I have these 3 problems caused by very high sebum production.
I've tried no shampoo method but I get these itchy welt acne lesions at my nape area after about 3-4 weeks of no washing.
I've tried high dose vitamin a combined with eating high amounts of liver, all I got from that was very dry painful eyes.
Does anyone have any recommendations?
The 3 dietary strategies I think may be useful are. Please critique. I will include a link to the places that recommend each diet.
very low carb - no explination needed, your body uses all the oils and the skin won't get as much of it. (sidenote: i feel terrible on this diet and get heart palpitations.) http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-advice-for-acne-sufferers/#axzz1z8AyWATP
starch diet. High carb but low GI load. this, along with 1 is a lot of cooked foods. http://hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=97393&enterthread=y
raw food diet. mostly fruit and raw eggs/avacado's. Eating some fat with fruit to lower the GI load of the meal somewhat.
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on September 07, 2013
at 12:44 AM
High sebum is usually caused by excess DHT acting on the hair glands. DHT is converted from T in the gland itself by an enzyme called 5-alpha reductase, and this conversion has been shown to be overactive in people with acne. There are substances that can block the action of this enzyme and that way reduce sebum production. These include: green tea extract, saw palmetto, zinc and GLA.
Vitamin A, to my knowledge, doesn't play a role in sebum production. It does affect keratin levels in the skin and that way contribute to acne though.
As to diet, anything that keeps your insulin and blood sugar levels under control is going to help. Low-carb diets also help, but I'm not a fan of them because they restrict your life too much.
More details about these, please check here: http://www.acneeinstein.com/oily-skin-remedies/
As to the diets you mentioned:
1) Usually works but hard to stick to and high fat intake causes problems with glucose metabolism so when you eat carbs you can expect your sugars to go crazy.
2) Doesn't sound too bad. I'm not sure why you would restrict fruits. In the link they talk about fructose being converted into fats. While that's true I don't think anyone has shown it to be a problem under normal circumstances.
3) Based on fallacious logic. I know this works for some people, but I almost gave myself diabetes while following this.
on June 25, 2012
at 10:35 PM
Try using bicarbonate of soda as a shampoo then use normal conditioner
Also try putting olive oil on your face at night and leaving it on (rub it in and dab off the excess with a tissue) it won't clog your pores but it will tell your skin to stop producing so much sebum because there is plenty of oil, it also makes your skin look better
Do not go low carb for hairloss, try reading some Danny Roddy
Also, all this strict tinkering with your diet can cause unnecessary stress, try just relaxing a bit if you can and don't worry too much, mentality is an important nutrient
on March 28, 2013
at 08:08 AM
I had some success detoxing with herbs (for facial acne, PMs and hair loss) I took DIM, Vitex, milk thistle, burdock root (and now calcium D glucarate).
My hair loss count lowered quickly and stopped after 2 months, my acne was almost gone after 1 month. It also got rid of milk eczema (dry patches)
Only problem I had was coming out of a ketogenic diet. I never had acne prior to it and started having a bunch of really bad problems when eating vlc. My hair started falling out, I had heart palpitations too, i started having PMS, inflammatory pains, my thyroid and liver went bad. Read my posts if you want to go through some of the advice I received.
on March 28, 2013
at 06:45 AM
Sounds like your scalp, skin and hair would benefit from the healing properties of aloe. It actually contains enzymes that lift scale from your scalp, has healing properties for your skin and hair growth stimulating properties as well. I've successfully used this Aloe Honey "Shampoo" for a year (as needed) and I've been itch and flake free ever since.
No More Dry Scalp Aloe Honey "Shampoo" Recipe
- 1/4 c of homemade aloe gel or store bought like Forever Aloe Vera Gel
- 2 TBS Honey
- Combine all in your mini-food processor or blender. Make as smooth as possible. You don’t want any aloe chunks left in your hair.
- Take straight to the shower and shampoo. Leave on for a few minutes (the longer the better) than rinse out completely with water. That’s it.
Get all the details on why aloe and honey are good for your scalp and helping promote new hair growth by reading the original Aloe Honey "Shampoo" recipe (above) and explains all the "whys" of how it works.
Try dabbing the fresh aloe gel onto your acne in the morning to ease redness, then at night a drop of tea tree oil applied to those same spots will help kill the acne causing bacteria on your skin. Don't worry about putting oil on acne prone skin - it won't cause more acne. You should also consider doing the "oil cleanse method" for your skin care. In 3 days your skin will have improved dramatically and it will help prevent new break outs.
on September 21, 2012
at 12:49 AM
leaving olive oil on your face overnight does not trick your body into thinking it needs/should produce less sebum. No study has shown any method like that to reduce sebum, lots of anecdotal evidence from people say it does, but they never actually check their face oil levels with sebutape or the like, people also say oil pulling cures every single one of their problems they ever had i.e. anecdotal evidence means almost nothing somtimes. It's just rife with confirmation bias.
Excess DHT also does not increase sebum in an adult male, check the studies. If you decrease DHT down to normal levels sebum does not decrease, the normal level for an adult male is already more than enough for the sebum to be at max, but thyroid problems can increase sebum. Animals who have excess oil on their skin and are given thyroid treatment (if thyroid is the problem) have normal sebum levels after that.
on June 26, 2012
at 02:14 AM
Acne and dandruff are probably vitamin A deficiency. Too much vitamin A can also cause the same symptoms as deficiency though, so balance it out. 4-6 ounces of liver a week or 10 days is pretty good.
Dannyroddy.com might be the place to get your hair loss in check. In my opinion a low carb, raw food, or starch diet won't be helpful in your situation.
on June 25, 2012
at 11:03 PM
I also used to have dandruff and the acne lesion itchy godawfulpainful bumps on my scalp/nape and no conventional shampoo, organic shampoo, or no 'poo would work. The only thing that's worked for me at all are J.R. Liggett's shampoo bars, which are basically just old-fashioned soap (coconut oil, olive oil, etc.), with tea tree oil. I wash twice a week or so, and once or twice a month wash with straight white vinegar followed by the shampoo bar. The tea tree oil keeps away the bumps/sores and also helps mildly with dandruff, and the vinegar wash really eliminates the dandruff.
I've tried other shampoo bars from small businesses and Etsy, but only the J.R. ones have ever worked (for me, at least). They're pretty cheap if you just want to try a bar out for a month or two.
on June 25, 2012
at 09:57 PM
My acne, dandruff, and excess sebum production were probably never nearly as bad as yours. However, I'll mention what I found for myself, in case you find it useful.
Going VLC lowered my sebum production tremendously. I couldn't stop touching my face because of how non-greasy it felt!
After reading the Perfect Health Diet, I reintroduced moderate amounts of starches, and my skin remained great.
So for me it was not the carbs in general, but the fruit (I'm assuming fructose) in particular that were leading to excess sebum production. (Perhaps fructose malabsorbtion due to dysbiosis and leaky gut.)
Try dropping fruit and see if that does anything for you.