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If acne is caused by diet then why don't people who eat poorly have bad skin?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created May 23, 2013 at 10:57 AM

I just don't understand it! I mean these people are becoming the minority. But it really seems unfair. I mean if your skin needs omega 3s and they are getting all omega 6, what gives? How come most of us are suffering while these lucky buggers have clear skin (regardless of other health conditions). I know the theory that they are suffering somewhere else, but I just don't understand that if your body, cells, tissues, and skin need certain building blocks to function that how they have crystal clear complexion, but no building blocks? Shouldn't their foundations be crumbling?

-Perhaps genetically they have awesome detoxifying organs and are somehow getting what they need...from the junk they eat

-perhaps their skin doesn't produce sebum like our or they are genetically superior to insulin resistance which would cause more sebum

-maybe they have an awesome gut flora system passed down from generation to generation

just wanna understand it. AND I know acne is not normal! Those Kitavin islanders didn't get it until a western diet was introduced. So, even if they had superb gut flora, their skin couldn't handle it. And i feel like it's not lack of gut flora that is the cause of acne, but poor diet that leads to lack of gut flora that leads to acne, because people do take probiotics and clear up, where it does nothing for some.

Any thoughts? Ideas?

3849a20fe5bd0d5afa7a5a688c49ff12

on May 23, 2013
at 01:38 PM

Wow! You and everyone else is so right! It's partly genetic, but we can fix it with diet. YAY!

2edfcc5c8044bbb4f22ba6ea4289f592

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on May 23, 2013
at 12:55 PM

Truth. My buddy is perpetually 215lbs with veins on his quads and he lifts maybe once a week. All he does is sleep, drink, and eat junk food. I've fought for 2 years to go from 225 and 30% to 180 and 12% and if I look at a bagel I start getting fat. You've got to look past other people and find what works for you.

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on May 23, 2013
at 11:44 AM

"In truth, you are luckier if your body has a violent reaction" I've said something similar in regards to being gluten intolerant, it's a type of perfection. Your body knows exactly what it doesn't want, it's those people who eat it, but see no obvious signs of ongoing damage that I really feel for. If our bodies worked this way with all foods, well, I guess none of us would be here on Phacks? Truth.

3849a20fe5bd0d5afa7a5a688c49ff12

on May 23, 2013
at 11:26 AM

Very very true!!!! Not that I wish acne on anyone...But it would make me feel better if that was the case for everyone...

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on May 23, 2013
at 11:33 AM

When you eat better, you will have better skin then you would otherwise. That's as far as it goes.

I could work out every day and not be as muscular as many people who do nothing. I can eat 100% paleo and never be 10% body fat. Some people get MS, cancer, heart disease even while taking good care of themselves, and many people stay healthy while not. Some people catch the breaks, and others don't. That's life. You can't focus on other people's acne, or anything else about them. Just figure out what works best for you.

2edfcc5c8044bbb4f22ba6ea4289f592

(1398)

on May 23, 2013
at 12:55 PM

Truth. My buddy is perpetually 215lbs with veins on his quads and he lifts maybe once a week. All he does is sleep, drink, and eat junk food. I've fought for 2 years to go from 225 and 30% to 180 and 12% and if I look at a bagel I start getting fat. You've got to look past other people and find what works for you.

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on May 23, 2013
at 11:38 AM

In regards to the Kitavans, that is the correct way to think of it : their bodies were accustomed to eating HEALTHY, and when they introduced a western diet it was such a profound disruption that there were consequences.

Many have posited (Taubes, Shanahan, etc) that the closer we are genetically to a hunter-gatherer diet, the WORSE we react to SAD. For me (as a direct Native American descendant) I am only 150ish years removed from eating a hunter-gatherer diet. My genes have almost no adaptation to white flour and sugar. My husband (who is genetically Dutch) has 1000s of years of adaptation. That's not to say that it doesn't effect him, but it's more subtle. My body has a violent reaction.

In truth, you are luckier if your body has a violent reaction. Then there's no gray area, right? :) My body knows exactly what it wants, and tell me in no uncertain terms!

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on May 23, 2013
at 11:44 AM

"In truth, you are luckier if your body has a violent reaction" I've said something similar in regards to being gluten intolerant, it's a type of perfection. Your body knows exactly what it doesn't want, it's those people who eat it, but see no obvious signs of ongoing damage that I really feel for. If our bodies worked this way with all foods, well, I guess none of us would be here on Phacks? Truth.

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on May 23, 2013
at 11:38 AM

It's easy to hide bad skin (yay clothes.) As a guy, you would occasionally see some spots on my face, but it was never too crazy. (Although, I did take a round of Accutane as a teenager.. I suppose you could just take drugs.) My shoulders / neck / back / arms / legs were pretty acne prone, though.

If you just saw me on a good day, I'd be a skinny guy carrying a little bit of muscle, with zero acne on my face, eating Mc Donalds all day. If this was a girl with makeup on, you would get the impression that you could eat shit all day look fine.

But now that I'm eating better, it's night and day different. Down to the individual skin cells are of a better texture and sit flat on my muscle. It takes a minute to figure what works for you though.

I say a lot of what you're talking about is a lucky adaptation and drugs / chemicals / make up / microderm, etc.

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on May 23, 2013
at 11:40 AM

It's a mixture of genetics and diet. Another example is eczema, as I have eczema regardless of diet but eating certain foods can make it worse. Others don't get eczema regardless of what they eat because they don't suffer from the genetic defect. Different eczema sufferers would have different food allergies/intolerances that trigger it.

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76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

on May 23, 2013
at 11:05 AM

If you were to look at my face while I ate SAD, my skin looked just as healthy as it does now...BUT???if I took off my shirt and you were to look at my back? It looked like someone had taken a cheese grater to my back, and if that wasn???t enough, those deep DEEP welt/ pimples that if you do manage to destroy them, it leaves my skin damaged, which is where I am today, my back today looks like I had had a 2nd degree burn!

Sometimes, it???s not about what you can see???

For what it???s worth.

Truth.

3849a20fe5bd0d5afa7a5a688c49ff12

on May 23, 2013
at 11:26 AM

Very very true!!!! Not that I wish acne on anyone...But it would make me feel better if that was the case for everyone...

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on May 23, 2013
at 12:22 PM

Nothing is caused by diet alone. It's caused by the way your body reacts to the diet, which is different for everyone. Some people react to O6 PUFA/wheat/whatever by developing acne; others react to it with gut symptoms; others get fat; others might have no symptoms at all.

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2edfcc5c8044bbb4f22ba6ea4289f592

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on May 23, 2013
at 01:02 PM

Kind of beating a dead horse at this point, but I might as well add my 2 cents. There is a tremendous amount of genetic variability at play here. Just like people have said above, different people can have different reactions to exactly the same stimulus. I know virtually nothing about acne and skin conditions compared to my knowledge of nutritional biochemistry, but the same concepts are at play. Different stimuli produce different results in a different people. It's like how magnesium can have and excitatory effect in some people, but in the majority it has a calming effect. In a probability distribution there are 2 tails: 1 end will always display the phenotype (acne), 1 end will never display it, and the majority in the middle will sometimes display it depending on the environment. You might just be part of that unlikely spectrum who are very prone to acne and other skin conditions.

3849a20fe5bd0d5afa7a5a688c49ff12

on May 23, 2013
at 01:38 PM

Wow! You and everyone else is so right! It's partly genetic, but we can fix it with diet. YAY!

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on May 23, 2013
at 09:26 PM

i think sometimes leaky gut and gut dysbiosis could have something to do with it too. If your gut bacteria get used to something and you change suddenly from that, you can have skin reactions, but also stress, different levels of inflammation. I mean, even the world's oldest woman, Jeanne Calment, lived to be 122 years old and she was a smoker.

Also, when you change your diet from SAD to paleo, maybe you're eating a lot more of something which now causes your skin/acne to be a lot worse. For me, eating more nuts, chicken, sardines, anchovies and pesticides from non-organic lettuce, tomatoes, green beans, etc. made my skin worse, way worse than if I had just stuck to rice that I tended to eat with my meals.

Chicken, sardines, anchovies, lettuce, etc. are all allowed on Paleo, and I ate a lot because I was dumb and thought paleo meant low carb and only eating starches for when you were super active, like crossfit active.

So you have to reevaluate - just because something is "paleo" doesn't mean your body likes it, and also maybe you eat more of foods your body reacts to because you're nutritionally deprived of say, glucose, iodine, or some mineral it's perhaps easier to get on SAD.

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on May 24, 2013
at 02:09 AM

I think it's mainly based on genetics.

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on May 23, 2013
at 10:55 PM

Whats good for one person isnt good for another. Get your genes tested at 23andme to see what is the best diet for you.

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on May 23, 2013
at 10:54 PM

Whats good for one person isnt good for another. Get your genes tested at 23andme to see what is the best diet for you.

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