Hey guys, I have really sensative tempormental skin, I have for years now. I changed my diet, witch helped so much to where I only have some hyperkeratonized skin on my arms and bum, face and then soul crushing acne, that just never stays away for very long.
I've been taking chromium, magnesium, zinc, vitamin e, Vitamin C, but my skin is so rough, horny little plugs, and dry.
I'm pretty paleo except that I eat sweet potatoes, and love peas with my carrots!
I was taking fermented cod liver oil, but it was fermented with butter which I felt uneasy about cause I know milk is bad and can worsen acne skin.
But I swear the healthier I eat, it seems the worse my skin is getting. I dunno if my skin is changing over, right now? I mean it's only gotten drastically worse in this one month, and I've been home in the caribbean where the food is natural and pure and so good! I eat pounds of greens a day! But I notice in my bowel movements...that they are normal colored! No caretonoids in them...I feel like my body is sucking them up or something.
Plus I now understand that plant fat soluble vitamins need fat, so I'm going to try eating a tablespoon of coconut oil to absorb better.
I really feel like i'm just super extra deficient and that my diet just isn't enough or needs to be upped in nutrition, cause growing up with my dad and a fast food diet everyday, I'm sure I sure didn't get enough vitamin A, C, and E especially.
Plus, we are supposed to eat grass fed animals that eat tons of vitamin a and such. I just feel like my vitamin stores are so low, I dunno how to stock them up and keep them stocked like normal healthy people.
Also, I wonder if having a fast metabolism makes it worse, cause I exercise and don't have a lot of fat on my body or don't store fat at all really, so how do I store my vitamins?
I'm really just wondering if and how anyone has helped their skin? Cause I really believe like the paleo founder says, that acne is from civilization.
I feel like the more developed a country the less healthy one is inclined to eat...well I know my family was that way.
My family is all fromt he caribbean and most drink milk and all and have clear skin, eat gluten, but I am the only one with the skin problems in a long line, so genetics...or culture?
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on August 06, 2013
at 05:10 PM
I feel for you. I really do. I have suffered through the same thing for so long. I have only now come to (mostly) conquer my acne through a multi-pronged approach. It is not dogmatically paleo in that everything I put on my skin is pure and something a caveman would have used or done. But I don't believe that I shouldn't benefit from the advances in science that can make up for what a shortfall in diet can do to cure me.
The jury is out on whether acne is really curable or not. And yes, everyone's body is different and reacts differently to foods. If you are interested in a great book that really gets deep into the science of the diet/acne connection I recommend you read The Clear Skin Diet by Alan C. Logan. That book changed my life. It is not a paleo diet but it comes close and is easily modifiable by removing gluten grains if you want to go that route. That's basically what I did.
The three essential things that have helped me go from face full of cystic inflamed acne to a spot here and there on a bad day:
1) NO processed sugar of any kind (desserts etc) and keeping sugary fruits also limited (berries are safe in small doses and not every day). Bananas, watermelons and many other tropical fruits are very high in sugar. Granted it is natural sugar but a person whose skin is reactive to high levels of sugar (as mine was) can and will react to too much fruit sugar.
2) NEVER drink milk or eat ice cream (the dairy + sugar are acne bombs) - but butter and goat's milk cheeses are ok in small, moderate, not every day amounts. Try cooking with coconut or olive oil to reduce the amount of butter used.
3) Supplements: I take a probiotic (gut health is essential) Perfect Skin by Genuine Health which is a well tested/formulated fish oil that is dairy free and with added zinc and genuine health multi + daily glow vitamin, with extra D because I am deficient and that is IT on vitamins - I think these have helped immensely and I agree don't overdue it here.
The second and not too be overlooked aspect of acne management is SKIN CARE. You have to get yourself into a good, simple and effective skin care routine. I use Paula's Choice (and if you are really interested in actually learning about skincare read her book The Original Beauty Bible). Her products are meant to be for sensitive skin, which if you have acne, you have! Less is definitely more in this realm.
I use the skin balancing cleanser, resist toner (which is basically a moisturizer for me bc my skin is oily) and when I wash my face I exfoliate with a WASHCLOTH ONLY at night, gently (this one step has actually helped immensely to unplug pores). I then use Retin-A (topical retinoid) at night (.0025% the weakest formulation in the smallest dose possible). Retin-A has helped re-surface my skin and eliminate a lot of old scars but again everyone's skin is different. If you dont have access to a dermatologist- Paula's Choice makes retinol products which are somewhat milder, but the same concept and have worked for many people who have tried it.
I can not stress enough how stress has a HUGE impact on acne and promotes it. Even if you are constantly stressed about your skin you are creating more acne. Journal, do Yoga, see a therapist, talk about your feelings. Whatever you have to do to stop being in a constant state of distress over your skin and whatever else you are going through in your life is essential. When it comes to exercise try YOGA. It will tone your body and help you to de-stress.
Above all else, know that you are not alone. That acne can be managed and defeated by some patience, and some methodical personal experimentation. Don't give up hope and try to stay positive about healing your skin - because that too can contribute to a better complexion. :)
on August 13, 2013
at 11:54 AM
It sounds that you have very sensitive skin so for that you have to take extra care of your skin. Don't touch your skin very frequently, make sure to wash your hands with antiseptic soap,(but remember never apply soap on your face) before touching your face. For acne you can use Lemon because it contains citric acid which helps to cure acne. Also your diet matters a lot for your skin, avoid oily and junk food. Oily skin is the big reason for acne which I have also experienced. More importantly drink water as much as you can because nothing can be more resulting than drinking plenty of water.
on August 07, 2013
at 04:02 AM
Just a few suggestions:
-stop the supplements for a few weeks -wash only with warm water and a soft, ALWAYS FRESH washcloth, or simply spraying your face in the shower -make sure you don't touch your face
I have super sensitive skin (ie, most sunblocks make my skin sting horribly; most cosmetics likewise hurt to wear), and until I stopped using any kind of cleaning product on my face my acne continued well into my late 20s. Now I only get pimples when I eat sugar or am stressed. (As these usually occur together, it's hard to control the variables.)
A final thought: maybe there's an inactive ingredient in your supplements which your skin doesn't like?
on August 06, 2013
at 03:15 PM
http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2013/02/what-causes-acne-an-overview/ That link might help.
"In Tim Ferris’s latest book The Four Hour Chef he explains how to use deconstruction to learn a new skill. Basically you boil the skill down to its bare essentials. In acne these are inflammation and hormones (insulin to be more specific).
Let me start by explaining the pimple formation process. Looking at what happens in your skin is important because, surprisingly, understanding this helps you to understand how diet, gut issues, stress and other things can cause acne. Acne is more than skin-deep, but it still happens at the skin."
Basically, if you have acne, you probably have inflammation on some level. (Surprise, right?)
There are so many things which interact to get your body to function WELL and avoid inflammation - magnesium, zinc, iron, chromium, boron, B vitamins, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Vitamin D, Vitamin K2, calcium, selenium, iodine, vanadium, potassium, Manganese, Silicon, Molybdenum, even Arsenic is required. It's so many substances, right? But before you run off and start taking a multivitamin with a million things (which there are anecdotes that it helps, just like there are anecdotes of everything helping, from honey masks to cream face washes, to benzoyl peroxide)
just realize that your body narrowly controls the amount of these substances in your body. YOu need them to be present, but present in the right amounts.
Paleo/Primal/Perfect health diet can help you get everything in the right amounts,but it's not a guarantee. Paleo diets could be low on Vitamin C, magnesium, and Vitamin K2 which is why it can be helpful to supplement with those, but as always, it depends on what you eat, and how you eat it. Maybe you love your local mineral water, and swim in the ocean a lot and you don't need Magnesium. Maybe you love leafy greens and eat a TON every day and your magnesium is pretty good.
Do you have any money to spend? If so, it might be a good idea to get an Organix urinary test, because it can tell you what vitamins/minerals you might be deficient in. Work with a naturopath on this.
One other issue which can affect your inflammation/skin health/hormones is the level of good to bad bacteria in your gut. I think something like 75% of people with skin problems have stomach issues. Your gut houses a lot of your immune system and if you've taken courses of antibiotics, it's possible that that let fungus outgrow the bacteria.
A good diet can help! I really recommend perfect health diet over paleo or primal because it's targeted at improving your health more scientifically and it would recommend you to eat foods which I bet are pretty similar to those you grew up eating - i.e. island food - lots of soups from bones, bananas or other tropical fruit, pickled foods like sauerkraut or cucumbers pickled with salt and water; and it tells you what nutrients to supplement to stop being deficient so that your body doesn't get an excess of any one vitamin or nutrient; the book is really great.
Be careful with your supplementation because getting too much of one thing can make another vitamin or mineral really low, which could further drive inflammation. Follow their supplementation plan, perfecthealthdiet.com - which will help your body slowly get into balance.
It will take time but realize that everyone probably thinks you're beautiful and just because something is paleo doesn't mean you won't react to it. everyone is different and it takes a while to overcome inflammation.
metametrix has an organix urinary test, organix profile, which may be a good place to start, and accessalabs or directlabs will sell them, around $450. If you're lucky, you'll find a coupon and that'll help. (But you still have to pay shipping)
on August 06, 2013
at 01:02 PM
A few notes:
-The concern with milk and acne is twofold: 1. The lactose in milk, being a sugar, can exacerbate acne, especially if you don't tolerate it well. 2. The hormones naturally occurring in milk are suspected of exacerbating acne (I've not seen any studies confirming this). Butter isn't going to have a lot of lactose; I'm unsure about the hormones, but I can speak from personal experience, that despite consuming liberal amounts of butter, my acne will only flare up if I start consuming sugars or gluten.
-Exercise can make you more likely to flare up with acne, as it's a stressor (too much can put your body under undue stress, making you more likely to break out) and it also stimulates hormone production, which can produce acne as a side effect. I'd argue that the benefits of exercise outweigh any potential risk of flare ups, but honestly it shouldn't be causing it unless you're training yourself 6 or 7 days a week (still good to keep in mind though).
Finally, are you still in your teen years/early 20s? Honestly, I've been eating Paleo for 4 years now and my acne has gotten better and worse over that period (been stable at better for a while now though). You may just have to wait it out, as your hormone production eventually balances. I'm not sure that we can immediately label acne as a disease of civilization; thinking of it from the perspective of natural selection, I can't see it having a huge effect on selection rates for humans. All things being equal, an non-acne scarred person would be more attractive than an acne-scarred one, but we don't neccessarily know that acne isn't a side effect of some beneficial trait that natural selection has been selecting for.