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This diet makes it to easy to stay lean?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM

So anyone else experiencing it's very easy to maintain a set of 6-pack abs?I feel like I can eat all I want of paleo food and stay lean as long as it's real whole foods and I don't eat a crapload of carbs? I also have much less of an appetite eating this way.

Dc6407193ba441d1438f6f0c06af872b

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on May 31, 2012
at 03:15 AM

I wonder if I bite the bullet and do the lean gains protocol what will happen. One day I'll be motivated to try. Maybe I'd get the six-pack, but maybe not. My point is that some people are at 10% body fat without trying, and others have to be near perfect to be at 15%, and I have no doubt there are others who are doing everything right and will always be chunky. That's the genetic lottery. It's better for any individual to be good than bad, but not all people will get the same results.

1096aa84d006fe967128ffbd37e8070e

(1002)

on May 30, 2012
at 01:49 PM

hey Michael, have you seen this http://www.leangains.com/? A lot of folks here have tried this route.....looks like he knows something about finding that 6 pack.

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on May 30, 2012
at 05:17 AM

You could have used the tag "insane definition" to really get Foreverwrongs attention. lol

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 30, 2012
at 05:16 AM

You could have used the tag "insane definition" ;)

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

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on May 30, 2012
at 04:11 AM

Sorry to hear that. I wouldn't worry on 1500 cals though. If you have energy, feel good and have a good-wellbeing I wouldn't worry about your cals being on the lower side. If you are experiencing a lot of hunger, low-energy, fatigue I would just up the calories despite a bit of weight gain. Yes, you can gain some weight eating this way. But you won't become OBESE.

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

(1631)

on May 30, 2012
at 04:07 AM

I really don't like the idea of counting calories. As long as your eating REAL whole unrefined foods from the animal and plant kingdom why would you count? I agree that if trying to add considerable mass you would need to count calories in order to make sure your in calorie surplus most of the time though.

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

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on May 30, 2012
at 04:02 AM

haha yea.. I didn't really know what else to put.

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

(1631)

on May 30, 2012
at 04:02 AM

They say it's easier to build muscle if you have a shorter build.

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

(1631)

on May 30, 2012
at 03:59 AM

Yes I am genetically gifted. My mother and father are both mesomorphs. My mom eats like me so she's healthy. even in her SAD days she muscular. Huge calves, slim waist. My dad is muscular but flabby. He needs to get more sleep and hit the gym more. Eat better also.

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on May 30, 2012
at 03:59 AM

When you've got abs, you only need a single tag, baby.

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on May 30, 2012
at 03:26 AM

Huh? There's a pretty wide range of calorie consumption that people lean out on—I lean out on 3500/day, and I know people who do it on less than half that. It seems like he's got everything dialed in (eating whole foods to satiety), which is a lot more applicable than a specific number of calories.

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on May 29, 2012
at 10:07 PM

LOl. single tag- "abs"

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on May 29, 2012
at 08:24 PM

I was once at 10% body fat and I didn't see my abs. There's certainly a genetic component to how lean one has to be to see their abs. I'll be happy at 12% even if I never get to see my abs!

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on May 29, 2012
at 07:55 PM

I thought I was going to open this up and see the details of a fad diet. Wait a second...

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

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on May 29, 2012
at 07:43 PM

Awesome, the longer I stay on this lifestyle the more benefits I experience.

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

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on May 29, 2012
at 07:41 PM

Exactly.Simplest way to put it. I find as long as You keep yourself active, get proper sleep and engage in functional fitness exercises you'll be A.Ok. I personally love doing push-ups,pull-ups dips, swimming and sprints. I prefer more bodyweight type exercises over heavy weights. I still think deadlifts and squats are important though.

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C6e32ff9978fe287aa8c1c6be52d9524

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on May 29, 2012
at 07:40 PM

Absolutely. Granted, everyone is unique, but it's doing me well. I maintain a very lean body with ease. It's been amazing, that's for sure. I never count calories.. eat plentiful amounts of animal fats, proteins, fiber, lots of berries, and roots/tubers on exercise days. And I agree on the appetite. I can go 5-6 hours without eating now. I feel more productive than ever that I'm not hungry.

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

(1631)

on May 29, 2012
at 07:43 PM

Awesome, the longer I stay on this lifestyle the more benefits I experience.

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35b2cb4d450e5288895c255dfdfff35d

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on May 29, 2012
at 07:31 PM

I'll let you know when I get there. What I've heard is that you need to cut calories to get lean but then don't need to pay attention to calories once you're lean as long as you don't overdo the carbs, which seems to be your experience.

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

(1631)

on May 29, 2012
at 07:41 PM

Exactly.Simplest way to put it. I find as long as You keep yourself active, get proper sleep and engage in functional fitness exercises you'll be A.Ok. I personally love doing push-ups,pull-ups dips, swimming and sprints. I prefer more bodyweight type exercises over heavy weights. I still think deadlifts and squats are important though.

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on May 30, 2012
at 04:05 AM

I've only gained weight on paleo. :( I'm so sad hearing people who lean out on this way of eating!! I mean I guess I should be happy for them!! lol. But sad for me I guess. The only way I've lost weight was to count calories, so I think I may be doing that again... If I have more than 1500 cals a day, I gain. My body is so messed right now. O_O

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

(1631)

on May 30, 2012
at 04:11 AM

Sorry to hear that. I wouldn't worry on 1500 cals though. If you have energy, feel good and have a good-wellbeing I wouldn't worry about your cals being on the lower side. If you are experiencing a lot of hunger, low-energy, fatigue I would just up the calories despite a bit of weight gain. Yes, you can gain some weight eating this way. But you won't become OBESE.

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1bbcd2122d9c75b07440f22ef57d6448

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on May 30, 2012
at 03:18 AM

I'm still working on the 6-pack, even at 10% bf, but I find I can eat (and overeat) on paleo and still stay fairly lean. I usually end up on the high-carb end due to my training, but even then I stay pretty lean almost effortlessly. Only when I go on a SAD binge do I ever really seem to gain any fat.

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on May 30, 2012
at 05:10 AM

Well, I've always had a nearly fatless belly (and got a 'sixpack' as soon as I started working out to speak of, when I was vegetarian and high carb), it's mostly a genetic thing. Either you have it (or had it, in which case you can probably get back there) or you don't.

If you do, and you eat fairly strictly and maintain muscle mass, you can probably have it forever.

I eat 3000 calories+ most days, plenty of carbs, and I currently weigh 107 lbs and have about 18% bodyfat. Defined muscles are easy (everywhere but my butt), however it's proven impossible for me to bulk significantly, and strength gain in my upper body is pathetically slow and arduous.

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on May 30, 2012
at 03:22 AM

to be more relevant, you all should state your calories/day.

1bbcd2122d9c75b07440f22ef57d6448

(2934)

on May 30, 2012
at 03:26 AM

Huh? There's a pretty wide range of calorie consumption that people lean out on—I lean out on 3500/day, and I know people who do it on less than half that. It seems like he's got everything dialed in (eating whole foods to satiety), which is a lot more applicable than a specific number of calories.

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

(1631)

on May 30, 2012
at 04:07 AM

I really don't like the idea of counting calories. As long as your eating REAL whole unrefined foods from the animal and plant kingdom why would you count? I agree that if trying to add considerable mass you would need to count calories in order to make sure your in calorie surplus most of the time though.

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Dc6407193ba441d1438f6f0c06af872b

on May 29, 2012
at 08:17 PM

You are genetically gifted. Check out photos of hunter-gatherers: a few are ripped but there are all kinds of body types (as you would expect). None of them are obese, but not everybody is underwear-model thin. Besides, a lot of us are older and mistreated ourselves for a long time. For a while I thought a six-pack might be in my future. Right now, though, I'm pretty healthy, and quite happy with my two-pack. :-) Maybe in a few years I'll figure out the secret to leaning out a bit more, but I've been doing this for a while, and where I am may be as good as it's going to get for me. If so, so be it. It's a hell of a lot better than anything else I've tried.

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

(1631)

on May 30, 2012
at 03:59 AM

Yes I am genetically gifted. My mother and father are both mesomorphs. My mom eats like me so she's healthy. even in her SAD days she muscular. Huge calves, slim waist. My dad is muscular but flabby. He needs to get more sleep and hit the gym more. Eat better also.

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

(1631)

on May 30, 2012
at 04:02 AM

They say it's easier to build muscle if you have a shorter build.

Dc6407193ba441d1438f6f0c06af872b

(4400)

on May 31, 2012
at 03:15 AM

I wonder if I bite the bullet and do the lean gains protocol what will happen. One day I'll be motivated to try. Maybe I'd get the six-pack, but maybe not. My point is that some people are at 10% body fat without trying, and others have to be near perfect to be at 15%, and I have no doubt there are others who are doing everything right and will always be chunky. That's the genetic lottery. It's better for any individual to be good than bad, but not all people will get the same results.

35b2cb4d450e5288895c255dfdfff35d

(5828)

on May 29, 2012
at 08:24 PM

I was once at 10% body fat and I didn't see my abs. There's certainly a genetic component to how lean one has to be to see their abs. I'll be happy at 12% even if I never get to see my abs!

1096aa84d006fe967128ffbd37e8070e

(1002)

on May 30, 2012
at 01:49 PM

hey Michael, have you seen this http://www.leangains.com/? A lot of folks here have tried this route.....looks like he knows something about finding that 6 pack.

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