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Paleo hasn't stopped my bad acne after 1.5 years. What now?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 25, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Hi guys!

I've been eating paleo for 1.5 years now, strictly for about a year. While it has helped my acne a tiny bit, it never cleared me up entirely and I still break out every day, badly with acne that leaves pitted scars. I have thyroid problems at well that I'm on medication for, but my doctor said that thyroid issues wouldn't cause acne, and I've had acne since I was 11 anyway. So why am I still breaking out at age 23?

EDIT: I am female, 5'1" 95lbs if it matters.

I typically eat grass-fed beef and lamb, occasional pastured chicken, wild caught salmon, bacon, occasional eggs, smoothie with canned coconut milk and frozen blueberries, small amounts of white rice and potato (sweet potato turns me orange so I avoid), leafy greens, squash and broccoli, occasional macadamia nuts or almonds. Fats are mainly from the meat, coconut oil and some olive oil now and then. Everything is organic. I never eat gluten, and dropped most dairy a long time ago (just dropped butter last week though).

I take D3, Zinc, Milk Thistle, Dessicated Adrenal with B Complex and Vit A, Curcumin and Vit. C.

I sleep 8+ hours/night in total darkness, exercise on an elliptical 3x/week and walk otherwise.

Currently I use a natural serum with witch hazel and niacinamide, copper peptide serum alternated with a lactic/salicylic combo, and emu oil which help a little but not much.

What am I missing here? All I can think of is stress, because I am very anxious a lot of the time. Otherwise, I could really use some suggestions! Thanks in advance for any help.

C4deaa6bb01626b4569e8992890381ab

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on December 01, 2013
at 02:09 AM

Anything non-irritating/inflammatory is Paleo! that is what Paleo is all about.

3fe2bf1367970868757ddf7ed7c62531

(817)

on January 11, 2013
at 12:08 PM

I would also suggest letting your skin detox. Only use castile soap and coconut oil for a few weeks on it. When you scrub your face and take all the natural oil off it, your face will try to over produce.. then you get oily and break out. There would be a phase where you are detoxing and moving to a more natural way where you are oily and feel it is getting worse.. some people say it takes a week others a month. I do not use soap on my face anymore (and very little on my body)..it is amazing how well the skin can take care of itself. A good rinse in the shower and occasionally some coconut oil

3fe2bf1367970868757ddf7ed7c62531

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on January 11, 2013
at 12:06 PM

As someone who healed their thyroid, I can't say that vitamins A/B/C helped. I fixed my adrenals by cutting all coffee, sugars (all of it for a time - honey, dates ect. added some back in once healed), and sleeping enough. The only vitamins I take are D3 (live in a place with little sun) and Magnesium since it is just not in the soil anymore. I take no thyroid meds anymore and my blood test look great.. my doc has been so shocked.

3fe2bf1367970868757ddf7ed7c62531

(817)

on January 11, 2013
at 12:00 PM

I second the magnesium! Oil on the stomach via the skin.

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on February 20, 2012
at 05:07 PM

Hi, I'm afraid seeds can be problematic too. It's often the storage proteins that cause an allergic reaction and those are present in both, nuts and seeds. Also, seeds contain lectins and other mechanisms against predation. Although I don't know a single case where somebody reacted to flax seeds, they are no exception. Anyway, I would classify them as somewhat safe, but if you've cut out anything else and the problem persists, just abandon them for a few days/weeks. You may also consider soaking them a few hours before using

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(419)

on February 20, 2012
at 04:18 PM

just curious if seeds should be avoided too - or if it is just true nuts that might be causing the problem?? if seeds are also a problem, what about things like chia or flax seed?? thanks!

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on February 19, 2012
at 09:26 PM

This is what I did. Note that there is an intimidatingly long list of potential side-effects, some really serious, some with permanent damage. I didn't get any of them, fortunately.

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(508)

on February 19, 2012
at 09:18 PM

I have heard that coconut oil clears up acne for some people that have not had luck with acne medications. I don't have acne myself, but recently started using coconut oil on my face and I am really liking what it's doing for my skin.

D4d83e7981ca572aaaa19fc620bb54f1

(467)

on January 30, 2012
at 10:47 PM

I too notice acne with nuts.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on January 30, 2012
at 06:00 PM

Some people break out from MSM, Kate, but it seems to be temporarily. I've bought an MSM lotion to try it out externally first.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on January 30, 2012
at 05:35 AM

Not really but I wasn't that bad off to begin with. Others may have to start slowly with dairy and maybe start out with safe cheese(cheese without enzymes or cultures and animal rennet). I supplement retinol, I take 80,000-100,000IU due to my very high metabolism but most people need much less, 5000iu is more than enough for most people in a slightly hypothyroid state.

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

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on January 29, 2012
at 10:34 PM

cliff I forgot to ask, did you optimize your vit. A and thyroid before adding the dairy in? How did you get your A and in what amount?

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(579)

on January 28, 2012
at 10:20 PM

I stopped getting spots immediately. For some spots it can take like 3 days for them to appear so that has to be taken into account as well. I can not get a spot for weeks but if I eat half a small potato I'll get a spot. It's important to avoid things like paprika and anything containing paprika (curry powder and cajun spice for example) too, not just the big things like tomatos.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on January 28, 2012
at 08:14 AM

@Shrimp I haven't tried all nuts. Couldn't find macadamia nuts, for example. But walnuts, almonds and hazelnuts cause problems. Soaking them helps, but not enough. Maybe roasting might work?

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

(225)

on January 27, 2012
at 09:37 PM

I will eventually; I just wanted to see if concentrated curcumin would help as I have digestive issues and probably absorb it better than that in turmeric.

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

(225)

on January 27, 2012
at 09:36 PM

I will try it; I don't have much to lose. I bought some gelatin, OJ and cheese from grassfed cows, and am planning on eating white fish like cod instead of salmon, an adding some chicken liver to my diet. Like Bruno, I don't think I can do the milk though, and I don't know how to get enough protein without eating a ton of meat. I am also confused as to how to balance the Vit. A with thyroid so it doesn't become suppressive.

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on January 27, 2012
at 07:43 PM

I take 1000 mg 1-3 times a day (kind of vague I know, haha, but I just take it whenever I think of it.) I figured out it works because I used a face cream called "Prosacea" that's main ingredient was sulphur. My skin instantly felt better so I figured there was a connection and I started supplementing with it. Apparently it's a really common deficiency because of mineral depletion in soil and it is so easily destroyed by cooking. I guess it is really important for all kinds of things your body needs to do. You have to constantly take it as your body doesn't store it, I believe.

685e3c967e63b4eacccf02628fd9a3ac

(1026)

on January 27, 2012
at 05:50 PM

I don't think I know someone in the whole world who managed to get rid of acne without supplements, Mallory.

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on January 27, 2012
at 05:12 PM

If you've found the real trigger, 1-2 weeks avoidance should be enough to see an improvement. Sometimes it's actually not one particular food, but the combination of gut irritants. If avoiding nuts/coconut, beef and salicylate rich foods doesn't help, I would suggest the autoimmune protocol without salicylates for 2 weeks. This won't be the most fancy time in terms of variety, but it might help.

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on January 27, 2012
at 04:54 PM

um...i would drop all the supplements...eat real food. its prolly something in all those pills

Bad3a78e228c67a7513c28f17c36b3cf

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on January 27, 2012
at 04:14 PM

How much did you take?

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on January 27, 2012
at 03:55 PM

Shrimp following rays protocol and eating liver or supplementing vit A usually clears up acne. All that stuff used to make me break out too.

685e3c967e63b4eacccf02628fd9a3ac

(1026)

on January 27, 2012
at 03:52 PM

Why don't you just eat kurkuma/turmeric? At least it's real food, and it should be easy to find...

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on January 27, 2012
at 03:48 PM

Seriously try the Ray Peat protocol first. It's not hard to follow, and should take care of your stress and skin issues.

685e3c967e63b4eacccf02628fd9a3ac

(1026)

on January 27, 2012
at 03:46 PM

If you use zinc for healing, you can ditch it too and use sangre de grado (http://www.iherb.com/Rain-Tree-Nutrition-Sangre-de-Grado-2-fl-oz-60-ml/17442?at=0) instead. Works amazing on skin. Zinc now does nothing for my skin or overall health. I would also stop eating pork, chicken and eggs and replace it with liver, gelatin, oxtail, bone broth, ... I don't think I can eat chicken and pork without breaking out.

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on January 27, 2012
at 03:42 PM

Maybe not macadamia nuts, but the rest does affect my skin. You know what I'd do if I were you? Try out the Ray Peat protocol now. I mean, if your acne is still bad, you've got nothing to lose, do you? Ditch curcumin and take magnesium and eat gelatin. Gelatin made my digestion perfect and my skin + joints a lot better.

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

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on January 27, 2012
at 03:21 PM

I have a gluten intolerance that causes migraines when I eat wheat, so I always eat strictly gluten-free. It doesn't clear my acne, though. Glad to hear it has given you relief. :)

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

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on January 27, 2012
at 03:15 PM

I am female and would like to avoid birth control, as I have stable, bearable periods and don't want to mess with them, as well as a family history of breast cancer that I don't want to risk. Thank you for the suggestion, though.

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

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on January 27, 2012
at 03:11 PM

I am taking the adrenal complex with A+B vits, and Vit C because I had reverse T3 issues my doctor thinks were caused by adrenal problems. I take Curcumin and Milk Thistle for liver support because my AST/ALT were high-normal. Zinc is for healing because my skin is ridiculously slow to heal, I failed the taste test, and it's hard for me to get enough. I wish I could take less pills because it sucks but I'm not really healthy and I think my body needs extra support. I can try avoiding some for a while, though.

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

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on January 27, 2012
at 03:06 PM

I was looking into Peat because my thyroid is far from optimized; I pooled reverse T3 for a while, recently cleared it with Cytomel and am now weaning off of that. Still running low temps and I've been dealing with this for over a year now. I am really afraid all the dairy and OJ will make me break out horrendously, though. I know milk, yogurt and cheese break me out and I'm not sure how to prevent that.

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

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on January 27, 2012
at 03:01 PM

I have never cut out beef, coconut or salicylates; I'll give it a try. How long do you suggest I avoid them? I have cut out eggs and nightshades for weeks with no effect. I don't know my 3:6 ratio exactly, but all the meat I eat is grassfed/pastured, I eat salmon regularly and olive oil and nuts sparingly. I'm sure it's decent.

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

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on January 27, 2012
at 02:56 PM

I have tried this before and I just keep breaking out. I break out on my back/arms too despite using free and clear detergents, so I think there's something else going on. I am trying to heal my pitted scarring while clearing the acne, and that won't go away without some product help unfortunately. Thanks for the suggestion though, hopefully I can get to that point someday!

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

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on January 27, 2012
at 02:53 PM

Thanks for the link! I do have some sort of moderate bacterial overgrowth that my doctor found, but I think that was in my colon. My gut gurgles all the time though, so it's worth a shot! Probiotics never seem to do anything, though, and I've taken some STRONG ones (VSL#3). Also cod liver oil breaks me out horrendously...I can do bone broth, though!

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

(225)

on January 27, 2012
at 02:51 PM

Thanks for the pep talk! :) I started taking 300mg of Milk Thistle last week, and I will keep up with the Curcumin for now but I might switch to using turmeric in my meals instead. I did test with high-normal AST/ALT levels but I'm not sure why my liver would be messed up when I eat well, rarely drink and haven't taken Accutane (and never will, it scares me!) Also, funny story: I've actually met with Dr. Grossbart once in person (author of Skin Deep) because he is from my city, read the book, but never fully did the exercises. Thanks for mentioning it; I'll give them another try!

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

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on January 27, 2012
at 02:39 PM

Dragonfly: I'll look into it, thanks! :) Paul: Yes, I am 95 lbs at 5'1", but my frame is small. Why do you ask? Korion: Do all nuts affect it? I would add magnesium but I already take so many supplements haha. I can work on the stress, though.

9143379e9450c76e3246db057133833d

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on January 27, 2012
at 10:45 AM

Apples aren't particularly good due to the starch and pectin that feeds bacteria. Oranges, cherries, watermelon, grapes are probably best. Any reason why milk doesn't work for you? Lactose issues? Hormone fears? Milk isn't necessary with Peat but it's a good choice due to high protein content, calcium, a bit of thyroid, and some other good stuff. If you can't do milk then cheese can be an effective substitute.

685e3c967e63b4eacccf02628fd9a3ac

(1026)

on January 27, 2012
at 09:24 AM

Is milk necessary though? I'm prepared to try OJ and lots of apples, regular liver and raw carrots. I already do gelatin and mostly saturated fat. But milk... no thank you.

685e3c967e63b4eacccf02628fd9a3ac

(1026)

on January 27, 2012
at 09:21 AM

Wow. That's a lot of zinc. And a lot of chromium... If I'd take that much zinc I'd become very horny.

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on January 27, 2012
at 01:02 AM

@nick- If you don't really eat that much meat you don't need it, I don't consume any but I'm basically vegetarian.@senneth- Milk used to give me the craziest acne, I found vit A to be very very important.

59d367d77f4082717bade07508624db8

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on January 26, 2012
at 08:33 PM

I think Chris says he restricts insoluble fiber while healing the gut. Soluble fiber like sweet potatoes are fine. But the sentiment is the same; I think shrimp would benefit from a more gut-oriented diet, having his/her nutritional bases covered. Bone broth, probiotics, fermented foods...

9143379e9450c76e3246db057133833d

(273)

on January 26, 2012
at 08:27 PM

Ha, ok. When you said "hybrid paleo" I thought you meant more towards hanging on to some paleo things like fatty fish rather than fully Peat. I'm much the same these days, with lots of OJ, milk, almost no PUFA, etc.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on January 26, 2012
at 07:04 PM

Like everyone says, stress is a BIG factor in acne. It's so important! Sleep longer if you can! But most of all : MAGNESIUM MAGNESIUM MAGNESIUM I swear it's the most important supplement I take : if I don't take it for 1 day I get zits.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on January 26, 2012
at 07:02 PM

Try cutting out everything that might be a problem : eat only beef, lamb, fish you like, coconut oil and vegetables. See if that works. If it does, start reintroducing to see what doesn't help. Do NOT eat nuts. They made my acne worse than ever, 10x worse than eating french fries all the time.

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on January 26, 2012
at 06:24 PM

The milk on the Peat diet made me break out in horrible acne. (normally my skin is clear). I did not optimize my vit A, though. But I had to give up the milk after a few months. I may give it a try again, now that I have been working on my thyroid and taking vit a.

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on January 26, 2012
at 05:24 PM

Once the gut is healed; I use Lots of milk and easily digested fruits for sugars for ~50% cals. The main difference for me from paleo was reducing all PUFA, inc O3, to a bare minimum and losing the fear of sugars. The sugars I do consume are all via fruit so its still paleo. right ?! ;).

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on January 26, 2012
at 05:09 PM

Salicylates can be good for you, but they can be bad for some people who have sensitivities. It's like beef is probably good for most people, but there are a tiny amount of people with beef allergies.

9143379e9450c76e3246db057133833d

(273)

on January 26, 2012
at 05:07 PM

Nice. May I ask, what is your take on a Peat/Paleo hybrid? I believe I did something similar for a while but have transitioned more towards fully Peat.

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on January 26, 2012
at 04:54 PM

A hybrid Peat paleo regimen has cleared my skin like nothing else, ever. Even the sinister roaccutane didn't work for me

9143379e9450c76e3246db057133833d

(273)

on January 26, 2012
at 04:25 PM

I can vouch for this. I had mild to moderate acne for years with some of it the cystic variety. Paleo made it somewhat better. VLC paleo eliminated it entirely but I was always cold so I think it had more to do with my metabolism shutting down. Adding in starches brought it back to a degree. Once I had given Ray Peat's stuff a few weeks it cleared up entirely and I haven't seen it since. As for all the supplements, well, I'm not much of a fan myself. I just take Vitamin E.

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on January 26, 2012
at 04:04 PM

I sort-of follow Peat. How important do you think the gelatin is? I don't like it much.

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on January 26, 2012
at 03:37 PM

Salicylates in food can cause acne and other odd symptoms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salicylate_sensitivity

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on January 26, 2012
at 02:42 PM

how do salicylates cause acne? They are used as a treatment for acne...

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on January 26, 2012
at 10:55 AM

Try the great suggestions below, and if all else fails, get a prescription for Accutane and pray you don't get any side effects on the long and nasty list. It fixed mine, with no side effects.

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

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on January 26, 2012
at 09:49 AM

+1 I had the best results, when I didn't even wash my face. Just left it untouched (of course after the dietary triggers had been eliminated).. and avoided soap when having a shower

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on January 26, 2012
at 09:45 AM

I had severe acne and nightshades, dairy and salicylates were the main trigger for me... now that I eliminate them, I'm completely clear. I think an adverse omega ratio can worsen a underlying condition.

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on January 26, 2012
at 01:34 AM

Not sure what else you may be using ON your face (sunscreen, makeup, moisturizers) but check everything for cyclopentasiloxane. It is in freaking everything and some acne-prones (like me) are very sensitive to it. Also ethylhexyl palmitate is fairly ubiquitous and problematic for many.

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on January 26, 2012
at 01:04 AM

@Efaitch, totally understand this response, but BC choices are individual and personal. I'm not getting the sense that acne was the only reason for the pills. I just get a little tired of a knee-jerk, natural-is-always-better response to hormonal BC.

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on January 25, 2012
at 09:41 PM

Wow! I'd be staying away from BCPs for many reasons... I would be looking at *why* my hormones were out of whack rather than going on a pill to put it right...

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on January 25, 2012
at 09:37 PM

I was thinking omega ratio... especially with the supplementation of fat soluble vitamins...

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on January 25, 2012
at 09:32 PM

I agree with Bill. I also had acne from puberty thru my mid 30's. Tried antibiotics, benzoyl peroxide, hospital-strength anti bacterial washes and even that mall kiosk super drying product (can't think of the name just now). My point is that when I stopped washing my face with that crap and just used water and a wash cloth, my oily skin disappeared and the acne went with it. And that was before Paleo. Like you I have a thyroid issue and I also have HS which I now control with a strict Paleo diet & turmeric pills.Its worth it to try no soap and coconut oil as a moisturizer. Good luck!

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on January 25, 2012
at 08:58 PM

How long until you saw results?

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on January 25, 2012
at 08:53 PM

Are you underweight?

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on January 25, 2012
at 08:48 PM

Shrimp -that sounds like you are doing everything right, sorry its not working. I hope you get some great suggestions!

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on January 25, 2012
at 08:39 PM

I am 27 and have had bad (partially cystic) acne since I was about 13. The only thing that has ever worked for me besides Rx antibiotics is 2.5% benzoyl peroxide twice a day and oil-free lotion. Food can make my acne worse but it can't cure it. My father had really terrible acne as a young person so I think genetics has more to do with mine than anything. Yea, chemicals suck but acne sucks worse.

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on January 25, 2012
at 08:27 PM

It's the stress. Try some EFT (www.eftuniverse.com)

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on January 25, 2012
at 08:09 PM

yeah, supplements may contain problematic fillers

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on January 25, 2012
at 08:50 PM

Hi Shrimp,

I completely feel your pain and understand the frustration of having a visible, 'out-there' condition that everyone can see, and one that packs a fair punch to your self-esteem to boot! You should go easy on yourself and know you're doing a super job by the sounds of everything in your post. Hang in there!

The thing that stands out to me in your diet description is when you said sweet potato tends to turn you orange - this is known as carotenemia and has to do with the conversion of Beta-carotene to Vitamin A. Palms, soles of feet etc can tend to become yellowy if someone is eating a crudload of anything high in carotenoids, but shouldn't happen if you just eat a small amount.

This makes me wonder about the function of your liver - where the conversion happens. If it's underperforming, a whole range of metabolities, toxins and whatnot won't be excreted - prime acne-forming conditions. Also, the liver is so important in the digestion of fats, and while we love 'em, I think some people can find it hard on a high-fat diet such as paleo to emulsify them correctly if liver/gallbladder are taxed. Have you ever taken a course of Accutane? This could severely compromise your liver function.

What I've found to be of massive help, is taking St Mary's Thistle every day - around 300mg of Silymarin (active ingredient) - after about a month of taking this (in conjunction with saw palmetto and vitex as I have PCOS, and correcting omega 3:6 ratio) my acne is finally dying, hurrah! St Mary's Thistle is hepatoprotective and restorative. Ie can restore liver cells and promote glutathione production (master antioxidant) amongst other amazing things.

You're already taking cucurmin - i'd stick with that too as it's fab for liver health, but try supporting it's function as much as possible and consider food allergies and intolerances as suggested above (once again, eating intolerant foods will impact on the liver and 'clog it' so to speak).

Of course, stress and negative self-perception plays a massive role too. I found this ebook about mentally overcoming skin conditions to be incredibly helpful.

(Oh, um, are you male or female? Consider hormonal imbalance such as PCOS if lay-dee).

All the best, keep positive, and know that your skin will NOT be like this forever. You're doing wonderful things for your health and soon enough everything will fall into place :)

685e3c967e63b4eacccf02628fd9a3ac

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on January 27, 2012
at 03:52 PM

Why don't you just eat kurkuma/turmeric? At least it's real food, and it should be easy to find...

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

(225)

on January 27, 2012
at 02:51 PM

Thanks for the pep talk! :) I started taking 300mg of Milk Thistle last week, and I will keep up with the Curcumin for now but I might switch to using turmeric in my meals instead. I did test with high-normal AST/ALT levels but I'm not sure why my liver would be messed up when I eat well, rarely drink and haven't taken Accutane (and never will, it scares me!) Also, funny story: I've actually met with Dr. Grossbart once in person (author of Skin Deep) because he is from my city, read the book, but never fully did the exercises. Thanks for mentioning it; I'll give them another try!

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

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on January 27, 2012
at 09:37 PM

I will eventually; I just wanted to see if concentrated curcumin would help as I have digestive issues and probably absorb it better than that in turmeric.

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6371f0ae0c075ded1b8cd30aafd4bf16

on January 25, 2012
at 10:58 PM

chriskresser.com/naturally-get-rid-of-acne-by-fixing-your-gut

Try this.

In summary, Dr. Kresser says that acne can be a sign of Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth (S.I.B.O.) In short from what I gather he recommends Paleo elimination diet but also eliminate starchy food including starchy veggies, fermented Cod Liver Oil, Probiotics and digestive enzyme support.

59d367d77f4082717bade07508624db8

(1198)

on January 26, 2012
at 08:33 PM

I think Chris says he restricts insoluble fiber while healing the gut. Soluble fiber like sweet potatoes are fine. But the sentiment is the same; I think shrimp would benefit from a more gut-oriented diet, having his/her nutritional bases covered. Bone broth, probiotics, fermented foods...

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

(225)

on January 27, 2012
at 02:53 PM

Thanks for the link! I do have some sort of moderate bacterial overgrowth that my doctor found, but I think that was in my colon. My gut gurgles all the time though, so it's worth a shot! Probiotics never seem to do anything, though, and I've taken some STRONG ones (VSL#3). Also cod liver oil breaks me out horrendously...I can do bone broth, though!

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Ef4c5b09fdccf73be575d3a0c267fdd9

(2539)

on January 25, 2012
at 08:46 PM

Have you tried not putting things on your face? That for me got rid of my 100% when paleo didn't.

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on January 26, 2012
at 09:49 AM

+1 I had the best results, when I didn't even wash my face. Just left it untouched (of course after the dietary triggers had been eliminated).. and avoided soap when having a shower

Adc6de1f0b69763b98b61a8b72846eb9

(0)

on January 25, 2012
at 09:32 PM

I agree with Bill. I also had acne from puberty thru my mid 30's. Tried antibiotics, benzoyl peroxide, hospital-strength anti bacterial washes and even that mall kiosk super drying product (can't think of the name just now). My point is that when I stopped washing my face with that crap and just used water and a wash cloth, my oily skin disappeared and the acne went with it. And that was before Paleo. Like you I have a thyroid issue and I also have HS which I now control with a strict Paleo diet & turmeric pills.Its worth it to try no soap and coconut oil as a moisturizer. Good luck!

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

(225)

on January 27, 2012
at 02:56 PM

I have tried this before and I just keep breaking out. I break out on my back/arms too despite using free and clear detergents, so I think there's something else going on. I am trying to heal my pitted scarring while clearing the acne, and that won't go away without some product help unfortunately. Thanks for the suggestion though, hopefully I can get to that point someday!

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E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on January 25, 2012
at 08:02 PM

When I hear acne the first thing that comes into my mind is food allergy/sensitivity.

Since you are gluten and dairy (ghee might be better than butter) free we have to take a deeper look:

Have you ever eliminated:

  • Nuts incl. coconut products?
  • Fruit and vegetables rich in salicylates and amines?
  • Egg whites? (Maybe yolks too)
  • BSA (bovine serum albumin) allergy can result in dairy AND beef allergy, ever cut out beef?
  • Are you allergic to cat/dog dander? There's often a cross reactivity to meat
  • Nightshades?

And what about your omega 3:6 ratio?

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1811)

on January 25, 2012
at 09:37 PM

I was thinking omega ratio... especially with the supplementation of fat soluble vitamins...

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on January 26, 2012
at 09:45 AM

I had severe acne and nightshades, dairy and salicylates were the main trigger for me... now that I eliminate them, I'm completely clear. I think an adverse omega ratio can worsen a underlying condition.

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on January 27, 2012
at 05:12 PM

If you've found the real trigger, 1-2 weeks avoidance should be enough to see an improvement. Sometimes it's actually not one particular food, but the combination of gut irritants. If avoiding nuts/coconut, beef and salicylate rich foods doesn't help, I would suggest the autoimmune protocol without salicylates for 2 weeks. This won't be the most fancy time in terms of variety, but it might help.

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

(225)

on January 27, 2012
at 03:01 PM

I have never cut out beef, coconut or salicylates; I'll give it a try. How long do you suggest I avoid them? I have cut out eggs and nightshades for weeks with no effect. I don't know my 3:6 ratio exactly, but all the meat I eat is grassfed/pastured, I eat salmon regularly and olive oil and nuts sparingly. I'm sure it's decent.

0c1b326ffcf37b1174d64bb1db5ac95c

(419)

on February 20, 2012
at 04:18 PM

just curious if seeds should be avoided too - or if it is just true nuts that might be causing the problem?? if seeds are also a problem, what about things like chia or flax seed?? thanks!

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on February 20, 2012
at 05:07 PM

Hi, I'm afraid seeds can be problematic too. It's often the storage proteins that cause an allergic reaction and those are present in both, nuts and seeds. Also, seeds contain lectins and other mechanisms against predation. Although I don't know a single case where somebody reacted to flax seeds, they are no exception. Anyway, I would classify them as somewhat safe, but if you've cut out anything else and the problem persists, just abandon them for a few days/weeks. You may also consider soaking them a few hours before using

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6a26f2ca2cd1c5c5afcda9276b309a9c

(579)

on January 25, 2012
at 08:28 PM

Removing nightshades completely got rid of my acne.

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(2682)

on January 25, 2012
at 08:58 PM

How long until you saw results?

6a26f2ca2cd1c5c5afcda9276b309a9c

(579)

on January 28, 2012
at 10:20 PM

I stopped getting spots immediately. For some spots it can take like 3 days for them to appear so that has to be taken into account as well. I can not get a spot for weeks but if I eat half a small potato I'll get a spot. It's important to avoid things like paprika and anything containing paprika (curry powder and cajun spice for example) too, not just the big things like tomatos.

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E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on January 26, 2012
at 02:42 PM

www.raypeat.com

I had acne all over my body till I optimized my thyroid.

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

(225)

on January 27, 2012
at 03:06 PM

I was looking into Peat because my thyroid is far from optimized; I pooled reverse T3 for a while, recently cleared it with Cytomel and am now weaning off of that. Still running low temps and I've been dealing with this for over a year now. I am really afraid all the dairy and OJ will make me break out horrendously, though. I know milk, yogurt and cheese break me out and I'm not sure how to prevent that.

07243c7700483a67386049f7b67d90a4

on January 26, 2012
at 05:24 PM

Once the gut is healed; I use Lots of milk and easily digested fruits for sugars for ~50% cals. The main difference for me from paleo was reducing all PUFA, inc O3, to a bare minimum and losing the fear of sugars. The sugars I do consume are all via fruit so its still paleo. right ?! ;).

9143379e9450c76e3246db057133833d

(273)

on January 26, 2012
at 05:07 PM

Nice. May I ask, what is your take on a Peat/Paleo hybrid? I believe I did something similar for a while but have transitioned more towards fully Peat.

9143379e9450c76e3246db057133833d

(273)

on January 26, 2012
at 04:25 PM

I can vouch for this. I had mild to moderate acne for years with some of it the cystic variety. Paleo made it somewhat better. VLC paleo eliminated it entirely but I was always cold so I think it had more to do with my metabolism shutting down. Adding in starches brought it back to a degree. Once I had given Ray Peat's stuff a few weeks it cleared up entirely and I haven't seen it since. As for all the supplements, well, I'm not much of a fan myself. I just take Vitamin E.

C7fa1bf712d466cf7e9f2a404d5f0e34

(40)

on January 26, 2012
at 04:04 PM

I sort-of follow Peat. How important do you think the gelatin is? I don't like it much.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on January 27, 2012
at 03:55 PM

Shrimp following rays protocol and eating liver or supplementing vit A usually clears up acne. All that stuff used to make me break out too.

9143379e9450c76e3246db057133833d

(273)

on January 26, 2012
at 08:27 PM

Ha, ok. When you said "hybrid paleo" I thought you meant more towards hanging on to some paleo things like fatty fish rather than fully Peat. I'm much the same these days, with lots of OJ, milk, almost no PUFA, etc.

07243c7700483a67386049f7b67d90a4

on January 26, 2012
at 04:54 PM

A hybrid Peat paleo regimen has cleared my skin like nothing else, ever. Even the sinister roaccutane didn't work for me

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on January 26, 2012
at 06:24 PM

The milk on the Peat diet made me break out in horrible acne. (normally my skin is clear). I did not optimize my vit A, though. But I had to give up the milk after a few months. I may give it a try again, now that I have been working on my thyroid and taking vit a.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on January 27, 2012
at 01:02 AM

@nick- If you don't really eat that much meat you don't need it, I don't consume any but I'm basically vegetarian.@senneth- Milk used to give me the craziest acne, I found vit A to be very very important.

685e3c967e63b4eacccf02628fd9a3ac

(1026)

on January 27, 2012
at 09:24 AM

Is milk necessary though? I'm prepared to try OJ and lots of apples, regular liver and raw carrots. I already do gelatin and mostly saturated fat. But milk... no thank you.

9143379e9450c76e3246db057133833d

(273)

on January 27, 2012
at 10:45 AM

Apples aren't particularly good due to the starch and pectin that feeds bacteria. Oranges, cherries, watermelon, grapes are probably best. Any reason why milk doesn't work for you? Lactose issues? Hormone fears? Milk isn't necessary with Peat but it's a good choice due to high protein content, calcium, a bit of thyroid, and some other good stuff. If you can't do milk then cheese can be an effective substitute.

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

(225)

on January 27, 2012
at 09:36 PM

I will try it; I don't have much to lose. I bought some gelatin, OJ and cheese from grassfed cows, and am planning on eating white fish like cod instead of salmon, an adding some chicken liver to my diet. Like Bruno, I don't think I can do the milk though, and I don't know how to get enough protein without eating a ton of meat. I am also confused as to how to balance the Vit. A with thyroid so it doesn't become suppressive.

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

(225)

on January 29, 2012
at 10:34 PM

cliff I forgot to ask, did you optimize your vit. A and thyroid before adding the dairy in? How did you get your A and in what amount?

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on January 30, 2012
at 05:35 AM

Not really but I wasn't that bad off to begin with. Others may have to start slowly with dairy and maybe start out with safe cheese(cheese without enzymes or cultures and animal rennet). I supplement retinol, I take 80,000-100,000IU due to my very high metabolism but most people need much less, 5000iu is more than enough for most people in a slightly hypothyroid state.

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9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on January 25, 2012
at 09:08 PM

I was having some weird acne issues awhile back, which was annoying because I never had acne before paleo. I was reading my friend's Acne Troubleshooter and it made me realize that my own acne might be related to some supplements I was taking. And also that acne isn't always related to oil. http://blog.vitalobjectives.com/2011/12/acne-troubleshooter-v20.html

I stopped putting anti-acne stuff on my face (I just moisturize with coconut oil at night sometimes) and stopped taking supplements, except D, and it went away.

But you might also have to look beyond paleo and into things like salicylate intolerance http://failsafediet.wordpress.com/

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on January 26, 2012
at 02:42 PM

how do salicylates cause acne? They are used as a treatment for acne...

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on January 26, 2012
at 03:37 PM

Salicylates in food can cause acne and other odd symptoms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salicylate_sensitivity

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on January 26, 2012
at 05:09 PM

Salicylates can be good for you, but they can be bad for some people who have sensitivities. It's like beef is probably good for most people, but there are a tiny amount of people with beef allergies.

5e816d3249fd4bceb096d4ae7183df1a

(508)

on February 19, 2012
at 09:18 PM

I have heard that coconut oil clears up acne for some people that have not had luck with acne medications. I don't have acne myself, but recently started using coconut oil on my face and I am really liking what it's doing for my skin.

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on January 11, 2013
at 10:30 AM

Gut dysbiosis or SIBO. Get a stool test to see what your gut flora consists of. Do you have too much bad bacteria? Parasites? Yeast?

Get a methane-hydrogen SIBO test to see if you have it.

Eat fermented foods (just a little - one or two spoons) with every meal.

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6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on February 19, 2012
at 08:54 PM

I had really bad acne until I was about 25. The only thing that fixed it up was a course of roacutain. It's pretty drastic, and pretty full on medication. I have been good ever since though, 7 years+. I wasnt paleo at the time. I would only recommend as a last resort.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on February 19, 2012
at 09:26 PM

This is what I did. Note that there is an intimidatingly long list of potential side-effects, some really serious, some with permanent damage. I didn't get any of them, fortunately.

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Bdf98e5a57befa6f0877f978ba09871c

on January 27, 2012
at 03:31 PM

I just skimmed answers here, so not sure if this has been said, but when I had bad acne it turned out to be a skin infection a bout of heavy antibiotics helped to clear it up. I coupled tht with a topical gel (and I have pretty sensitive skin) called Duac (prescription), and that kicked the rest of it. In my case, diet has helped to keep the acne away, but never would clear it up.

1
0bd9775b305d2a602d496649982bc614

(252)

on January 27, 2012
at 03:38 AM

Gluten. I used to have acne all over my body. Cystic ones even. Gross. Once I eliminated gluten from my diet, it completely went away. Very strict gluten free diet is key. I do the gluten free diet very strictly...meaning that I don't eat any hidden gluten like soy sauce, also, I avoid msg or any added chemicals. When I was doing half-way gluten free, not-so-strict, it didn't do much. I would still have acnes. When I was diagnosed with Celiac and went 100% gluten free, all the acnes went away, just vanished like I never had those-it was magical.

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

(225)

on January 27, 2012
at 03:21 PM

I have a gluten intolerance that causes migraines when I eat wheat, so I always eat strictly gluten-free. It doesn't clear my acne, though. Glad to hear it has given you relief. :)

1
386700275df921e6b53346afe5082173

on January 26, 2012
at 11:55 PM

Paleo + 1000mg of Omega 3 epa+ 200mg of zinc supplement+ 500mg of Chromium picolinate improved my skin SIGNIFICANTLY.

I had been battling this stuff since i was 13, and im 24 now. Super embarrassing. I highly recommend you trying it. I got it off Dr. Emily Deans blog and decided to give it a try. Hasnt worked perfectly, but better than any over the counter face wash/program since ive tried them all.

685e3c967e63b4eacccf02628fd9a3ac

(1026)

on January 27, 2012
at 09:21 AM

Wow. That's a lot of zinc. And a lot of chromium... If I'd take that much zinc I'd become very horny.

1
193b7fb0fec8913d5ebb3b99a04d21c6

(2918)

on January 26, 2012
at 04:39 PM

Someone above mentioned not putting crap on your face. I wanted to add that I'm severely allergic to fragrance and most OTC acne soaps contain it, which is dumb, because who smells your face?

I've had a lot of luck with Trader Joe's tea tree oil soap in the shower, and a few splashes of water on my face before bed. HTH.

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on January 26, 2012
at 02:10 PM

I've seen serious probiotics really help acne. One specific one is a soil based one called Prescript-Assist. It contains native bacteria (like what we are born with) and I watched someone transform over the course of about 6 months with severe acne to none with this stuff. Start off slowly, as it's pretty strong. Best taken right before bed. There are many places to purchase it, here's just one I found:

http://www.perfectsupplements.com/Prescript-Assist-Soil-based-Probiotic-Prebiotic-p/Prescript-Assist-90.htm

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9beda76f4e91faedc8fa70ecdc01251e

(298)

on January 25, 2012
at 08:31 PM

Just a thought that's easy to try and cheap:

Lightly scrub water and baking soda on your face when nearing a breakout, then rinse with an apple cider vinegar and water solution. It might seems sticky afterwards, so maybe then wash gently with soap you like. See if that doesn't kill off bacteria in your pores...

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20cc903ebccaeb1e652da3a596e8dfb4

(1038)

on January 25, 2012
at 07:49 PM

With such a good diet, why are you still taking so much extra stuff? You sound like a walking pharmacy, which is what most people are trying to avoid on paleo. I would be suspicious of some of the supplements and perhaps try avoiding them one at a time and see if anything changes.

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on January 25, 2012
at 08:09 PM

yeah, supplements may contain problematic fillers

Abc6a2c0a2906de3d0246f02ca31b6d7

(225)

on January 27, 2012
at 03:11 PM

I am taking the adrenal complex with A+B vits, and Vit C because I had reverse T3 issues my doctor thinks were caused by adrenal problems. I take Curcumin and Milk Thistle for liver support because my AST/ALT were high-normal. Zinc is for healing because my skin is ridiculously slow to heal, I failed the taste test, and it's hard for me to get enough. I wish I could take less pills because it sucks but I'm not really healthy and I think my body needs extra support. I can try avoiding some for a while, though.

3fe2bf1367970868757ddf7ed7c62531

(817)

on January 11, 2013
at 12:08 PM

I would also suggest letting your skin detox. Only use castile soap and coconut oil for a few weeks on it. When you scrub your face and take all the natural oil off it, your face will try to over produce.. then you get oily and break out. There would be a phase where you are detoxing and moving to a more natural way where you are oily and feel it is getting worse.. some people say it takes a week others a month. I do not use soap on my face anymore (and very little on my body)..it is amazing how well the skin can take care of itself. A good rinse in the shower and occasionally some coconut oil

3fe2bf1367970868757ddf7ed7c62531

(817)

on January 11, 2013
at 12:06 PM

As someone who healed their thyroid, I can't say that vitamins A/B/C helped. I fixed my adrenals by cutting all coffee, sugars (all of it for a time - honey, dates ect. added some back in once healed), and sleeping enough. The only vitamins I take are D3 (live in a place with little sun) and Magnesium since it is just not in the soil anymore. I take no thyroid meds anymore and my blood test look great.. my doc has been so shocked.

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(246)

on January 24, 2014
at 04:22 PM

If you still are suffering from this hurting skin problem I suggest:

Avoiding the application of anything on your face, let your skin breathe (this tip alone has helped many) I personally have experienced applying salicylic acid on my face and although after three weeks it cleared my acne for a small while the acne bacterium built up a resistance to the acid and came back full throttle.

The thyroid medicine may be interfering with the zinc absorption and other bodily processes imbalancing your hormones.

Stress has been linked to acne in various journals, search "acne stress" in pubmed for references

Stress has also been shown to suppress the immune system and if Candida is the reason behind your acne than you may want to take potent probiotics like Milk Kefir which is the only thing that worked for me even after two years of anti-biotics and accutane use but take it in small doses first as it can be very strong and cause constipation if taken in too high amounts.

Many people also get cystic and regular acne from being allergic to all citrus and even night shades and if your one of the 20% of Americans who are sensitive to oxalates you may want to reduce those foods with high oxalate content: seeds, some greens etc.

Heavy metals like mercury have been linked to acne and so if you have "silver dental analgams" you may want to have them removed as a last resort once all the above has been tried and also be sure your fish is wild and not farmed because that can be a big mistake in regards to mercury consumption.

It is rare to find pastured bacon not fed grains, let alone organic grains, plenty of pastured pigs are fed gmo feed such as wellness meats (which they disclose on their website) and grains are known to cause acne, remember you are what you eat eats too.

Here's the Wellness Meats link stating that their pig feed is GMO Corn and Soy

http://blog.grasslandbeef.com/bid/87109/US-Wellness-Pork-II

Good luck, hope to hear an update

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(246)

on January 24, 2014
at 04:05 PM

Not sure if you still have acne but here's a few suggestions.

Stress has been linked to acne in multiple studies, check pubmed search "acne stress" for references

On top of that stress has been shown to depress the immune system which can make a person more susceptible to Candida and if you have had candida since the beginning it may still be out of control.

Grass Fed Raw Milk Kefir cured my candida after 3 weeks, it was the only thing that worked after countless meds.

Stop putting anything on your face and let it breathe and repair itself naturally (this tip alone has helped many people get clear skin)

Your meds may be the culprit

You may be allergic to citrus or nightshades or be sensitive to oxalates which all can cause acne and cystic acne.

Lastly mercury is known to cause acne, perhaps you may have "silver dental analgams" which may be the cause since everytime you eat vapor is released.

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7b9d154c0f3cc15d5645c21cd32481e8

on December 25, 2013
at 03:48 AM

If your thyroid is fine, I would check your hormones like FSH and LSH which could contribute to acne. That is where mine comes from and it is worse around that time of the month. Proactiv also took away my acne.

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on December 01, 2013
at 04:17 AM

Maybe this isn't a food/skincare problem. Check for PCOS and learn how to manage the stress, and check if you have candida. Stress feeds on hormonal disorders and hormonal disorders feed off stress. Candida can affect PCOS, which causes a lot of acne for women. Non-PCOS people play on a whole different hormonal ball game compared to you, so all you're gonna get is "oh you MUST be doing something wrong! do this do that add more meat cut out vitamins why are you putting that on your face do this that"

So please, check to see if you have PCOS and Candida, and if you do, act accordingly.

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on December 01, 2013
at 01:52 AM

Have you tried any of the Salcura range of Natural Skin Care Products, I tried every medication and cream that the doctors could give me including changing my diet but nothing worked, it did not help that I was also diagnosed with rosacea so I was trying to combat that at the same time, so my skin took a hammering for a few years, I found a solution for the rosacea and my symptoms are almost under control but the acne breakouts were still occurring until I applied for a free sample of Salcura's Antiac spray which seemed to give immediate results and no harsh chemicals, so I now combine their Daily Acne Wash with Antiac Spray and a Derma Sensitive Spray. Try their free sample it can only be worth a try!

SALCURASKINCARE.COM

WWW.SKINHELPREVIEWS.COM

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537001f30670e73eb0ac45779af649a5

on October 09, 2013
at 12:58 PM

I am experimenting with Fast Tract to Digestion IBS. My theory is a lot of people with acne have sibo. FT calculates the fermentation potential of foods and limits ones with a high FP. certain potatoes/rice are high FP some are low.

This may control SIBO.

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on January 11, 2013
at 10:27 PM

My friends please stop this craziness. I did it myself. I am now a medical student and I can tell you that you can harm yourself ireversably. Again I did it myself. Cut off all the suplements. Eat a relatively normal healthy diet without sugar and dairies but full of vegetables, fruts, fish and with little amounts of cereals. Don't do excesive things, it's dangerous (like eating a lot of meat and fats, like taking large amounts of zinc, like taking accutane, like taking large amounts of fish oil). You are obsesed with acne and is no good because you are destroing your life. Try Benzoil Peroxide, in 99% of the cases works preaty well, you have to stick on it and put hydraiting cream after. Decide what you want to do with your life because right now it seems that you are only interested in treating your acne. Moderation in everithing!!!!!!! Our bodies are very senzitive, for some unlucky persons only taking 60mg of zinc per day for 3 years can activate a gene that can cause for example cancer!!!! Sorry for the english but I am from Romania.

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Bfddc0ab925c8ea0e0c2e87198514907

on January 11, 2013
at 10:46 AM

Oftentimes it can be because of a fungal problem, but remarkably dermatologists rarely test for this.

A couple of friends of mine cleared up years of acne problems using Nizoral shampoo to wash the area (and the hair on their heads) in the shower.

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Bdc6244bdbd664d2168a8e326018ffbe

(431)

on January 11, 2013
at 10:11 AM

Benzoyl peroxide. Paleo didn't help my acne at all- I think it was the result of being on antibiotics for mild acne for literally years, and so I consumed tons and tons of fermented foods/probiotics, tried all the paleo things as I was convinced it was systemic. The probiotics may have helped, but it was definitely benzoyl peroxide and the dermatologist that cleared it up totally and erased the scars, within a month. A bp 10% facial wash and an extremely effective fading cream for the marks. Together they cost more than my monthly food budget, but damn are they effective. Fyi, I had tried B vitamins, zinc, K2, oil-cleansing (very briefly), coconut oil, turmeric, green tea, Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Vitamin A, and salicylic acid in addition to all the probiotics. A few of these helped a bit, but not much.

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2006ccb2b60f9cc5ba5e8eff8a7abc46

on February 19, 2012
at 08:18 PM

are you stressed a lot? do you menstrate, do you weigh enough? excessive testasterone and stress will cause zits. dietarly i think that you should drop all the coconut/seed/nut oils, stick with butter or ghee and animal based fats like cod liver oil, cut down on sweet potatoes and rice and sub. roasted root veggies, carrots, parnips, turnips...add some saurkraut if you dont want to go the probiotic route and just be very dilligent to keep sugars low, no grains, not a lot of fruit besides berries and some citrus if you can tollerate that, protiens moderate and fatty fish and meat a good part of your diet. i swear greasy greens, roots and a good chunk of meat and patience is very healing for almost all ailments...best of luck:

For more Paleo hacks: http://paleohacks.com/questions/92778/paleo-hasnt-stopped-my-bad-acne-after-1-5-years-what-now#ixzz1mrQIl4rB

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on February 01, 2012
at 07:20 AM

I am not paleo, but stumbled upon this thread - hope you don't mind if I post here. I agree with those who are suggesting you consider food intolerances as the possible culprit. I completely sympathize with your acne issues. I am 35 and still fighting cystic acne. After trying what felt like everything, I eliminated nightshades and got maybe 80% clear. Now I'm wondering if it is really a salicylate sensitivity. (e.g. I think citrus, pineapple, berries, and nuts are problem foods for me - because of my experiences, when I looked at your food list, the blueberries and nuts jumped out at me as possible culprits) Doing a true elimination diet is the only real way to know, but that may be very hard for you while sticking to a paleo diet. I am doing a kind of haphazard elimination diet (and keeping a detailed food diary) but it is difficult because my acne appears 3-4 days after eating a problem food. "Food Allergies and Food Intolerance" by Jonathan Brostoff has a very detailed guide on how to do an elimination diet. Best of luck to you!

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on January 30, 2012
at 05:57 PM

Thanks Lutfisk! I'm going to pass this info on to my daughter.

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on January 30, 2012
at 06:00 PM

Some people break out from MSM, Kate, but it seems to be temporarily. I've bought an MSM lotion to try it out externally first.

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on January 26, 2012
at 04:59 PM

MSM (sulphur) completely cleared my skin when Paleo didn't. Try it!

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on January 27, 2012
at 04:14 PM

How much did you take?

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on January 27, 2012
at 07:43 PM

I take 1000 mg 1-3 times a day (kind of vague I know, haha, but I just take it whenever I think of it.) I figured out it works because I used a face cream called "Prosacea" that's main ingredient was sulphur. My skin instantly felt better so I figured there was a connection and I started supplementing with it. Apparently it's a really common deficiency because of mineral depletion in soil and it is so easily destroyed by cooking. I guess it is really important for all kinds of things your body needs to do. You have to constantly take it as your body doesn't store it, I believe.

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on January 26, 2012
at 04:44 PM

Check out Dr. Hauschka's website and look up acne info. They advise staying away from drying things, like witch hazel even, and an oil moisturizer for acne prone skin. http://drhauschka.com/ Their products are all organic and made from sustainable/responsibly sourced resources. They don't recommend a night moisturizer or exfoliating (citing that the skin should produce its own sebum at night and that skin naturally exfoliates), but I really need it to keep away the dryness that leads to some break outs (from dead skin), and I use NOW Products Cocoa Butter/Jojoba at night and it keeps my skin clear. I use the Hauschka products for the day, super clean, and you could practically eat them.

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on January 26, 2012
at 01:08 PM

Besides the Thyroid and Liver connections, I would also target the health of the gut with Super Enzymes before each meal and good probiotics early morning and before sleep. Acne is strongly related to gut health.

Also, I would try this multivitamin to replace and add to your current regimen as it has good forms and quantities of almost all vitamins, so you can drop zinc, vit C, vit B, A etc:

http://www.amazon.com/Pure-Encapsulations-Nutrient-950-Vitamin/dp/B0017O5N3W/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1KA9Q35ROE7IE&colid=177YCHCZIPRYE

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on January 25, 2012
at 08:59 PM

You didn't mention if you were male or female.

If you are female, have you tried taking a different (or starting) birth control pill? I had terrible cyst acne for YEARS that wasn't helped by diet or medicine..Until one smart ob/gyn thought to switch my pill (it might be different for you, but I now take levlin). And my skin is perfect.

Secondly, I noticed that eating certain foods helps me get rid of acne. I would eat a couple handfuls of cashews and half a cantelope per day. You get sick of them quickly, but for me it definitely helped my cyst acne.

I also second the above comments about your liver (it is NOT normal for your skin to turn orange unless you eat 20 sweet potatoes in one sitting). Tell your doc, and if he blows you off, find another doctor! You NEED a healthy liver! And if all is well in the liver department, definitely try the elimination diet mentioned above.

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on January 26, 2012
at 01:04 AM

@Efaitch, totally understand this response, but BC choices are individual and personal. I'm not getting the sense that acne was the only reason for the pills. I just get a little tired of a knee-jerk, natural-is-always-better response to hormonal BC.

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on January 25, 2012
at 09:41 PM

Wow! I'd be staying away from BCPs for many reasons... I would be looking at *why* my hormones were out of whack rather than going on a pill to put it right...

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on January 27, 2012
at 03:15 PM

I am female and would like to avoid birth control, as I have stable, bearable periods and don't want to mess with them, as well as a family history of breast cancer that I don't want to risk. Thank you for the suggestion, though.

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on January 25, 2012
at 08:13 PM

i used to take D3 also, now i just get into the sun winter or summer sun at every chance i get. my skin is so much better now.

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