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180Degree Health?

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Created December 09, 2011 at 3:42 AM

Has anyone followed this plan? Can you describe it and your level of success with it? From what I can gather from the blog, it's somewhat paleo, but he is also very, very carb friendly (not that there's anything wrong with that). comments?

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on December 09, 2011
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I've always eaten dairy, milk in my coffee/tea, I eat cheese (raw sometimes) and use butter and cream. I don't drink milk by itself though. Starches are still by carbohydrate source but I do eat fruit sometimes; I'm certainly not into gulping down coke 6 times a day. :-)

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on December 09, 2011
at 03:44 PM

It's not still the "High Everything Diet" (HED)? Cause that's what I ate for 40 years that left me tired, fat and diabetic.

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on December 09, 2011
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It seems to me that his "plan" changes every few months.

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on December 09, 2011
at 12:54 PM

what about dairy? Do you eat it? What type of carbohydrates? More fruits than starches?

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on December 09, 2011
at 12:53 PM

+1 for "leave the leaves to the gorillas"

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D12142c8cafb16d9af10b3362cb8fb62

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on December 09, 2011
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Matt Stone doesn't consider himself paleo just as Kurt Harris doesn't, I'm guessing (don't want to put words in anyone's mouth) to avoid ridiculous notions of not eating potatoes or butter because they didn't exist 20,000 years ago etc Or following Cordain and thinking the only food available was lean muscle meat, kale and canola oil...

A lot of 180degreehealth is based on Ray Peat's work (much about optimising the thyroid). I'll be laying off the coke 6 times a day but I incorporate most of Ray's principles such as:

Don't eat too much muscle meat, Don't be VLC, Leave the leaves to the gorillas, Keep PUFA to a minimum, Eat protein and carbohydrate together.

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on December 09, 2011
at 06:30 PM

I've always eaten dairy, milk in my coffee/tea, I eat cheese (raw sometimes) and use butter and cream. I don't drink milk by itself though. Starches are still by carbohydrate source but I do eat fruit sometimes; I'm certainly not into gulping down coke 6 times a day. :-)

35a8b223ae5d863f17a8c9e3a8eed5eb

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on December 09, 2011
at 12:53 PM

+1 for "leave the leaves to the gorillas"

35a8b223ae5d863f17a8c9e3a8eed5eb

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on December 09, 2011
at 12:54 PM

what about dairy? Do you eat it? What type of carbohydrates? More fruits than starches?

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on December 09, 2011
at 06:54 AM

If you can "follow" this plan, you can probably also "follow" the following train(s) of thought:

http://youtu.be/f9jRDHGabp8

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on December 09, 2011
at 12:56 PM

Matt stones plan of unrefined starches and fat isn't that great in my experience, it didn't raise my temp or give me the energy I would expect(starches and butter get very boring as well). Ray peat has much better info and better diet guidelines imo. I've broken through a weight gain plateau with rays guidelines and my body temp is optimal pretty consistently.

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