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After 6 or so months of Paleo I've tried to eat gluten free grains a few times and when I do I get terrible acid reflux - anyone else experience this?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 09, 2012 at 11:47 PM

I don't typically eat grains, but every once in a while I'll try something gluten and dairy free that my girlfriend makes (i.e. gf/df corn bread, gf/df banana bread, quinoa, etc).

The last few times I tried I had horrible acid reflux all day.

I seem to be ok with white rice, at least in sushi anyways.

Anyone else experience this? I NEVER had problems with acid reflux before going paleo so I'm a little confused.

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on September 15, 2012
at 05:11 AM

Corn in smaller amounts doesn't bother me, either. Neither does rice, with the exception of the blood sugar issue. Last time I ate more than a small amount my blood sugar crashed so badly I nearly fell asleep! I had forgotten how much that sucked after nearly 6 months grain free.

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on September 15, 2012
at 05:09 AM

I think I'll stick with grain-free baked goods from now on. But thanks, Shawn!

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on September 10, 2012
at 09:36 PM

Granted refined starches shouldn't be a staple, and switching from eating a sandwich for lunch on wheat bread to crap-filled gluten-free bread will likely not lead to great improvements in health or change course if poor health is already there (which I believe is Dr. Davis' point), but as a treat here and there, should be okey-dokey, no? I suspect Dr. Davis will become more starch agnostic for those who are young, active, and without metabolic syndromes as he mellows with age. But for the specific group of people he treats, his message is right on.

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on September 10, 2012
at 04:48 PM

You could be having a "secondary" reaction to the corn fed meats. A lot of us who feed our dogs Raw/BARF/Prey Model have found that the more sensitive ones cannot eat meats fed either soy or corn. The dogs get rashes, OCD, and all the symptoms they had on kibble. It is quite common and I'd expect it to be more common in humans if they just noticed their bodies a little more.

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on September 10, 2012
at 11:34 AM

I can tolerate the Bob's Red Mill gluten free and dairy free pancake mix very well if you're looking for one to try.

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at 09:57 AM

I used to have acid reflex on a regular basis but since going LCHF Wheat and all grain free late last year I have not had it once! I quote Dr W Davis from Wheat Belly>>> "Remember: We should not replace a problem ingredient--wheat flour--with another set of problem ingredients--gluten-free junk carbohydrate flours like cornstarch, rice starch, tapioca starch, and potato starch. If you do, you will have to accept some measure of resistance to insulin/high blood sugars, growth of visceral fat, hypertension, cataracts, arthritis, heart disease, and cancer. Last time I checked, those were not

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Was that the case for you before paleo or only after?

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on September 09, 2012
at 11:51 PM

Yep...every time. Therefore, I no longer consume grains. My only exception, and I don't suffer for it, is occasionally eating fresh, non-GMO corn-on-the-cob.

I ALWAYS had heartburn pre-Paleo and haven't needed antacids since going Paleo and cutting out cheats.

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on September 10, 2012
at 03:49 AM

I have the same thing. I have to avoid grains entirely.

The one thing that helps is taking a little apple cider vinegar or some betaine HCL to raise your stomach acid levels (sounds counter intuitive but most people with acid reflux have too little stomach acid)

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on September 10, 2012
at 03:47 AM

I'm having the same problem but not with grains. It seems to be happening when I eat ground beef that isn't grass fed. There are probably other triggers, but I haven't figured them all out yet. It's really frustrating.

I actually don't have any reaction at all to corn products, but I am Mexican-American. Maybe that has something to do with it? I grew up on corn products, as did my parents. Rice, on the other hand, tends to make my blood sugar spike pretty severely.

Medium avatar

(4878)

on September 10, 2012
at 04:48 PM

You could be having a "secondary" reaction to the corn fed meats. A lot of us who feed our dogs Raw/BARF/Prey Model have found that the more sensitive ones cannot eat meats fed either soy or corn. The dogs get rashes, OCD, and all the symptoms they had on kibble. It is quite common and I'd expect it to be more common in humans if they just noticed their bodies a little more.

90bcfafd2ef73fea5398c483c593349e

(872)

on September 15, 2012
at 05:11 AM

Corn in smaller amounts doesn't bother me, either. Neither does rice, with the exception of the blood sugar issue. Last time I ate more than a small amount my blood sugar crashed so badly I nearly fell asleep! I had forgotten how much that sucked after nearly 6 months grain free.

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90bcfafd2ef73fea5398c483c593349e

on September 10, 2012
at 03:10 AM

No acid reflux here, but the gluten-free pancakes I succumbed to this morning have made my stomach gurgle all afternoon and evening. After 5 months paleo, this was my first real grain cheat. Never again! Ugh...

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

(1017)

on September 10, 2012
at 11:34 AM

I can tolerate the Bob's Red Mill gluten free and dairy free pancake mix very well if you're looking for one to try.

90bcfafd2ef73fea5398c483c593349e

(872)

on September 15, 2012
at 05:09 AM

I think I'll stick with grain-free baked goods from now on. But thanks, Shawn!

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 10, 2012
at 04:42 AM

I've had that happen with some gluten-free baked goods, and not with others. I haven't figured out exactly why, but I have some theories.

Most of the recipes are made with massive quantities of super-refined starches, and I suspect enough tapioca, rice, or corn starch to constitute an actual loaf of bread, or other baked good could be difficult to digest and sticks around too long in the stomach starting the fermentation process before moving further down, or possibly feed bacteria and aggravate SIBO.

I seem to be having ridiculously good luck with a loaf of gluten-free apple raisin bread from Great Harvest, even had a slice as a midnight snack, and didn't get heartburn lying down almost immediately afterwards. It is mostly rice flour and potato starch, neither food I seem to have negative reactions to in normal recipes, so it might be worth investigating which starches are the building blocks of those baked goods.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on September 10, 2012
at 09:36 PM

Granted refined starches shouldn't be a staple, and switching from eating a sandwich for lunch on wheat bread to crap-filled gluten-free bread will likely not lead to great improvements in health or change course if poor health is already there (which I believe is Dr. Davis' point), but as a treat here and there, should be okey-dokey, no? I suspect Dr. Davis will become more starch agnostic for those who are young, active, and without metabolic syndromes as he mellows with age. But for the specific group of people he treats, his message is right on.

3ed47bb3513ed0b4849e6b492422cadf

(90)

on September 10, 2012
at 09:57 AM

I used to have acid reflex on a regular basis but since going LCHF Wheat and all grain free late last year I have not had it once! I quote Dr W Davis from Wheat Belly>>> "Remember: We should not replace a problem ingredient--wheat flour--with another set of problem ingredients--gluten-free junk carbohydrate flours like cornstarch, rice starch, tapioca starch, and potato starch. If you do, you will have to accept some measure of resistance to insulin/high blood sugars, growth of visceral fat, hypertension, cataracts, arthritis, heart disease, and cancer. Last time I checked, those were not

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on September 10, 2012
at 03:27 AM

Try buying organic grains in bulk and sprouting and fermenting them. I eat quite a bit of gluten free grains with no problems.

If you don't like the sour taste of fermented grains add a half tsp of baking soda to neutralize it.

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on September 10, 2012
at 01:15 AM

Same here- no reflux pre-Paleo. I attribute it to having a true sensitivity and my body was too metabolically deranged before to register.

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on September 10, 2012
at 01:10 AM

I have the same thing lately. I've never had heart burn before.

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on September 10, 2012
at 01:07 AM

Anything grains is bad new, rice in sushi seems ok but I attribute that to the small quantity and highly refined nature.

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on September 10, 2012
at 12:18 AM

Yes. I too am ok with a little rice, but everything else causes serious reflux.

91882203467f64f68f25f58f1caeee68

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on September 10, 2012
at 12:37 AM

Was that the case for you before paleo or only after?

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on September 10, 2012
at 09:07 PM

For me, it's sugars, and even gluten-free grains break down into sugars eventually.

You may have had acid reflux before, but you may not have been as aware of it as there were plenty of other things going on in your body that may have distracted you.

I had nearly constant and significant skeletal pain that didn't register until it was GONE. Now, when it comes back (when I cheat and have some grains) I notice it 100% more than before, even though it's not as bad on the pain scale. Because it's a stark contrast to the absence of pain.

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