one sub-set of Paleosphere as there are lots of people doing Paleo "their own way" and may be getting limited results. But, if you do it right, you may be amazed at what happens with you body and your skin and your life. Good luck.

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on September 30, 2012
at 06:10 PM

Jan. There are lots of things out there..one is paleoplan.com , another is : http://balancedbites.com/2012/08/practical-paleo-book-extras-30-day-meal-plan-shopping-lists.html there is lots of free stuff that you can google. However, if you are as lousy a cook as I was at 21, this is not super-easy, nor super-simple, it is a life-change really...lots of learning, but it is 100% worth it. Good luck.

30c8cb7a150385bb45606b439759ea90

(5)

on September 30, 2012
at 06:34 PM

cooking is what bothers me most. Not because of my laziness but because i am quite limited on college where i live. I am not even sure if we have an oven here. Got to find out it tomorrow. Btw thanks for cool links. Gonna chcek them at school :D

417ac0e162dc468b8ca61a574e5cd3c0

on September 30, 2012
at 01:03 AM

Hi jake: How can it not? But first, define for me what is your description of "optimal social function"?

30c8cb7a150385bb45606b439759ea90

(5)

on September 30, 2012
at 10:11 AM

Thanks for motivation post :), are there any meal plan that i can use as inspiration when i start?

Medium avatar

(2338)

on September 29, 2012
at 11:58 PM

if you want to function optimally at a social level paleo is not going to help you with that. good answer though.

417ac0e162dc468b8ca61a574e5cd3c0

on October 02, 2012
at 05:35 AM

Hi Jake: I get where you are coming from. When I say "social function", I am referring to one's ability to function in the world now and in the future. Every action we do in the world is "social function". Not enough space here to elaborate but briefly, a person with high or optimal social function is someone who is highly-empowered and is able to easily impact/effect in their family/tribe/community/society, etc. A person with poor/low social function is poorly empowered. Functionality at the cellular/tissue/system/whole person/social levels are inextricably linked. Every level effects others.

Medium avatar

(2338)

on October 01, 2012
at 03:35 AM

from my experience as a college guy any amount of restricting your diet just because it's healthy makes a lot of situations awkward when dealing with peers. i can see how you might look at it differently (ie lose weight/gain muscle/health on paleo gain confidence and social situations improve) but for me that wasnt the case. people look at you weird when you don't drink beer or eat pizza or subway, and it made me feel like a loner. most social functions involve food and food that isn't "paleo" so it can make those events stressful for someone who is just trying to be healthy and still have fun

Medium avatar

(2338)

on October 04, 2012
at 02:41 AM

i get what you're saying. i guess we were just looking at it from 2 different perspectives. i agree with you.

Medium avatar

(2338)

on October 04, 2012
at 02:42 AM

yeah i hear ya. i guess we were just looking at it from 2 different perspectives. i agree with you.

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on January 20, 2015
at 04:11 AM

Are you trying to both clear your acne AND gain muscle at the same time? The answer is yes, you absolutely can, and I have from experience. Make sure you have an optimal protein:carb ratio, for starters...and as for the acne, paleo is a good place to start because it means you're introducing your body to less hormones from conventional meat and dairy (hormonal imbalances are a biggie cause of acne), there will be more healthy fats in your diet as well as avoiding refined sugar which is a strict no-no on paleo and a major culprit of acne. Also, make sure you're well hydrated, the skin is an organ which we often forget serves the puropse of expelling toxins, keep all hats/headbands clean, and wash your pillowcase on a regular basis to clean away dirt and oil that may be causing acne, keep your hair out of your face, and see if you can find an oil free moisturizer that doesn't have too many toxic ingredients, because you're going to want to keep skin moisturized without adding extra oil [washing removes oil, and then to compensate the skin just pumps up more and more oil, which you don't want if you have acne] and I suppose if you're desperate, you could try a crushed asprin scrub every so often, asprin contains salicilicates(sp) which are similar to salicilic acid found in commercial acne medication.

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on October 03, 2012
at 11:05 AM

There should be no big problems with getting big and having clear skin. Bodybuilding doesn't inherently do anything to cause acne. I looked into it and it doesn't seem to cause any long-term hormonal changes. Post-workout there's a temporary increase in T levels, but the levels return to normal in 15 to 30 minutes.

What can kill your skin is protein and mass gainer supplements, overeating and post-workout drinks that 'boost' insulin levels. I know those can help you to get big faster, but they also negatively affect the skin.

30c8cb7a150385bb45606b439759ea90

(5)

on October 05, 2012
at 05:27 PM

So how would you recomend to eat through the day? If overaeting can kill my skin than it should be quite a problem for me cause i have very fast metabolism.

A39237551dac75eb36335098b0f5fa61

(525)

on October 06, 2012
at 07:02 AM

Overeating of course means eating more than what your body needs. From acne point of view, eat as much as you need, but don't stuff yourself or go out of your way to eat extra calories.

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on September 29, 2012
at 11:05 PM

I had problems with acne. I did a course of Roaccutane and it worked very well. I was lucky I didn't get any of the harsh side effects and the results have lasted, it makes a permanent change. But it never 'cured' the problem, just reduced it.

But you should absolutely do a Paleo diet. There's absolutely no reason you can't bulk up on Paleo, in fact it's perfect for building muscle because of all the meat. Just make sure you eat enough to get the protein you want (try and go for 2g of protein per kg of bodyweight) and your ratio of Omega 3:Omega 6 fats is good. And then make up the rest of the calories you need for bulking up with coconut oil and sweet potatoes.

Pantothenic Acid (I think Vitamin B5?) gave me good results before with Acne as well... but it was a high dose I was taking. Something like 10g of powder a day if I remember correctly. But my memory is fuzzy so you should research that for yourself. But it definitely worked.

Also, try and do strict Paleo without dairy for at least a month, and then if you decide to reintroduce it you'll be able to tell if you tolerate it or not. I was primal (Paleo + dairy) for a year and only just switched to Paleo cutting out the dairy and realised that i'm lactose intolerant and dairy is involved in my acne.

Also, you might consider not eating any fruit or vegetables at all for a while, and make sure to make up the vitamins/minerals from other sources.

Oh yeah... eat lots of turmeric, great anti-inflammatory properties. Eat it in everything.

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on September 29, 2012
at 10:49 PM

Hey, you should look up AI Paleo (Autoimmune paleo!). Cured my acne after the 30 day regiment. Also, seek out a naturopathic doctor. They can help!

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on September 29, 2012
at 10:25 PM

Unfortunately I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I have acne and I also want to get big. For now I have set aside any serious weight lifting till I am able to incorporate at least 150g of carbs in a day without any problems. I'm doing this through GAPS.

GAPS Diet, eat lowish carb 50-100g limiting starches and fructose till you improve your digestion with them. The broths are important, they have helped me so much. I don't take probiotics and don't eat fermented foods as I'm not sure I can handle them yet, I am improving so right now I don't feel the need to incorporate it. Follow some Paleo guidelines, such as dairy, which causes acne for me. Eggs and nuts also aggravate it.

I have been Paleo 6+ months and it wasn't till I started lowish carb GAPS that my acne has subsided in inflammation. I get maybe 1 inflamed spot on my face per week instead of the usual infestation all over my face.

Good luck, sorry for any confusing information, just post a comment and I'll answer any questions you have.

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on September 30, 2012
at 10:21 PM

135 lbs, 5' 11", 17. My body weight dropped from around 145 when on Paleo. I think it's hard for me to gain weight because I am lowish carb, I eat 2500+ calories each day in fat and protein.

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on September 30, 2012
at 10:07 AM

Can you add some info about your body(weight, high, age)? How did your body weight reacted when you startd with gasp?

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