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Persistent acne / rosacea - what about Demodex mites?

Asked on October 05, 2017
Created September 03, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Not sure how much there is to this, but I have been reading about Demodex mites recently and their relation to rosacea.

Basically, they are microscopic arthropods that live in the hair follicles of most people (as many of 90% of people have it). They live in your eyebrows, eyelashes, scalp hair and crawl out at night (they are photosensitive) and consume your sebum. People with rosacea typically have more Demodex mites than the average person and a recent study (http://www.rosacea.org/press/archive/20040503.php) shows that bacteria carried by the Demodex mites causes inflammation and irritation in people with rosacea and can exacerbate symptoms. For the majority of people, they are harmless. I have mostly focused on rosacea symptoms, but I have read through a few acne boards and apparently it is an issue for acne sufferers as well, but I can't find any research for that specifically (didn't look very hard). Also, almost all dogs are carriers, so if you have a dog you probably have them as well.

I thought this was very interesting for people who have tried every dietary tweak suggested (yes, I eat fermented foods, organ meat, no nuts or dairy or sugar, supplement D, balance my omegas, etc) and still have problems with acne and Rosacea.

I did notice that my rosacea developed right around the time I started eating paleo. I thought it was just coincidence and the excess of vitamin A I was consuming exacerbated the symptoms, but right around this time I stopped washing my face with soap and started going longer without washing my hair at the suggestion of Everyone On the Internet. It makes sense that this caused basically an infestation of the Demodex mites. I am now washing my face twice a day with tea tree oil soap, washing my hair daily with tea tree oil shampoo and applying diluted tea tree oil to my face every night (spoiler alert: I read that tea tree oil kills the mites).

The actual question: Does anybody have anything to offer on this subject beyond what a cursory Google search reveals? What have you done to kill them off? Also, I can't seem to find any beneficial purpose of these critters, but do you know of any?

7904c7276d7e48f1be887fabd263bfd9

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on March 20, 2014
at 01:24 PM

Was under the impression that 'demodex' was more of a...I guess missunderstanding would be a nice way to put it.

With the mites being present in some number on everybody, but are more prevalent in those with compramised immune systems - skins in particular. So is treating the mites just treating a side effect?

Af086f0fa2dc4f294896d3c3b5e5e9a7

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on December 27, 2012
at 03:35 PM

I'm thinking of trying tea tree oil myself as I've recently read about those studies. I have been given eyelid wipes from eye doctors in the past, but stopped using them when I ran out. I might look into those as well.

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on December 27, 2012
at 03:32 PM

Marcy, I have had rosacea for 20 years and it cleared up significantly on a Paleo diet. Just sniffing red wine would cause my face to become red and hot. Now, I can actually enjoy a glass or two with no symptoms. However, a few weeks ago, I developed a stye, which is something else I've been plagued with for year. A few days after the stye appeared, I got very sick and wound up in the hospital with bacterial meningitis. The lab results found staph aureus as the bug that caused it. I've been reading up on it and it seems there might be a connection between staph and rosacea.

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on September 14, 2012
at 05:29 AM

I would just use 5% TTO for one or maybe two applications....then dont do anything to your skin. No washing, exfoliating, creams/oils, acne-picking, makeup, nothing. Our skin is delicate and self-cleaning. Soap & any sort of exfoliation is damaging. My face gets humid just from showering, & then I let it air dry or very gently dab dry with a towel. Society tells us to wash our skin constantly & put all sorts of creams on it...but it's just not good for our skin.

D4d83e7981ca572aaaa19fc620bb54f1

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on September 05, 2012
at 08:40 AM

By topically I meant applying it directly to the skin, not ingesting it. Since it helps some people, I thought it could be that something in it kills the mites. The main remedy mentioned on earthclinic.com is based on the mite theory. http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/rosacea1.html#TED I also meant applying coconut oil directly to the skin. Good luck, I hope you find a cure soon. ;)

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on September 04, 2012
at 11:21 PM

Yeah, my diet is solid (see question). Thanks, though. I am using the TTO and hope that will kill the mites, as I suspect that is the issue and not diet.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on September 04, 2012
at 11:19 PM

As much as I love the idea of everything being related to diet, I think at this point it is reasonable to assume that there is something else at play, which is why I asked about the mites. I appreciate you offering your experience and support, though!

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on September 04, 2012
at 11:18 PM

Yeah, I guess I should have made it clearer in my question, but I am mostly looking for responses about the mites. I am pretty well researched on diet and have tried all the obvious things. I was treating my "acne" for the last nine months using all the paleo protocols and it just continued to get worse until I realized it was rosacea. I have eliminated nuts, dairy, nightshades, alcohol, caffeine, gotten more sun, less sun, supplemented with zinc, selenium, vitamin D, primrose oil, washed with just water, used coconut oil, jojoba oil, etc... you get the point. (continued)

D4d83e7981ca572aaaa19fc620bb54f1

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on September 04, 2012
at 07:51 AM

I was thinking of it being used topically. I think the live bacteria in it are supposed to be beneficial somehow, so that's why the mother would be important. The same site suggests borax. I know rosacea isn't acne, but it may be worth trying the regiment http://www.acne.org/regimen.html I don't have rosacea, but have other skin conditions, so I try different things for skin. The things that help me are ACV and coconut oil topically. Oh, and diet, of course. More recently, it has been helpful to eliminate nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, bell peppers, chili peppers, eggplants, tobacco, etc.)

F6ce9302d62d8b4a1ef2fc813c294770

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on September 04, 2012
at 12:30 AM

Oh! And you are right that scientists are investigating connections between demodex mites and rosacea. I am a biology grad student, and I gave a presentation on this! People with rosacea have more of these mites, but it is not understood whether this is a cause or an effect of rosacea. Rosacea also has an inflammatory component.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on September 03, 2012
at 11:03 PM

It might just be be, but ACV is the equivalent of strip mining for my face. Even diluted it makes things fiercely red. Other than stimulating the production of HCI, do you know why ingesting ACV is supposed to help?

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on September 03, 2012
at 11:01 PM

Yes, it does plague the dogs and people alike. I hope my dog feels special that he is also being treated for my rosacea. He is one itchy mofo, so I wonder if he is also sensitive to the mites (yes, he is off all grains).

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on September 03, 2012
at 11:00 PM

I am going to see what the dermatologist can do after I give it one more month of trying to heal it on my own. I am one of those obnoxious it-must-be-falling-off-before-I-go-to-an-MD types. But if I end up going, I will probably give ivermectin a try - thanks, James.

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on September 03, 2012
at 10:12 PM

I didn't know that this was a problem for people! My dog had Demodex a few years back and had to have weekly dips from the vet in order to get them under control. This was the early 90s, so I'm sure the treatment has changed for dogs. Good luck!

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on September 03, 2012
at 10:10 PM

Some people on rosacea forums claim topical ivermectin helps them. I'm putting this as a comment instead of an answer since I have no opinion on whether this is a good idea or on the role of demodex in rosacea.

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on September 03, 2012
at 08:12 PM

Nice! I might give it a try because I haven't really washed my face with anything in over a year.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on September 03, 2012
at 07:08 PM

I'm glad that worked for you! I was hoping for a purely dietary approach too but it seems like there are a lot of people on PH who still have skin problems no many how many things they add in or remove. Again, congrats for your improvement!

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on September 03, 2012
at 07:06 PM

Too soon to really tell. I just started a couple days ago. That being said, it feels good to wash my face again and yesterday a friend told me (unprompted) that my skin is looking good. I'll update if it really starts improving / worsening.

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

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on September 03, 2012
at 06:55 PM

Have the tea tree oil products helped your face?

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on September 03, 2012
at 04:27 PM

Thanks, BBF! I will look into it.

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on September 03, 2012
at 04:26 PM

Thanks! I agree about avoiding endless antibiotics. I will look into in Ocusoft.

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2d1bfe3697dbc2410886a4b5eaf59854

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on November 09, 2012
at 05:38 AM

I have had skin rosacea symptoms (redness, skin thickening) for at least three years. In May of this years I developed ocular rosacea symptoms. As I was concerned about a bump and skin changes on my nose and I had a skin biopsy done to rule out basel cell carcinoma, and it came back positive for an overgrowth of mites. I immediately knew that my eye symptoms were also caused by reaction to, or excess, demodex.

I follow these directions as much as possible for my eyes:

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1203895-overview

I no longer follow advice not to wash with soap very often and to limit hair washing. Infrequent use of soap and water seems correlated with demodex overgrowth. I want those critters to feel unwelcome. I wash my entire body once or twice a day with Dr. Bronner's tea tree oil soap. I also wash my eyelids and lashes with it twice a day. I wash my hair with tea tree oil shampoo. I use Cromiton cream twice a day and topical Flagyl (Metrogel) once. Once a week I use Permethrin cream on my face and neck. I make a shea butter cream with a couple drops of tea tree in it and put that on my eyelids and scalp. I have done this for two months. I have seen a great lessening of symptoms, including characteristics I didn't realize were symptoms.

For example, my increasingly dry, sensitive skin which I had attributed to aging. Demodex overgrowth can plug and dry the skin, and many us begin moisturizing more to counteract that. This actually makes our skin more hospitable to the mites.

I am now able to tolerate wearing contact lenses and no longer feel as if I have sand in my eyes all the time. My eyes are no longer puffy and crusted shut every morning. My vision has returned to my normal near-sightedness.

For me, I do not think that purely dietary changes will help with rosacea symptoms caused by mites. While people with rosacea may have a stronger immune response to the presence of mites, I think it makes sense to reduce the mite population as well as inflammatory response. I had been taking measures to reduce inflammation for over a year for general vitality, and my skin and eyes continued to worsen.

I know that many people will have strong opinions about my using topical poisons to kill mites. I had begun to have alarming reduction in vision and constant eye pain and irritation. I am willing to treat my face and body to preserve my vision. For me, the line is oral treatment (there are miticides and antiobiotics), which I avoid. Most dermatologists idea that rosacea is "manageable cosmetic condition" that inevitably worsens. I think it worsens in most patients because as the result of not treating the presence of mites.

Hope this helps.

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on September 03, 2012
at 05:38 PM

I was diagnosed with rosacea a few years ago. The doctor told me I needed to be on antibiotics for months, probably years. There was no way I was going to do that. Instead, I decided to take probiotics, which did help. I also eliminated gluten from my diet.

My rosacea is completely resolved now, but I don't know if it was the probiotics or giving up gluten. Perhaps the combination? I do know that being gluten-free fixed several conditions that I'd had for years, including dandruff and joint inflammation.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on September 03, 2012
at 07:08 PM

I'm glad that worked for you! I was hoping for a purely dietary approach too but it seems like there are a lot of people on PH who still have skin problems no many how many things they add in or remove. Again, congrats for your improvement!

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on September 03, 2012
at 03:01 PM

If you think you have demodex, wash your face with Borax cream/cold cream with borax/sodium borate.

If you don't notice any improvement, you don't have issues with demodex.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on September 03, 2012
at 04:27 PM

Thanks, BBF! I will look into it.

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on November 08, 2012
at 04:43 PM

Paul Jaminet did a series on angiogenesis, http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2011/04/omega-3-fats-angiogenesis-and-cancer-part-i/,

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/category/disease/rosacea/

it includes omega-3 and 6 balance, and lipid peroxidation.

It's really, really interesting. Basically, because a lot of paleohackers supplement omega-3 and he says that this could really cause a lot of problems. In fact, he recommends no more than 1 lb of fish per week because of this problem.

he performs a study of existing literature and shows how inflammation, omega-3 and 6 imbalance, in particular DHA in EXCESS, plus a paleo-type diet, can lead to problems with skin.

From Paul:

"It looks like we have a recipe for angiogenesis:

DHA (fish oil) + retinyl (Vitamin A) + oxidative stress (numerous sources, I believe) = angiogenesis

(Angiogenesis is the creation of new blood vessels in mature tissue. (Vasculogenesis is the creation of vessels in a developing embryo.) It is a normal part of wound healing, but over a dozen diseases feature inappropriate angiogenesis.)

This recipe is invoked normally and properly during wound healing. But it is also invoked excessively in pathological contexts ??? notably in cancers and age-related macular degeneration, probably also in other angiogenesis-associated diseases such as arthritis, rosacea, obesity, psoriasis, endometriosis, dementia, and multiple sclerosis."

So it seems simple - eat anti-angiogenic foods, right? But unfortunately, many foods you need for healthy living are also angiogenic.

From Paul's site again: "Diet-Induced Angiogenesis

Many foods affect angiogenesis. In fact, cancer studies have identified dozens of plant foods, from garlic to tomatoes to leeks, that possess anti-angiogenic properties.

Let???s stick to the oxidized DHA pathway and see if there???s evidence that foods drive it.

You???ll recall the recipe was:

DHA + oxidative stress + retinyl protein = TLR-2 driven angiogenesis

If this pathway is important in human disease, then we should expect diseases of angiogenesis to be worsened by adding the ingredients on the left.

Specifically, cancer, AMD, rosacea, and so forth should be worsened by high doses of DHA, high doses of vitamin A, and low doses of antioxidant minerals like zinc or selenium."

me again: Is there any evidence for that pattern?

Yes! (per paul's site)

Specifically, high Vitamin A + too much DHA which gets oxidized can lead to rosacea (and many other conditions).

He goes on to recommend Lycopene (tomatoes!)- which is not modified to Vitamin A, and antioxidants - N-acetyl cysteine, zinc, selenium...

Go on to read his post. I think it shows a lot of thought that many MD's could not explain to you.

obviously you are right that there is something deeper - could be bacterial or fungal, for example, that could be going on, because Paul also says

"Rosacea can also be because of a C. Pneumoniae infection"

(which would be why the earlier poster saw an improvement on doxycycline, which affects the C. Pneumoniae bacteria)

Skin disorders can be really complex. good luck!

Their site is all, "too much of a "good" thing can be bad thing."

So your diet might be perfect, but you might need to add in some of this other supplemental foods - more tomatoes, less liver or fatty fish for example, for your rosacea to heal.

or maybe your diet is perfect and you have this bacteria....

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on September 03, 2012
at 03:35 PM

I have rosacea and was having problems with styes/chalazions, so my dermatologist and optometrist both recommended Ocusoft Eyelid Scrubs. Helped a bunch. I also took doxycycline 100 mg for a couple years but then stopped as who wants to take antibiotics forever? The skin rosacea redness eventually crept back in despite a near-paleo diet (I use dairy), but continuing to use the Ocusoft at least several times per week (and always after eye makeup removal) has kept me chalazion-free. Hope this helps.

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on September 03, 2012
at 04:26 PM

Thanks! I agree about avoiding endless antibiotics. I will look into in Ocusoft.

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on April 04, 2013
at 06:47 AM

Yes. I think you are correct. For whatever reasons the mites become too numerous (probably too much antibiotic or not enough soap or a cold or flu at one point). The mites carry the bacteria that cause rosescea and blepharitis; I think that if you keep the mites under control your body could keep the bacteria under control too. Tea tree oil is fabulous. I predict that the mites will be found to carry the bacteria and viruses that cause staph HSV HPV and squamous cell carcinoma. After using the tea tree oil on the eyelids and face my vision also improved significantly and my skin is properly moisturized. What a relief.

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F6ce9302d62d8b4a1ef2fc813c294770

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on September 04, 2012
at 12:26 AM

The only thing that worked to clear up my acne rosacea was a strict paleo diet (everything conventional failed, and only made it worse)! My acne rosacea (redness, clogged pores, and eye irritation) cleared up when I ate paleo, but ONLY AFTER CUTTING OUT DAIRY TOO. Maybe that could help you? Alcohol, dairy, sugar, and high glycemic foods like grains are all BIG rosacea flares for me. Avoid them!!

The absolute best diet for my skin involves using the following formulation for every meal: meat/protein + veggie. I get an amazing amount of variety with this formulation, because the meat/protein can be fish (salmon, tuna, mahi mahi), scallops, steak, ground beef, ground turkey, eggs, chicken breast/legs, turkey breast, etc. And the veggie can be raw or cooked...salad, carrots, cruciferous (cauliflower, broccoli, kale, brussel sprouts, cabbage, kohlrabi, collard greens), beets, swiss chard, sweet potatoes...you get the idea. And fresh (not dried or juiced) fruit makes a great dessert (pineapple, grapes, apples, peaches, bananas, mango, berries...there are so many delicious fresh fruits to choose from for dessert!).

Also I found that an excellent topical treatment is tea tree oil---diluted to ~5-10% with a carrier oil like joboba, coconut, and/or avocado. If I apply that at bed time, the redness is GONE by morning. Tea tree oil is a natural anti-mite, antibacterial, antiviral and anti-inflammatory. But don't use it full strength, because then it will irritate your skin.

I also wash my skin very sparingly and with water only...I tried conventional OTC acne products for years and they ruined my skin. I avoid excessive exfoliation and product use and anything that dries out my skin. Dry skin only makes my clogged pores and acne rosacea worse.

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on September 04, 2012
at 11:21 PM

Yeah, my diet is solid (see question). Thanks, though. I am using the TTO and hope that will kill the mites, as I suspect that is the issue and not diet.

F6ce9302d62d8b4a1ef2fc813c294770

(510)

on September 04, 2012
at 12:30 AM

Oh! And you are right that scientists are investigating connections between demodex mites and rosacea. I am a biology grad student, and I gave a presentation on this! People with rosacea have more of these mites, but it is not understood whether this is a cause or an effect of rosacea. Rosacea also has an inflammatory component.

F6ce9302d62d8b4a1ef2fc813c294770

(510)

on September 14, 2012
at 05:29 AM

I would just use 5% TTO for one or maybe two applications....then dont do anything to your skin. No washing, exfoliating, creams/oils, acne-picking, makeup, nothing. Our skin is delicate and self-cleaning. Soap & any sort of exfoliation is damaging. My face gets humid just from showering, & then I let it air dry or very gently dab dry with a towel. Society tells us to wash our skin constantly & put all sorts of creams on it...but it's just not good for our skin.

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D4d83e7981ca572aaaa19fc620bb54f1

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on September 03, 2012
at 09:28 PM

It may be worth giving ACV (apple cider vinegar) a try. It seems to work well for some of the people who have tried it. I think it has to be unpasteurized and unfiltered ACV with the "mother". It could sting a bit, so better to try it diluted in water first.

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/rosacea.html#ACV_72941

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on September 04, 2012
at 11:18 PM

Yeah, I guess I should have made it clearer in my question, but I am mostly looking for responses about the mites. I am pretty well researched on diet and have tried all the obvious things. I was treating my "acne" for the last nine months using all the paleo protocols and it just continued to get worse until I realized it was rosacea. I have eliminated nuts, dairy, nightshades, alcohol, caffeine, gotten more sun, less sun, supplemented with zinc, selenium, vitamin D, primrose oil, washed with just water, used coconut oil, jojoba oil, etc... you get the point. (continued)

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on September 03, 2012
at 11:03 PM

It might just be be, but ACV is the equivalent of strip mining for my face. Even diluted it makes things fiercely red. Other than stimulating the production of HCI, do you know why ingesting ACV is supposed to help?

D4d83e7981ca572aaaa19fc620bb54f1

(467)

on September 05, 2012
at 08:40 AM

By topically I meant applying it directly to the skin, not ingesting it. Since it helps some people, I thought it could be that something in it kills the mites. The main remedy mentioned on earthclinic.com is based on the mite theory. http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/rosacea1.html#TED I also meant applying coconut oil directly to the skin. Good luck, I hope you find a cure soon. ;)

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on September 04, 2012
at 11:19 PM

As much as I love the idea of everything being related to diet, I think at this point it is reasonable to assume that there is something else at play, which is why I asked about the mites. I appreciate you offering your experience and support, though!

D4d83e7981ca572aaaa19fc620bb54f1

(467)

on September 04, 2012
at 07:51 AM

I was thinking of it being used topically. I think the live bacteria in it are supposed to be beneficial somehow, so that's why the mother would be important. The same site suggests borax. I know rosacea isn't acne, but it may be worth trying the regiment http://www.acne.org/regimen.html I don't have rosacea, but have other skin conditions, so I try different things for skin. The things that help me are ACV and coconut oil topically. Oh, and diet, of course. More recently, it has been helpful to eliminate nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, bell peppers, chili peppers, eggplants, tobacco, etc.)

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on July 29, 2017
at 10:12 AM

I had rosacea for over 6 months. I was about to go on 8 weeks of antibiotics when I tried dermalmd rosacea serum and the night serum as well. My rosacea is completely gone. My skin feels and looks soooo much better. I got 3 tubes of this, but a little goes a long way. The moisturizer is nice, but it makes me break out a little. I only use it like every other day or sometimes just around the eyes and on cheeks. I would definitely recommend dermalmd.

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4f8fff566e348c28fc427105d68b74ca

on July 28, 2016
at 03:51 PM

I use proskin rosacea which targets the demodex mites and it is quite frankly amazing stuff (for me anyway). The metrogel and even hydrocortisone creams never did anythi g except irritate. This cream irritated at first but it felt like it was healing me and low and behold after a week I saw a huge difference. Now three weeks down the line my skin is smooth, free of puss filled spots and tehre is no redness. My fingers are well and truly crossed that this has done the job and I thank God I found it. Doctor says he will be recommending it to his patients to try.

So yes I believe demodex mites cause some forms of rosacea.

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on July 04, 2016
at 09:47 AM

Rosacea is a long term skin condition characterized by facial redness, small and superficial dilated blood vessels on facial skin, papules, pustules, and swelling. Rosacea typically begins as redness on the central face across the cheeks, nose, or forehead, but can also less commonly affect the neck, chest, ears, and scalp.

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879e24b74105c21873c25c7a4a97b3fa

on March 30, 2014
at 05:35 PM

@Marcy 1 Get this soap, I swear you will thank me. http://www.amazon.com/Grisi-Sulfur-Soap-Lanolin-Acne/dp/B003OXO61O/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1396199657&sr=8-3&keywords=sulfur+soap I tried everything under the sun and nothing worked. Dermatologists (there were many over the years) were stumped. The only thing that kept the acne from being completely disfiguring was benzoyl peroxide, but that exacerbated the rosacea. One dermatologist basically told me I had to choose: out of control rosacea or out of control acne. Nice, right? I even tried laser treatments (several rounds.) ANYWAY, about four months ago I discovered the link between rosacea/acne and demodex mites, and that sulfur kills them. I cannot recommend this soap highly enough. I don't think it matters which sulfur soap you get; there are several on amazon. I just picked this one because it had prime shipping. If you want to read my review there (this comment is a novel already) it's under 5 stars and I'm Kathleen from Verona.

0
879e24b74105c21873c25c7a4a97b3fa

on March 30, 2014
at 05:33 PM

@Marcy 1 Get this soap, I swear you will thank me. http://www.amazon.com/Grisi-Sulfur-Soap-Lanolin-Acne/dp/B003OXO61O/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1396199657&sr=8-3&keywords=sulfur+soap I tried everything under the sun and nothing worked. Dermatologists (there were many over the years) were stumped. The only thing that kept the acne from being completely disfiguring was benzoyl peroxide, but that exacerbated the rosacea. One dermatologist basically told me I had to choose: out of control rosacea or out of control acne. Nice, right? I even tried laser treatments (several rounds.) ANYWAY, about four months ago I discovered the link between rosacea/acne and demodex mites, and that sulfur kills them. I cannot recommend this soap highly enough. I don't think it matters which sulfur soap you get; there are several on amazon. I just picked this one because it had prime shipping. If you want to read my review there (this comment is a novel already) it's under 5 stars and I'm Kathleen from Verona.

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on March 20, 2014
at 05:06 AM

fist of all you should get tested on demodex to make sure you have the mites. there are other skin problems which can resemble to demodex. i had gone through intensive therapy in my days with some heavy drugs antibiotics and hormones which did not help the treatment at all. there is a line of products made by Ovante and detailed explanation on how to get tested on demodex. i had only used their eyes n mites lotion though which did help to get rid of the mites on my eyelids. Cant tell how effective other products are but if you have the mites on scalp and face, check this guys -

http://skinimprovements.com

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on March 20, 2014
at 05:05 AM

fist of all you should get tested on demodex to make sure you have the mites. there are other skin problems which can resemble to demodex. i had gone through intensive therapy in my days with some heavy drugs antibiotics and hormones which did not help the treatment at all. there is a line of products made by Ovante and detailed explanation on how to get tested on demodex. i had only used their eyes n mites lotion though which did help to get rid of the mites on my eyelids. Cant tell how effective other products are but if you have the mites on scalp and face, check this guys -

http://skinimprovements.com

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on March 20, 2014
at 01:24 PM

Was under the impression that 'demodex' was more of a...I guess missunderstanding would be a nice way to put it.

With the mites being present in some number on everybody, but are more prevalent in those with compramised immune systems - skins in particular. So is treating the mites just treating a side effect?

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on December 01, 2013
at 01:29 AM

I was diagnosed with rosacea in 2008, my symptoms happened almost overnight, I sufferer with extreme facial flushing which extents to my ears and neck, I have found that this condition has almost ruined my social life as my main triggers are alcohol, temperature change and emotions. The embarrassment of a flushing episode while with friends or even just in public was horrendous and caused me to become a almost recluse while trying out a cocktail of different oral and topical medications to try and relieve the condition, which I now believe made everything worse. I stumbled across a news article on these Demodex Mites and done a little research, after digging around for a couple off days I decided to try the Permethrin (scabies treatment) and Crotamiton (itch relief cream) approach, it has been a couple of weeks now of applying the Permethrin cream morning and night and the Crotamiton cream two to three times throughout the day and I can say the results are quite impressive and would say as much as fifty percent reduction in intensity and frequency of episodes, the burning ears that I would get like clockwork every evening lasting up to three hours only affects me maybe once or twice a week and the intensity in manageable, with the three hours or so that it use to last now maybe fifteen to twenty minutes max. I am continuing this approach till hopefully the symptoms are non-existent.

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on September 19, 2013
at 06:01 AM

An easy dietary controls can helps treating rosacea [spam redacted] or metronidazole cream is also useful in fighting bacteria in your body and effectively helps to treat rosacea acne.

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on September 16, 2013
at 05:57 AM

I have also dealt with acne and rosacea growing up. Just with the help of the internet I discovered A DECADE LATER that it's this dreaded demodex mite that basically ruined a great part of my life. I got clear y the help of Seabuckthorn Oil soap and I will praise this until I die. I want to help everybody with this problem to easily clear themselves of this crappy mite. https://www.facebook.com/demodexrosacea

http://curedemodex.com

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on August 29, 2013
at 02:26 AM

my rosacea cleared up in a week after starting Paleo. My migraines ( had them for over 50 years) also quit. Been Paleo for 4 months and NO problems. Lost 25 pounds also.

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on August 28, 2013
at 05:40 PM

I cured mine with a combination of topical tea tree oil and radical dietary changes, including raw garlic 2x per day and ground cloves. Mites love sugar, so be sure to eliminate ALL sugar (and bread) from the diet.

I had weepy, itchy eyes for YEARS before I finally figured out it was mites one night when I felt the sensation of crawling on my face. It was disgusting, but such a relief to finally know what was wrong. I was 50 but looked 65!

Good luck to all. Doctors are useless.

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on May 25, 2013
at 12:05 PM

the only way to control demodex mites (and i mean CONTROL) - because most of us with demodex want to kill it, get rid of it etc. - is to use natural topical products (creams, lotions etc) along with healthy diet. i learned the hard way through the years of fighting the mites. Trying to kill it is not only impossible but also harsh for the skin nad health in general. Think about it for a moment - all humans have mites living on our skin, the mites are part of our nature, part of our body if you will... and therefore it is impossible to kill them. Now, not all of us have the demodicosis, the skin condition where these tiny bugs gets out of control and start causing acne, rosacea and other skin problems. some body wrote here about vinegar - i tried it.it is useless. Mites live deep in our hair follicles so all these things like vinegar, deluted tea tree oil etc. are helpless. It won't stop demodex from causing troubles. My point is - instead of trying to kill, get rid of...it is best, safe and most effective to control it. bring it back under control. read more about it here - link text

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on May 17, 2013
at 04:15 PM

try going to a garden center that sells bonide organic insecticidal soap. it is a liquid soap made from potassium hydroxide (wood ash), how soap used to be made before sodium hydroxide took market control because of producing a hard soap and easy to package. I found it effective in the control of acne, rosacea, and demodicosis. If you find this useful please spread the word to any other sufferers of skin disorders.

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on April 22, 2013
at 04:24 PM

Hi,

Please help, I do not know where to start. My skin is horrlble, red sore, spotty. Where do I buy tea tree oil from, is the Body shop ok? I need help I can not go on like this, I dread leaving the house. I can't bear my husband looking at me. Please any body where do I start?

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on November 09, 2012
at 03:20 AM

I dealt with acne and Rosacea. my whole life. It got better on a paleo diet, however, it only completely cleared up when I cut out fructose and polyunsaturated fats.. I am pretty sure it is linked to the liver issues and polyunsaturated fats and fructose are very hard on the liver. Some good info. http://theprimalparent.com/2012/03/31/ibs-depression-skin-fructose-malabsorption/

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on November 08, 2012
at 09:26 PM

When I was diagnosed with Rosacea my DM sold me a face wash with a kajillion ingredients and also prescribed Finacea. I saw some immediate improvement but overall, symptoms persisted and my face was very dry. I did some digging around on PH and I have since stopped washing my face with soap, I exfoliate with a mesh cloth about twice a week. to treat the rosacea, I moisturize my face with jojoba oil mixed with a couple of drops of tea trea oil and the results are better than when I was using the Rx stuff.

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