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Butter and acne

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 10, 2011 at 3:25 PM

Anyone else experience this? I'm not exactly sure if it's the butter that caused it but I've been dairy-free for a few years, except post WOD whey (which never triggered much in forms of pimples).

I introduced Kerrygold into my diet a few weeks ago. I was eating a lot of it, but this week I've had a pretty good acne recurrence. Haven't had anything like this in a very long time. Have now eliminated butter again for the time being. Ghee doesn't cause a reaction from as far as I can tell.

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:26 PM

I'm not sure about that, actually. I haven't yet had the time to separate my reaction to dairy and nightshades, either. Both have been present in my diet at the same time, just by coincidence, when I have included them since I began eating Paleo almost a year ago. I've had 2 white potatoes since then, but a couple to a few dozen tomatoes, so I can't say what effects the potatoes have. So I've read, the offending lectins are almost exclusively in the potato skin, so I skinned both of them. Fried in tallow, they're worth the risk. Living on the edge is eating fried potatoes.

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on April 11, 2011
at 12:14 PM

You react equally as harsh to tomatoes as you do to for instance white potatoes ?

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on April 11, 2011
at 11:57 AM

Yes, eggs are decent - I usually use coconut milk, some coconut oil, blueberries and ice cubes, and sometimes a pinch of sea salt. I blend this up and then stir in the raw eggs at the end (two or three). If you're not keen on drinking the eggs after they've only been slightly mixed in then perhaps add them for the final few pulses of your blender.

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on April 10, 2011
at 06:13 PM

Eggs. You could make a shake from coconut milk, fresh eggs, berrys and icecubes...

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on April 10, 2011
at 04:02 PM

Lactose/casein ?

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Cf626d3fba66c18297b3f1116a920e58

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:28 AM

Dairy is a bit iffy for me. Casein, a water-soluble dairy protein, is found in butter (although it is found to a greater extent in milk). This protein is structurally similar to gluten which leads to all manner of nasty inflammatory symptoms -- such as acne.

When I consume a lot of dairy, I break out a bit.

When I consume a lot of gluten, I break out a lot.

Some people are unusually sensitive to one or the other, but most -- especially Europeans -- are more sensitive to gluten. My n=1 experience is that if I want to avoid acne altogether, I have to limit dairy AND nightshades. You may want to take those into account, too. The lectins present in them can cause inflammation, among other effects.

Conventional vs. grassfed makes no difference with respect to casein, either. Both contain casein, as it is a totally normal protein found in dairy.

Ghee gets rid of most of the nonfat components of butter, so most of the casein is gone. This is the best option for anyone who wants to cook with "butter" but finds that they're sensitive to dairy.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on April 11, 2011
at 12:14 PM

You react equally as harsh to tomatoes as you do to for instance white potatoes ?

Cf626d3fba66c18297b3f1116a920e58

(3417)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:26 PM

I'm not sure about that, actually. I haven't yet had the time to separate my reaction to dairy and nightshades, either. Both have been present in my diet at the same time, just by coincidence, when I have included them since I began eating Paleo almost a year ago. I've had 2 white potatoes since then, but a couple to a few dozen tomatoes, so I can't say what effects the potatoes have. So I've read, the offending lectins are almost exclusively in the potato skin, so I skinned both of them. Fried in tallow, they're worth the risk. Living on the edge is eating fried potatoes.

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on April 10, 2011
at 06:07 PM

Ever since I cut out the whey after workouts, I have just been eating actual food after workouts. I go home and eat some meat. If I am on the go, I bring along some homemade jerky.

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on April 10, 2011
at 04:37 PM

Well, you did a good thing by going "all out" to see if you react negatively. I think you already know the answer--the question is whether or not it is the pasteurization (took a quick look at their website and couldn't find whether or not it is pasteurized). that has confabulated the few proteins remaining, causing the reaction, or if it is cow's milk in general that your body is attempting to detoxify. Or, is it all non-human milk (human breastmilk technically has casein, but a different type... Bridget--whey is great for muscle growth. however, the extra growth hormone and casein does not benefit long term health--unfortunately I haven't found a great source of "drinkable" protein as of yet. I use Metagenic's Whey protein because their product tests for less than 1 part of casein per 20,000 parts. Most other products don't give a guarantee...and we know that the major problem with diary is the type of casein

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on April 10, 2011
at 04:19 PM

Since I cut dairy and whey protein out of my life, my acne totally cleared up.

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on April 20, 2014
at 04:48 AM

Yes, I get pimples when I eat butter. I found out once I attended a retreat with a very strict diet. My acne cleared up, but when I once in a while had butter a couple of new pimples formed around my mouth and chin. For some reason this does not seem to happen when I drink milk. Go figure.

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on April 11, 2011
at 11:52 AM

Butter doesn't affect my lactose intolerance, unless in large quantities.

However, since removing butter for the past couple weeks, I have noticed that my face has cleared even more. So I'm figuring it (even in small quantities) was affecting breakouts.

I'll strictly be using ghee from here on out!

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on April 10, 2011
at 11:27 PM

In my experience, any dairy causes acne. The threshold is about 2 grams.

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on April 10, 2011
at 07:03 PM

I've just had the same problem. AFter a month of dairy free, I reintroduced butter and cream, and my face seriously exploded. I really like cream, so it sucks. I will try to cut on butter only and see if it helps...

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on April 10, 2011
at 04:57 PM

Only conventional dairy will give me acne. Grassfed is fine though.

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on April 10, 2011
at 04:32 PM

I have noticed the same thing. However I really love my whey protein. What can replace the whey?

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on April 10, 2011
at 06:13 PM

Eggs. You could make a shake from coconut milk, fresh eggs, berrys and icecubes...

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on April 11, 2011
at 11:57 AM

Yes, eggs are decent - I usually use coconut milk, some coconut oil, blueberries and ice cubes, and sometimes a pinch of sea salt. I blend this up and then stir in the raw eggs at the end (two or three). If you're not keen on drinking the eggs after they've only been slightly mixed in then perhaps add them for the final few pulses of your blender.

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on April 10, 2011
at 04:06 PM

I sometimes experience this whenever I eat cheese.

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