I am hoping someone with knowledge about diabetes or other metabolic dysfunctions can shed some insight on this:
I have occasionally noticed my urine smelling very sweet, only in maybe the past month. I didn't think anything of it. Last night I over ate on chocolate, today my urine smells super sweet. So, I decide maybe I should google this and see if there's something I need to know about. Lo and behold, this appears to be a sign of diabetes.
Background info: Have been eating paleo/primal for one year. I eat fatty meat, lean meat and every thing in between, dairy, eggs and potatoes or sweet potatoes almost every day. I'll eat a little dark chocolate and honey occasionally. 5'3 106 lbs. Before paleo I got tired/crabby/murderous if I didn't eat every three hours. I ate tons of carbs and sugar. Low blood pressure and easily got lightheaded when standing up.
Is it possible to exhibit symptoms of diabetes, like glucose showing up in urine, without actually having diabetes?
When you eat very little sugar, does it consequently increase your sensitivity to sugar which can also manifest as diabetes symptoms?
I know I need to go to the doctor if this continues, but financially it's impossible right now. In the meantime any insight is much appreciated. I know almost nothing about diabetes, I never thought it was something I needed to worry about. Thanks.
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If you are eating paleo with limited carbs and are feeling fine...which means you are not spiking your blood glucose and thus not causing your pancreas to secret insulin to control a spike in blood sugar...you should be fine. Normal fasting blood sugar is 95-100. Just know that the only way to determine a diabetic situation is to measure your 12 hr fasting blood sugar. You can do that with a glucose meter at home. Walmart, Walgreens has them for less than $20. The strips are about 50 cents each for a reading.
There are a lot of type II diabetics that have been able to control their blood sugar with the paleo diet...all without any meds.
Periodically my urine smells "sweet" and I have no idea why. It seems to vary with the few veggies I eat.
Paleo eaters tend not to drink enough water because they eat to satiety and then forget to drink water. A good rule of thumb is drink your weight in ounces of water divided by two. For you at 106 thats a little over 50 oz. I tend to go over by 25% in my water consumption from the rule of thumb.
My pee smelled sweat when I was diagnosed. Blood sugar was a 700. Your before stats would indicate yes but your after stats would indicate no. Although its interesting that you crave chocolate and honey almost daily. Sometimes trying to self dianose online isn't the best thing. I was sick years ago and after going to web md I was convinced it was something serious. I avoided the doc for monthes. After going for some blood work, it turned out to be nothing much and easily cured. My advice is GO GET CHECKED OUT.
Smell your urine, drink it , taste it...shoot it thru a water gun. BUT test your BS fasting in the morning and more importantly test 1 hour, 2 hour 3 hour afer meals. Meters are cheap and you can buy A1c meters now too. Normal fasting is 83 (according to Dr. Bernstein) and it should not budge above the 120-130 mark after meals. It would be interesting to see the results when you smell sweet and when you don't. Please post here the results. You can stop Diabetes in its tracks if you get a handle on testing and Paleo/low carb it now. If you still smell sweet at normal BS, lets analyze your urine and come up with a new perfume. Ambergris (Ambra grisea, Ambre gris, ambergrease, or grey amber) is a solid, waxy, flammable substance of a dull gray or blackish color produced in the digestive system of and regurgitated by sperm whales. It is used as a fixative in perfumes. We may have a new Chanel here!
I have type II diabetes and have never had sweet smelling urine. As well as buying a glucose monitor, glucostix are very cheap & measure any glucose which "spills" over into the urine.
In the UK it's less than ??5.00 for a tub.
Historically, diabetes used to be diagnosed by tasting urine (sweet urine), so I can understand your concern.
It's true that certain foods can make urine smell different(asparagus!!!).
I'm a type II, so I have always read up on any article concerning this "disease". I recall reading somewhere on the net that in olden days one of the actual tests, if not the main test, was to actually taste the urine, and as you say, if it tasted sweet, this was a definite sign of having too much glucose in the blood.
Buy a blood glucose monitor from your local drug store and check and record your numbers for a few days. It is the only way to know. The wonderful Dr. Bernstein recommends only the Aviva Accu Chek.
Sugar in the urine is one sign of diabeties. But it is not a diagnosis by itself. And the smell of sweetness only may or may not be directly related to actual sugar in the urine. To really know if you have diabetes, you need to know what is happening with the sugar levels in your blood. A lot of things can effect urine including what kinds of foods you eat, how you digest them, etc. It could have nothing to do with diabetes. YOu just don't have enough info to make much of a determination either way.
<< agreed w/ Cliff. Low carb is a great way to induce a whole host of health and hormonal problems eventually. Especially if you're extreme about it, and go VLC. Add running/weight training to that, and disaster is basically imminent.
(Source: This happened to me, I'm fixing it, LC Paleo could be a good temporary reset. Not a perm solution.)
Low carb creates insulin sensitivity idiot the opposite of insulin resistance.
Isn't diabetes caused by excess carbohydrates? There are qualified scientists, who say it is. Just Google 'carbohydrates' & 'diabetes', there are lots who believe this.
Another thing, in diabetes, so much attention has been given to the 'insulin' factor, that the other factor 'glucagon' has been ignored. I've read in a medical text that 'an overproduction of glucagon' can be a symptom or cause of diabetes juswt as a deficiency of 'insulin' is.
Why is there such a lack of research and an under-reporting on glucagon anyway ?
I looked this up tonight because my urine is smelling very sweet. I have been eating fennel seeds for gas as suggested by Dr. Oz. I guess that could be why. Thank you for that post about fennel seeds.
yes my boy friend is diabetic type 1 and his urine was sweet
Fennel seeds will give your urine a sweet, almost syrupy smell. Had Indian recently?
I just stumbled across this question online while googling for information. I just went pee and my urine smelled sweet... like Kelogg's Smacks used to do to me. Im not sure what would cause it. If it doesn't go away I'm gunna get a glucose meter and test away.
Edited to add: I just found this: Linky TL;DR Person has 85-105 BS levels, but sweet smelling urine. Urologist says excess ketone bodies can cause sweet smelling urine. Is it possible that this is being caused by ketosis? I've been eating fairly low carb recently (haven't been tracking it though.) Had some frozen yogurt with the wife last night, which I'd expect to kill any ketosis that I may have been under though. Any thoughts?
I get "sweet pee" sometimes too. I'll tell you one thing though, asparagus really magnifies the smell.
I get the "sweet pee" smell too, occasionally. I just figured I was in ketosis.
This seems highly unlikely, given the information you have provided. Blood glucose testing devices are cheap though if you want to go that route.
My husband is diabetic but I've never noticed his urine smelling sweet. I honestly never thought about it, my urine sometimes smells strong but that's usually like when I first wake up or if I haven't been drinking enough water. Does diabetes run in your family? I seriously believe that to be the strongest marker for people. My husband has it on both sides of his family. Personally, I've got no diabetes in my family and while I'm paleo now I've put away tons of sugar & processed carbs over the years. I am over weight but losing it and my blood glucose is just fine. I have my husband check it for me periodically just to make sure. I think Dale is on to something though, it may have to do with what you've eaten too.
I'm not very versed in diabetes, but it doesn't look like you would be a strong candidate. Could it be something else? This will probably sound crazy, but when I eat broccoli my urine smells like cheerios in milk the next day.
So you eat all kinds of meat and fatty meat, dairy, eggs, chocolate, honey and potatoes and yams? NO fiber? No vegetables or fruit or grains?
I wouldnt be worried about how your pee smells I would worry about your arteries clogging. BUt I am not a doctor, I just play one On The Internet.