hey all, ive been paleo for over a year. strict, too. I still use Proactiv, though. I should say that i dont get breakouts anymore like i used to (presumably from eating proper all the time, and getting good sun) but i still use the proactiv. I suppose its just habit, but its also a kind of insurance, yknow? I would like to stop using it though, both for economics and to be completely chemical-free (or as much as we can be nowadays). Ive been googling saltwater face washes since i figure that we evolved near oceans, and it just seems like good quality salt would be a good cleansing agent. Maybe not daily but. Anyway, just thought id see what you all think. Cheers.
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on July 29, 2010
at 02:37 AM
My advice is try putting nothing whatsoever on your face. Your natural skin oil has antibiotic properties. It makes no sense to wash all the antibiotic natural oil off your face, then 'cleanse' it with an antibiotic drying agent, and the add moisturizer back on to make up for all the other crap you just did. We are trying to artificially copy what nature already does better. But we have been programmed from birth to think the artificial way is better. The companies who make the face products really did a good job of it! So we spend a lot of money for things that are worse than what is already free. When I first heard about this kind of no soap thing, for some reason, it seemed really weird, but then when I started thinking about it, I realized it all makes perfectly logical sense that nature already knows how best to take care of our skin.
I stopped putting artificial chemicals on my face and my skin is so much better now. It used to be oily in some places and dry in others. It's much nicer now. If it's super hot outside and I am getting sweaty and my face is shiny, I just wipe it off with a towel and it's all fixed. In the morning, I get in the shower and just rinse my whole body with straight water only. If I'm a bit dirty from hiking, I loofa or sponge with water. Rarely, I use a tad of all natural saponified oils (the old fashioned soap) if I really need to get some serious dirt off.
My advice: skip the salt and use straight water just to rinse off the dust and grime.
on July 28, 2010
at 08:50 PM
You might not need it at all anymore. After I went Paleo and dropped all Nightshades, my rosacia - which was really BAD - disappeared entirely.
I've gone soap / shampoo / deodorant / lotion / sunscreen (etc) free and I'm 45 and my skin looks incredible! All I do is rinse with tepid water. I cannot believe that I wasted money on all that crap all those years, LOL!
Good luck with your skin. Hopefully you'll never have to put those chemicals on it again. :)
on May 05, 2012
at 07:07 PM
Here is some microbiology for you: Bacteria have a cell wall on the outside of their cytoplasmic membrane.
The water on the outside and inside of the cell wants to have the same concentration of "floaties"(salts and sugars) These "floaties" don't just float through the membrane, they have to be transported through. Water, however, can pass through the membrane. When there are less "floaties" outside the cell, the water will want to enter the cell to even out the concentration. The water pushes its way into the cell, swelling the membrane, but is soon stopped by the cell wall.
Here is the cool thing salt water does: Salt water makes a higher concentration of "floaties"(salt) outside the cell than inside. The water will again try to equalize, but this time the water will flow out of the cell to try to dilute the water around it. This causes the cell membrane to shrivel up and the cell dies...
Here is what your natural sweat does: The salt in your sweat can do something similar to the description above, but your body makes a little something special called lysozyme. Lysozyme breaks down one of the chemical bonds inside the cell wall of the bacteria. Now that the cell wall is weak, if the cell absorbs too much water BOOM! The cell wall can no longer contain the pressure and the cell ruptures. (Egg whites also contain large amounts of Lysozyme.)
Anyway, I hope that helps you to understand the science behind some of the cures for acne out there. Good luck. ;D
on July 29, 2010
at 12:31 AM
The active ingredient in Proactiv, like many OTC acne products, is benzoyl peroxide. Benzoyl peroxide is a combination chemical exfoliant and antibiotic. Sea salt is a mechanical exfoliant. You may tolerate one exfoliant more than another. It's worth a try to see which one works for you, and which one you tolerate better. Also, if you choose benzoyl peroxide, generic is much cheaper than Proactiv, because you're not paying the salaries of Jessica Simpson or Vanessa Williams.
There's an interesting place in Iceland called (in English) the Blue Lagoon. The Blue Lagoon is a geothermal bathing pool created by pumping seawater into a rocky cavity next to a geothermal power plant. The combination of seawater and volcanic mineral mud creates a reputedly therapeutic paste for treating such skin conditions as eczema and psoriasis. You can see pictures of the lagoon, hotel and spa here: http://www.bluelagoon.com/ . I can't say whether or not their skin products work, but they're available online.