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Anyone figured out how to eat dairy and NOT have it cause acne?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created June 17, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Any amount of dairy causes cystic acne for me pretty much the next morning. In some cases it's just unavoidable when eating out so I'm wondering if there is a way to handle some dairy and block the break outs.

Has anyone who gets acne from dairy figured out away to prevent or minimize the breakouts? Either increasing certain supplements, or maybe something like lactose pills?

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on July 03, 2012
at 08:12 AM

Retinol probably works better.

Ffc3a5f25a2f8a90bbab93872619675b

(50)

on June 20, 2012
at 06:02 PM

"Do or do not. There is no try." Jedi Yoda Learn to be an advocate for yourself. People have to know that they can't just plop gluten in front of someone who is intolerant/celiac. They won't learn unless you teach them and sometimes that means raising a little he11. Maybe the caterers can't find you anything else to eat, but you can politely help them understand that now you will go hungry-- they won't make that mistake again. Sadly, many celiacs can't eat out (see above). You might look into that.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 19, 2012
at 06:32 PM

Just for the record.... I did not down vote it. Derm MDs can be helpful but Shawn has been there and done that (me too) and antibiotics to treat acne is a short term bandage and bad for your gut.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 19, 2012
at 06:30 PM

Honesty doesn't warrant brutality. Shawn please - address your leaky gut then you can likely handle milk and gluten IF you want.... Will take some time and money to do it in my experience.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 19, 2012
at 03:01 PM

Whoaaaa. Im unclear why Noah is yelling at you here..? Shawn just heal your gut. Seriously. You have leaky gut. You may in fact be able to handle dairy once you gut is healed. Please talk to you ND about l.g. and heal it.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 18, 2012
at 11:16 PM

I appreciate the response - and I agree with you in general...if you're allergic to it DON'T eat it. There are however situations (i.e. unintentional glutening) where having a pill in your back pocket is very helpful to reduce the reaction, even if it's not healthy long term.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on June 18, 2012
at 07:14 PM

+1 Brutal honesty is sometimes the best policy.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on June 18, 2012
at 07:10 PM

Eat a high fat, fairly high protein meal before going to events like that. Honestly, events that have NO options are pretty rare these days. But if you are where everything has dairy, and even small amounts of butter set you off, then don't eat the dairy. Better to IF. Magic pills aren't.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

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on June 18, 2012
at 05:43 PM

The lactose is only part of the issue and a small one at that. There's still the DHT.

07243c7700483a67386049f7b67d90a4

on June 18, 2012
at 05:15 PM

High dose halibut liver oil and lugols iodine has stopped me breaking out from pretty much anything.

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

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on June 18, 2012
at 03:15 PM

My acupuncturist said that people with this response to dairy should absolutely not eat dairy. I know that isn't what anyone wants to hear (oh, how I would love to be able to freely slather butter on things) but it makes sense to me.

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

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on June 18, 2012
at 03:13 PM

Interesting, I never considered that.

44739854bd06eb5c32af5d33aa866864

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on June 18, 2012
at 01:26 PM

Like SarahH mentioned, don't expect to eat at any wedding/gathering/etc. and always eat before... This has saved me many times. Otherwise you could just look at it as a fasting opportunity and eat later.

6e42d9a1439df96de337c0caa481a00a

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on June 18, 2012
at 12:15 PM

I avoid that situation entirely by entirely avoiding eating out.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 18, 2012
at 11:45 AM

I'd love to try it but don't have a good source for it.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 18, 2012
at 11:43 AM

I've tried goat milk kefir with some success but only in small amounts. If I have too much, I end up breaking out.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 18, 2012
at 11:42 AM

I do try to strictly avoid gluten. I asked the waitress to make sure my meal was gluten free, and she said the chef would make sure my meal was gluten free. I was happy until they came out and gave the wrong dish to someone else, and simply gave their dish to me, without any attention to whether or not it was my gluten free plate. I didn't eat ahead of time because my cousin (getting married) indicated they would make it gluten free for me. I guess I know better now to eat before events just in case.

Dbd1e8fad5d4b47409d84bd6610020d5

(368)

on June 18, 2012
at 03:59 AM

When I was vegan, I never was able to eat at weddings, nor did I expect to be able to do so. I've applied the same frame of mind to my paleo experiments. Mayhaps you can eat in advance or bring something to nibble on with you whenever you go out?

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

(2063)

on June 18, 2012
at 03:54 AM

I don't think this should have been downvoted. Appreciate the potential downsides to drugs like accutane, antibiotics, etc, but there is no reason to avoid consulting a dermatologist for a difficult issue like acne. Of course, it's Shawn's right to discount the suggestion, but I don't think a downvote was warranted here. Upvoted to reverse.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 18, 2012
at 01:40 AM

Yeah, even butter in small amounts causes me to break out. Fermented dairy seems to be problematic as well.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 18, 2012
at 01:17 AM

cont'd- and he was right.Point is, you can treat your l.g. & then do the test to make sure, or don't do it all all. I tested before & after bc I wanted to know & I could afford it (and am a bit OCD ;) So the diet was not paleo but rather high protein, moderate fat and low carb. In addition to the Permavite & probiotic, I took HCL with meals & a bunch of supplements: Tricylcline by Allergy Research Group, Ubiquinol (400mg 2xday) R-La by GeroNova Research (2, 2x day), Lycopene (20mg, 2x) & a rotation of 8 caps of "spices" by oregon wild harvest- cloves, cinnamon, turmeric. Got rid of acne & l.g

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 18, 2012
at 01:09 AM

Shawn to answer your Qs- I changed my diet as part of on overall G.I. renewal progam I was on. The doc. I worked with at the time, who I went to for tx of Hashimotos and other hormone issues, had all of his patients do a GI fix first. He used high doses of antioxidants in addition to a ton of veggies & said that would all be a waste if your gut was not perfectly healthy. Made sense to me. I also had a comprehensive stool test done & there was bad bacteria, along with not enough good bacteria so his plan made sense. I also did a l.g. test but that was more for my own interest. He said I had it

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 17, 2012
at 10:35 PM

Shawn I did a bunch of stuff. gotta go now but I will return here later tonight and tell you. Thanks

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(19245)

on June 17, 2012
at 10:34 PM

Do you mean all types of dairy and in any quantity?

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 17, 2012
at 10:24 PM

Also what were you symptoms before and after?

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 17, 2012
at 10:21 PM

Did you do anything else aside from those supplements? For example what was your diet like?

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 17, 2012
at 10:08 PM

I hear ya Shawn. Loud and clear!! And in the end your ance issue may be worse since the antibiotics likely contributed to leaky gut and now dairy gives you acne.... Hang in. Treat your gut.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 17, 2012
at 10:04 PM

Shawn forget the test. Just treat yourself for it. I don't see how you could not have l.g. What worked for me is three months of Permavite by Allergy Research Group. I used the max dose required of three scoops per day. I also used a high quality, high dose of probiotics. VSL3 is good product (actually it may not be dairy free). I used it in conjunction with Klaire Labs probiotics. You will need a lot of probiotics to replenish all the good bacteria that has been lost from long term antibiotics. I used 2 packets of vsl3 twice a day for two weeks then less (that is 450bill x 2).

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 17, 2012
at 09:47 PM

My ND didn't test me for it, but thinks I have it considering I took antibiotics for 5 years (with minimal success) and was diagnosed with Celiac disease last year.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 17, 2012
at 09:46 PM

When I'm at an event such as a wedding, and EVERY meal option includes some form of dairy, my choices are to not eat dinner or to eat dinner with dairy in it. There are situations where it's really not that avoidable unless I want to starve.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 17, 2012
at 09:45 PM

I went to several dermatologists once a month for 6 years and tried everything from antibiotics to laser therapy to accutane. I appreciate the suggestion but dermatologists have failed to prevent my skin from breaking out.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on June 17, 2012
at 09:24 PM

I'm going to make a wild and crazy suggestion. Don't eat dairy. There is no such thing as "unavoidable". Lots of people avoid eating dairy every single day - allergies, intolerance, vegans.....

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Ffc3a5f25a2f8a90bbab93872619675b

on June 18, 2012
at 08:26 AM

If you have celiac and were on antibiotics for give years then your gut is a mess. Don't worry about dairy or anything else until you get that poor small intestine healed up. Go GAPS. Cyctic acne, in particular, is a good sign that you have a leaky gut.

I'm concerned also about your comment about being at events such as weddings where every item has dairy... Or even how you casually mentioned your celiac dx. Dude, you have celiac-- if you are properly avoiding gluten, then avoiding dairy shouldn't be that big of a thing... Like, the frosting on the cake is not your problem. But also... I'm gluten free (true wheat allergy) and find myself in those situations (such as weddings) when I can't eat anything served. So I've learned to plan around it. For example, I always have almonds on hand-- something. Or, even better, I tell people ahead of time what I can/can't eat and usually arrangements are made gladly.

First thing's first, learn how to live with the celiac. Given that celiac should be your #1 issue, things aren't adding up with you. Do your research. You can't rely on Drs to tell you how it is. You have to be proactive.

6e42d9a1439df96de337c0caa481a00a

(20)

on June 18, 2012
at 12:15 PM

I avoid that situation entirely by entirely avoiding eating out.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 18, 2012
at 11:42 AM

I do try to strictly avoid gluten. I asked the waitress to make sure my meal was gluten free, and she said the chef would make sure my meal was gluten free. I was happy until they came out and gave the wrong dish to someone else, and simply gave their dish to me, without any attention to whether or not it was my gluten free plate. I didn't eat ahead of time because my cousin (getting married) indicated they would make it gluten free for me. I guess I know better now to eat before events just in case.

Ffc3a5f25a2f8a90bbab93872619675b

(50)

on June 20, 2012
at 06:02 PM

"Do or do not. There is no try." Jedi Yoda Learn to be an advocate for yourself. People have to know that they can't just plop gluten in front of someone who is intolerant/celiac. They won't learn unless you teach them and sometimes that means raising a little he11. Maybe the caterers can't find you anything else to eat, but you can politely help them understand that now you will go hungry-- they won't make that mistake again. Sadly, many celiacs can't eat out (see above). You might look into that.

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41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on June 18, 2012
at 03:31 AM

I've noticed a difference with zinc supplements.

I don't take them daily or anything, but I've noticed if I start breaking out and I take a zinc supp, there is a huge difference in my skin within 24 hours.

Sometimes I wonder if by eating dairy I am taking in so much calcium that I am not taking in enough zinc or magnesium to balance it. But I have no proof of that... it's just something I've been tossing around in my head for a while for a few reasons.

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83d041cb9e6c6bc472ac5f2d291b4e8b

on June 17, 2012
at 09:52 PM

I'd concentrate on consuming only raw milk, not pasturized.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 18, 2012
at 11:45 AM

I'd love to try it but don't have a good source for it.

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59fa7cd87fb9d669adf21e5cf3e7ada5

on June 17, 2012
at 09:25 PM

Go to a dermatologist.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 17, 2012
at 09:45 PM

I went to several dermatologists once a month for 6 years and tried everything from antibiotics to laser therapy to accutane. I appreciate the suggestion but dermatologists have failed to prevent my skin from breaking out.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 17, 2012
at 10:08 PM

I hear ya Shawn. Loud and clear!! And in the end your ance issue may be worse since the antibiotics likely contributed to leaky gut and now dairy gives you acne.... Hang in. Treat your gut.

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

(2063)

on June 18, 2012
at 03:54 AM

I don't think this should have been downvoted. Appreciate the potential downsides to drugs like accutane, antibiotics, etc, but there is no reason to avoid consulting a dermatologist for a difficult issue like acne. Of course, it's Shawn's right to discount the suggestion, but I don't think a downvote was warranted here. Upvoted to reverse.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 19, 2012
at 06:32 PM

Just for the record.... I did not down vote it. Derm MDs can be helpful but Shawn has been there and done that (me too) and antibiotics to treat acne is a short term bandage and bad for your gut.

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B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on July 03, 2012
at 08:25 AM

You should give retinol a try. I think the reason why zinc is so popular is because of its interaction with vitamin A, which potentially looks like this :

anyone-figured-out-how-to-eat-dairy-and-not-have-it-cause-acne?

If milk causes acne it's probably due to a rise in metabolism. Some people report having no problems with raw milk, but I personally do well with UHT organic milk.

Unfortunately I don't think it's as simple as just taking some retinol. Not only do you have to find the right balance, you also need to improve your thyroid. Excess retinol can suppress thyroid function leading to depression and dry skin and other fun stuff (I've personally experienced depression from it a couple of times). I think it's best to measure your pulse and temperature after meals and in the morning.

A good retinol supplement is nutrisorb-A.

Lactase could help too, but it'd probably be more useful to treat hypothyroidism if you have it (eg. checking out your temperature) :

Bacterial overgrowth in the small intestine can be caused by hypothyroidism (Lauritano, et al., 2007), and the substances produced by these bacteria can damage the lining of the small intestine, causing the loss of lactase enzymes (Walshe, et al., 1990).

Some things can seem weird at first, so you have to keep an open mind. Drinking milk without added sugar and salt, for example, causes problems for me (mostly bloating and hives).

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9e975c86f483555ed19e59c5628488ca

(823)

on June 18, 2012
at 06:59 PM

I don't know why I'm even going to bother answering, you just poo-poo everything everyone says and frankly it sounds like you're only half assing your eating anyways and are looking for a magic blessing to eat whatever you want.

1) You're not going to die if you don't eat at a wedding, if you can't go 10 hours without eating you're not probably so cracked out on carbs that you're doing yourself real metabolic harm. Or you're addicted to dairy. If you're properly fat adapted you should be able to go a damn long time without food. You know what's going to make being fat adapted even harder? Chronic insulin spikes??? which dairy does almost as well as pure sugar.

2) YOU'RE ALLERGIC TO DAIRY??? Seriously I'm just frick'n blown away here??? You clearly have problems eating dairy??? just don't do it. There's no such thing as a dairy deficiency. The acne is just a visible symptom, if you react like that on the outside you're having other inflammatory issues.

If you have Celiac Disease??? let me spell this out here??? YOU HAVE AN AUTOIMMUNE DISEASE. Your body is getting confused and TRYING TO KILL YOU??? after gluten, dairy is probably the most dangerous thing for you to be eating. Go ahead keep pushing your luck so you can have some cheese??? and 15 years from now when you have carcinoma you can whine about how inconvenient cancer is too.

If I had an autoimmune condition I don't think I'd want to be eating something that is known to cause leaky gut and flood my body with proteins and other compounds which would exacerbate my autoimmune condition??? lead to inflammation, and immune response???

Chronic inflammation is not a good thing??? a little kefir isn't worth it. Unbelievable??? This is like someone saying "I break out into hives and have trouble breathing when I eat peanuts??? how do I eat peanuts?" YOU GODDAMN DON'T THAT'S HOW.

It's not the lactose either??? damnit, dairy is filtered cow's blood??? for baby cows??? so they will grow??? you're not a baby cow??? you're a human??? and humans aren't supposed to drink human milk (which is very different) for their entire lives either. What do you suppose flooding yourself with growth factors for the rest of your life is going to encourage? Growth??? and that's not really something you want after you've finished growing.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on June 18, 2012
at 07:14 PM

+1 Brutal honesty is sometimes the best policy.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 18, 2012
at 11:16 PM

I appreciate the response - and I agree with you in general...if you're allergic to it DON'T eat it. There are however situations (i.e. unintentional glutening) where having a pill in your back pocket is very helpful to reduce the reaction, even if it's not healthy long term.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 19, 2012
at 06:30 PM

Honesty doesn't warrant brutality. Shawn please - address your leaky gut then you can likely handle milk and gluten IF you want.... Will take some time and money to do it in my experience.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 19, 2012
at 03:01 PM

Whoaaaa. Im unclear why Noah is yelling at you here..? Shawn just heal your gut. Seriously. You have leaky gut. You may in fact be able to handle dairy once you gut is healed. Please talk to you ND about l.g. and heal it.

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3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on June 18, 2012
at 12:23 AM

Theoretically taking zinc might help because part of the reason dairy breaks people out (even raw dairy) is because it's a direct precursor to DHT.

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

(2063)

on June 18, 2012
at 03:13 PM

Interesting, I never considered that.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on July 03, 2012
at 08:12 AM

Retinol probably works better.

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4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

on June 17, 2012
at 09:26 PM

What comes to mind for me here is that you may be dealing with a leaky gut. If you want to know for sure, you can test for it.

This is what I used via my ND. http://www.gdx.net/product/10122

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 17, 2012
at 10:24 PM

Also what were you symptoms before and after?

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 18, 2012
at 01:09 AM

Shawn to answer your Qs- I changed my diet as part of on overall G.I. renewal progam I was on. The doc. I worked with at the time, who I went to for tx of Hashimotos and other hormone issues, had all of his patients do a GI fix first. He used high doses of antioxidants in addition to a ton of veggies & said that would all be a waste if your gut was not perfectly healthy. Made sense to me. I also had a comprehensive stool test done & there was bad bacteria, along with not enough good bacteria so his plan made sense. I also did a l.g. test but that was more for my own interest. He said I had it

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 17, 2012
at 10:04 PM

Shawn forget the test. Just treat yourself for it. I don't see how you could not have l.g. What worked for me is three months of Permavite by Allergy Research Group. I used the max dose required of three scoops per day. I also used a high quality, high dose of probiotics. VSL3 is good product (actually it may not be dairy free). I used it in conjunction with Klaire Labs probiotics. You will need a lot of probiotics to replenish all the good bacteria that has been lost from long term antibiotics. I used 2 packets of vsl3 twice a day for two weeks then less (that is 450bill x 2).

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 17, 2012
at 10:35 PM

Shawn I did a bunch of stuff. gotta go now but I will return here later tonight and tell you. Thanks

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 17, 2012
at 09:47 PM

My ND didn't test me for it, but thinks I have it considering I took antibiotics for 5 years (with minimal success) and was diagnosed with Celiac disease last year.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on June 17, 2012
at 10:21 PM

Did you do anything else aside from those supplements? For example what was your diet like?

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 18, 2012
at 01:17 AM

cont'd- and he was right.Point is, you can treat your l.g. & then do the test to make sure, or don't do it all all. I tested before & after bc I wanted to know & I could afford it (and am a bit OCD ;) So the diet was not paleo but rather high protein, moderate fat and low carb. In addition to the Permavite & probiotic, I took HCL with meals & a bunch of supplements: Tricylcline by Allergy Research Group, Ubiquinol (400mg 2xday) R-La by GeroNova Research (2, 2x day), Lycopene (20mg, 2x) & a rotation of 8 caps of "spices" by oregon wild harvest- cloves, cinnamon, turmeric. Got rid of acne & l.g

0
12a1845dade367654ae197e03316193c

(0)

on June 26, 2012
at 02:29 PM

Shawn, I know what your going through. I have made myself my own test subject. I get Cystic Acne when I eat any type of Dairy. It is like clock work. I have to constantly check every ingredient for dairy. I was on a diet a few years ago and I never ate chocolate, cheese, dairy, etc and drank Organic Soy milk for protein shakes and smoothies and I never broke out, ever. I woke up every morning and I couldnt believe I never had a blemish. I never linked the two. Fast FWD: I though my body just outgrew the Cystic Acne so, I started consuming dairy products again. Here came the Cysts. Recently I stoped the dairy again and tested a few avenues..Ie, power bars (which some have milk fat, definitly starbucks because of processed milk, Lehigh Valley milk) and here came the Cysts again. In Iraq they have forever milk that can sit outside in the sun for weeks and you can still drink it. Definitly processed. Processed Nacho cheese from Mac n Cheese, Nachos and pretzles from the moveies. Humans arent supposed to eat Dairy anyway because of Hormones, Antibiotics etc. Even my hair became less course, more shiny and less oily. I included the truth about milk in the link below. This will explain a lot for you all. There will always be the war between Soy and Dairy but, I believe this video will steer you away from Dairy all together. I saw comments about beneficial bacteria, Raw milk, Zink, etc. I am very healthy and I take Liquid vitamins and minerals every day to include, Green tea, resveratol, Peak ATP, A Lipaoic Acid, Organic protein shakes with fresh (White Vinegar washed fruit.) You get the point. I even make my own pickled green beans for the beneficial bacteria in my gut. For a year I drank grass Fed Organic raw milk and my family, one friend and myself became EXTREMELY sick from the Milk. It was the most excruciating pain we ever endured. my fiancee had to go to the E.R. and we thought she was going to dye. She was kept for two days and they couldnt stop the pain..Extreme fever, extreme chills over and over, extreme diarria to intense intestinal pain for 8 days straight. I had to stay with her with the same symptoms in the hospital wjile constantly running to the public hospital bathroom. Long story short the PA Dept of Agriculture found campylobacter jejuni in the Raw milk samples from the Organic Farm we purchase from. Over 100 people (REPORTED) have gotten extremely ill. It was all over the news, you can check it yourself. I wont name the Farm because of a lawsuit but, look it up yourself. I was so sick and my immune system was so runned down that after 8 days I got Facial paralysis and finally just got back to work last week after 5 months. I am a Helicopter Pilot and an Airplane pilot in the Military. It affected my vision and it felt like Chuck Norris kicked me in the face all day. Very painful.

In conclusion, sorry for all the words but, please stay away from dairy. There is no safe way to consume it and if anyones body is not experiencing these things then your body is dying in other ways. Our complections/ hair, etc are telling us the danger going on inside our bodies. It is killing you slowly, little girls are having histerectomies, allergies, puberty becoming early or not at all. Look it up!!!! I gotta tell you I will miss Cheese. We had so many memories. Heed my words.

PLEASE WATCH THE LINK BELOW> Its just one of many.

Thanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXCs9-Q_Rb8

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F31d10b54b31428e189d9b771bf7b1d1

on June 18, 2012
at 05:23 PM

Have you thought about homemade kefir? The more that you culture it, the less lactose there is. There are kefir websites and forums, and it is easy to obtain, easy to make, and easy to make into a smoothie. I almost live off of kefir. I use pasteurized milk to make the kefir and increase the value in monetary terms roughly 28 fold. My family loves it.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on June 18, 2012
at 05:43 PM

The lactose is only part of the issue and a small one at that. There's still the DHT.

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Have you tried fermented dairy products, and if so, how do you react to them? From one study I read that fermentation of milk to yogurt cuts IGF-1 content by 75%. But even fermented dairy foods are still insulogenic.

It would be helpful to know what is it in the dairy that you break out from? Usually people break out from dairy because of its hormonal effect or because they have an allergic/sensitivity reaction to it. If it's hormonal you also usually breakout after eating sugar also.

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on June 18, 2012
at 11:43 AM

I've tried goat milk kefir with some success but only in small amounts. If I have too much, I end up breaking out.

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