I hate to ask another acne question, but I'm at the end of my rope! So I have what one would think is hormonal adult acne- I'm 24, have had moderate (to severe?) acne on my jawline and chin for...I can't even remember how long. About 9 months. I'm fairly certain that going Paleo 7 months ago worsened it.
I went off birth control about that same time, and got an IUD instead, but really my body ought to have adjusted by now, this is ridiculous. And I just went and got my hormones tested, and I'm apparently ship-shape.
Background: I have Hashimoto's, but its pretty under control- am on no medications, am quite closely adherent to the autoimmune version of Paleo- some fruit, very few nuts, some chocolate. No egg whites and almost no nightshades. Vitamin A and Omega-3 supplements make no difference, nor does vitamin D, B vitamins- a couple other things, supplement-wise, I've tried but have not found them effective after a couple of days and have quickly stopped, such as coconut oil, maca, evening primrose oil, jojoba oil, and liver support-thingies. My sleep and stress are fine, as is, surely, my Omega 3/6 ratio. Probiotics, even really good ones, and fermented foods have been tried.
I got nothin'. I presently take a multimineral with boron, vitamin D, vitamin C, and a probiotic. Sometimes K2. I just cannot imagine what's wrong with me! Thanks for any and all help!
UPDATE: So, my acne is almost entirely gone- I'm not tooootally sure why, but it seems to be for embarrassingly simple/mostly conventional reasons. I'm eating VLC, sleeping more than I ever have in my life (at least 8 hours on the reg), and washing my face more. I had been not washing it much in the name of Paleo/naturalism, and indeed could not tell that it had gotten any worse or better since I stopped washing it, but nonetheless since I started washing it twice a day its gotten significantly better.
I thought, maybe whatever was causing my acne healed itself, and now that I began washing my face again, it finally revealed the healing-ness. I still have a couple of imperfections, but nothing major.
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on June 10, 2012
at 03:12 PM
All acne is hormonal.
IUDs can cause issues as well. It's going to take more than a few months to completely fix health issues that took YEARS to develop. Do you eat liver regularly? How much fat are you consuming? Have you taken a highly bioavailable form of zinc (picolinate or methionine-bound zinc?) Do you avoid dairy? Dairy has pretty much been shown to cause acne in many people - even "good" dairy.
on September 07, 2013
at 12:44 AM
It can take quite a while for a body to readjust after BC pills. I've read accounts for it taking more than a year.
All acne is hormonal to a degree. Acne-prone skin is far more sensitive to androgen hormones. Even in what's considered normal levels they cause excess sebum production, skin cell growth and overactivation of the immune system in the skin. Excessive sebum is prone to oxidation that then triggers the acne formation process.
So far there's nothing we can do to 'cure' the genetic component of acne. But you can mititgate the damage with topical 5-alpha reductase inhibitors. Green tea happens to be one. Google can tell you also others.
Diet has nothing to do to that component of acne. While diet helps in reducing hormones and systemic inflammation it's not enough for some people. They need to treat acne topically also.
What are you doing topically?
In your case Hajimoto's can make it harder to get clear. It's possible it inflammation and depleted antioxidant reserves. Have you had your inflammation levels checked?
on June 11, 2012
at 02:04 AM
Hi Celine- I have struggled with mild acne for years now- it is the kind where it isn't out of control but there is never a time that I don't have a zit on my face and they all leave red marks that last for ages.
I tried EVERYTHING I could think of aside from prescriptions-And I FINALLY found a routine that has literally transformed my skin- I wash my face twice a day using Clarisonic's Refreshing Gel Cleanser and use the Mia Face Brush http://www.clarisonic.com/?gclid=COXN48aKxbACFQ5rhwodmxlvng After cleansing I use Bare Escentuals Glow Pads and Mychelle pumpkin renew cream. My skin literally glows now and I haven't broken out in two months straight, not once, for the first time in years!
This would be an expensive routine to get started, but all I know is I've tried every face mask, every cleanser, every zit cream (organic and chemical), supplements, total body cleanses, no-sugar, gluten-free, dairy-free (paleo) with pretty much NO changes in my skin. Everyone is different but the Clarisonic Mia along with the purifying face wash has completely changed my skin. I look in the mirror and don't recognize myself! So it may work for you...Also, I think taking fish oil, turmeric, EPO, probiotics, and ginger are always helpful since they are anti-inflammatory and nourish the skin, I still take those all daily.
on June 11, 2012
at 01:26 AM
My copper IUD triggered acne in me when I had never had it before. I fought it out for over two years, and then just couldn't take it anymore and had it removed. (other reasons on top of the acne. It added 4 extra days to my period, I had cramps when I had never had them before, etc. etc.)
Dairy now causes my occasional breakout when I do indulge in something that contains it, but otherwise i'm pretty blemish free. I am currently on hormonal BC, but I am getting my tubes tied this coming friday, so we will see how being off the BC affects my skin.
on June 11, 2012
at 12:58 AM
This Question and answer from March might be helpful to you Celine!:
What Tests for acne, candida, and other issues? - PaleoHacks.com http://paleohacks.com/questions/106734/what-tests-for-acne-candida-and-other-issues#ixzz1xRS0bZfm Hello, i am a biochemist @ Fordham University in NYC and would like to respond to you're question.
--Hidden deep within Casanova's 16 volumes of memoirs is a short but powerful story. A girl of a well established family of the court needed help clearing her cystic acne. Casanova offers her incredibly clairvoyant advice which I have transposed into a simple acronym to help folks remember--BAD.
D- vitamin D and no Dairy
(there is more to the answer)
on June 10, 2012
at 06:16 PM
Do you consume any dairy? That was culprit for me. I struggled with acne since I was a teenager and it's recently gotten worse due to a lot of stress I'm under. Also look into the kind of make up you're wearing. Mine was making my face breakout so I switched to Bare Essentials which only sits on your skin, doesn't clog your pores. I saw major improvements in that. My face will break out when my N 3: N 6 is off (like consuming too many eggs, chicken, fruits or oils without eating enough grass fed meat to balance it out) and my face is notorious for breaking out when it's that time of the month. Keep your towels and pillow cases clean and keep your chin up. It did take a while for my face to see the kind of improvement it did.
on June 10, 2012
at 05:16 PM
My acne greatly improved with diet and also when I started a high dose antoxidant therapy protocol for my Hashimotos. At the root of both of these issues (Hashi's and acne) is oxidative stress. What worked for me was a combination of antioxidants in what is considered by many-"high" doses including: Uquinol (NOW Foods, 200mg caps); R-Lipoic Acid (Geronova Research is the best for R-La); EGCG; Lycopene; and a combination of spices by Oregon Wild Harvest (Cloves, Cinnamon, Turmeric); and Astaxanthin.
I am very curious about your Hashi's and that its "pretty under control". How do you know that? Do you get your Tpo tested often, or do you know by your symptoms? What is your Tpo level? I was able to get mine down from 345 into the "negative" range (<35) but diet alone didnt do it for me. Took a lot of supplements in addition to healing my leaky gut and cleaning up my diet.
Also, does sun help it? I personally would be in the sun a bit each day if possible and without sunscreen. Good luck to you.