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Anyone taken high doses of vitamin A for acne?

Commented on November 02, 2015
Created June 13, 2012 at 11:44 PM

I've read in numerous places that people have success with high doses of vitamin A keeping their skin clear. I've also read in a lot of places that it's dangerous, but have never read of any cases where people actually suffered problems due to toxicity.

Has anyone taken high doses (i.e. 50k or 100k iu per day) over a long period?

I'm curious to hear peoples thoughts or experiences on 1) if you've tried it and how it did/didn't work and 2) how risky it really is.

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on November 02, 2015
at 09:10 PM

DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING THIS. It was a horrible mistake I made in college trying in a desperate attempt to get rid of acne forever. I took the less risky approach with Vitamin A instead of Accutane. I was taking on average 40-50k IU daily. The initial results were great my skin stopped filling up with sebum and my skin cleared up after only two weeks. I made sure I cycled as well with 4 days on and 1 day off. However after 1.5 months I started having terrible reactions. My skin started to sweat profusely in the sun and in unnatural lighted areas. The acne was worse than ever and it was a very greasy unpleasant feeling. I had to leave classes many times due to these issues.  It took 1 month for these reactions to subside after stopping cold turkey for one month. Now I am on a whole foods organic diet in which I consume nutrient dense foods and 90% is plant based and the rest from animal products. My staples of nutrient dense foods include animal organs, eggs, clams, oysters, salmon, kale, broccoli, sweet potatoes, blue berries, avocadoes, and spirulina. The main sources of vitamin A come from Cod liver oil, sweet potatoes, and organ meats. As a result, my skin is smooth, acne free, smaller pore size, less sweeting, and many compliments.

 

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on November 02, 2015
at 09:10 PM

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on June 14, 2012
at 11:23 PM

Thanks...I've been dairy free for around 3 years now because it definitely triggers cystic acne for me. It's one of my triggers, but unfortunately not the only trigger.

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on June 14, 2012
at 11:23 PM

I've been experimenting with between 20k and 40k a day. At 40k I actually notice the side effects, and both times I went that high I experienced numbness in my legs/feet which is not something I EVER experience so I'm pretty sure it's from too much Vit A. 30k for a week has slowed down breakouts, but I also paired that with 6k vit D /K2 so I'm not sure which exactly is having the biggest impact or if maybe they are working together.

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on June 14, 2012
at 06:06 PM

I've be taking ~20k iu and have found it very effective, took months to fully notice the results though.

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on June 14, 2012
at 05:54 PM

It is pricey. I would recommend the gel, not the capsules since the capsules are even more expensive per serving. I think a jar lasted me about 2-2.5 months? I was only taking 1/2 tsp a day (and not always consistently at that). I just bought it through the Green Pasture website. It was a leap of faith at first, but after I saw such changes in my skin, I will keep it up. It is cheaper than bi-monthly facials and works much better for me.

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on June 14, 2012
at 05:37 PM

I'd like to comment that they've proven the drug doesn't cause suicidal thoughts. Typically people taking the drug because of the poor condition of their skin have low self esteem. Taking such a high drug that sometimes doesn't work could exacerbate feelings, but it doesn't spring up depression from nowhere.

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on June 14, 2012
at 05:44 AM

I really want to try FCLO/BO but the green pastures is so expensive...like $50 for one bottle!!! where did you get it? how long did it last you? no place sells it locally where I live so I would have to order it online.

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on June 14, 2012
at 03:40 AM

accutane worked for me when nothing else did.... That was many years ago and knowing what I know now, I would not do it again.... then again, I no longer have cystic acne (still have some small breakouts though)and my liver is perfectly healthy!

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at 03:24 AM

Sorry to hear that. It sounds as though you have a more intense case than I was dealing with.

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at 01:56 AM

What was your experience with accutane? i tried it once 4 years ago but after a week my entire body broke out with hives, so the doctor made me stop, and won't let me try it again (i even suggested a low dose).

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at 12:08 AM

Hard to search for that...if you find the link let me know!

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at 12:08 AM

I took FCLO/BO for as long as the bottle lasted, 1/2 tsp in the morning and night, and I too noticed an improvement (especially in healing time) but it never completely stopped me from breaking out. It's worth taking for the improvements I've seen, but I'm still searching for something that stops the breakouts completely.

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93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on June 14, 2012
at 05:35 PM

My mom is a dermatologist and yes it definitely works. If you have ever heard of the drug Accutane, that is all it is- high doses of vitamin A. The side effects could be large with this drug but mostly because the doses were like 5x what you are suggesting to take. Either way I take cod liver oil and eat lots of sweet potatoes and I don't break out as badly as I used to in a long time!

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on June 14, 2012
at 12:02 AM

This doesn't exactly answer your question because 1) I didn't take HIGH dose vitamin A and 2) I really can't speak to how risky it is. (Though I wouldn't do it myself, personally. I just feel like mega-dosing always comes with a downside.)

That said, I did see a dramatic improvement in the clarity and texture of my skin since taking a dose of fermented cod liver oil/butter oil blend. Nothing huge, just 1/2 tsp a day. My acne wasn't extreme (though it was pretty bad when I was younger), but I had breakouts, lots of redness, and a rough texture that never seemed to go away now matter how much (or how little) I exfoliated. It took about a month to see a difference, but when I did it was remarkable and it hasn't gone away, even when I have stopped the FCLO/BO for weeks at a time because I ran out or something.

I have seen similar improvements with topical retinols, but those have always had a strange hook effect with me--they will help for awhile (a month or two) and then my skin seems to adapt to them and go back to its original state. I have not yet experienced this with the FCLO/BO and it has been about 6-7 months.

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on June 14, 2012
at 05:44 AM

I really want to try FCLO/BO but the green pastures is so expensive...like $50 for one bottle!!! where did you get it? how long did it last you? no place sells it locally where I live so I would have to order it online.

A2e73b869061fc20067e4ef8f26f83f0

(140)

on June 14, 2012
at 05:54 PM

It is pricey. I would recommend the gel, not the capsules since the capsules are even more expensive per serving. I think a jar lasted me about 2-2.5 months? I was only taking 1/2 tsp a day (and not always consistently at that). I just bought it through the Green Pasture website. It was a leap of faith at first, but after I saw such changes in my skin, I will keep it up. It is cheaper than bi-monthly facials and works much better for me.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 14, 2012
at 12:08 AM

I took FCLO/BO for as long as the bottle lasted, 1/2 tsp in the morning and night, and I too noticed an improvement (especially in healing time) but it never completely stopped me from breaking out. It's worth taking for the improvements I've seen, but I'm still searching for something that stops the breakouts completely.

A2e73b869061fc20067e4ef8f26f83f0

(140)

on June 14, 2012
at 03:24 AM

Sorry to hear that. It sounds as though you have a more intense case than I was dealing with.

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on March 05, 2013
at 03:14 AM

did the accutane thing to get rid of cystic acne on the face. it worked perfectly. a random pimple will surface every few months or so but never a cystic one. anyone who has had cystic acne knows it sucks. while on accutane, i wasnt allowed to take any extra supplements and was blood tested every month. i followed the orders strictly and for 6 months did not supplement with anything. my brother continued taking protein powders and a few other supplements and he still has issues with acne because of it. i didnt experience any side effects except that my skin was drier than normal to the point i had to lotion my hands a few times. my lips werent horribly chapped but did dry out more frequently. the weirdest side effect was the loss of a cuticle on my finger nails which resulted in NEVER HAVING A HANGNAIL! that was nice. when i took accutane, i was warned about suicidal thoughts but i figured those stemmed from people who were already having those thoughts due to the acne and then having extreme skin drying side effects. definitely do it at your own risk and understand that the safest way to do it would be through a doctor so your blood and liver can be monitored.

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on November 02, 2015
at 04:23 PM

Having been on accutane, it has potential to affect your hormones, and in some people they stay out of whack, resulting in Modswings, erectile dysfunction, sore joints, bac soreness etc... Sure you might feel sad on it, but thrsuicies are are more due to the hopelessness of getting over long term sides.

some people I know have had luck with Vit a(100,000iu) + Vit D(30,000iu) supplementation, in case any of you long term sides people find yourself here, and I hypothesis that it's due to the way your body processes Vit a.... Anyways, 90% of people thank accutane, if you play sport be careful though

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on March 05, 2013
at 03:13 AM

500,000 IU Per Day

Don't try this at home!

Abstract

Oral vitamin A (retinol) is generally not considered useful in the treatment of acne vulgaris. We conducted a study which showed that retinol was indeed ineffective at the usual doses of 50,000 to 100,000 IU daily. Retinol was highly efficacious in doses of 300,000 units for women and 400,000 to 500,000 units for men, toxicity was slight and limited mainly to skin (xerosis) and mucous membranes (cheilitis). The danger of hypervitaminosis A in this dosage range has been exaggerated. Retinol is a valuable drug for treating stubborn, severely inflammatory acne vulgaris. It is administered until the disease is brought under control, usually within three to four months. Then the dosage is progressively reduced relying on conventional drugs to keep the disease in abeyance.

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on March 05, 2013
at 02:55 AM

Lol hahahaha vitamin A is just wah wah!!!

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on June 14, 2012
at 04:45 AM

Try cutting out dairy. I've personally seen that end acne and I've read it in numerous places too. Plus it's much simpler and less risky than pounding a bunch of vitamins!

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 14, 2012
at 11:23 PM

Thanks...I've been dairy free for around 3 years now because it definitely triggers cystic acne for me. It's one of my triggers, but unfortunately not the only trigger.

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on June 14, 2012
at 01:35 AM

although i did not take the high doses of straight vitamin A, i have been on Accutane which i believe is a derivative of very high doses of Vitamin A so works on the same principle. i had to be closely monitored by a physician and blood/liver enzyme tests once a month. Being female of child bearing years i had to go on the pill (boooo) as high doses of vitamin A/Accutane is known to have teratogenous effects on the fetus. Very scary. Drug also linked to suicidal thoughts/depression, etc; unsure if vitamin A would effect you the same way. Being fat soluble vitamin it will be stored in your tissue a while.....as was the acccutane. it was very effective for acne however other undesireable side effects. I wouldn't do it on your own.....the vitamin A. goodluck!

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 14, 2012
at 03:40 AM

accutane worked for me when nothing else did.... That was many years ago and knowing what I know now, I would not do it again.... then again, I no longer have cystic acne (still have some small breakouts though)and my liver is perfectly healthy!

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on June 14, 2012
at 05:37 PM

I'd like to comment that they've proven the drug doesn't cause suicidal thoughts. Typically people taking the drug because of the poor condition of their skin have low self esteem. Taking such a high drug that sometimes doesn't work could exacerbate feelings, but it doesn't spring up depression from nowhere.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 14, 2012
at 01:56 AM

What was your experience with accutane? i tried it once 4 years ago but after a week my entire body broke out with hives, so the doctor made me stop, and won't let me try it again (i even suggested a low dose).

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on June 14, 2012
at 12:36 AM

Hm , i'm not a proffesional of what , but here's my take on your question .I feel that nutrients or whatever from whole foods should be enough and there is not really a need to take supplements(i maybe wrong and maybe you meant that you take high dosages of vitamin A from whole foods.) . Our body has many ways to remove toxic or substance deemed harmful to us in many ways such as ,our standard excretion of waste or whatsoever , it can also come in the form of a breakout , basically i feel that if you had a sound diet and healthy lifestyle ( frequent exercise and adequate sleep ) breakouts will eventually stop . *NOTE * i am just giving my opinions and i'm not trying to prove anything , this is just what i feel and SKIP OILY AND DEEP FRIED FOODS :)

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on June 14, 2012
at 12:01 AM

someone on acne.org took sth like 300 000 IU daily, he might have posted some blood tests....

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on June 14, 2012
at 12:08 AM

Hard to search for that...if you find the link let me know!

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